Re: Enigma

2013-04-09 Thread Ricard Pradell
I netejant caché, galetes, etc... dels navegadors? alguna vegada m'ha funcionat així, com a la nova web del bbva per exemple. El 9 d’abril de 2013 1.13, Iker Bilbao iker.bil...@gmail.com ha escrit: ** Vaja, em passa algo semblant quan el Proxy-web no em funciona. Revisa la configuració de

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread honeyshell
prouver que linux est aussi user friendly maintenant que windows chacun sa version de user friendly mais linuxmint représente à mon sens ce qu'il y a de plus proche de cette notion. Par contre il utilise flash et tous les autres truc pas libre! Tu peux t'en inspirer pour construire ta propre

Re: [HS] cryptage de données sur dossier distant

2013-04-09 Thread daniel huhardeaux
Le 08/04/2013 22:04, Cyrille a écrit : Bonjour, Dans le cadre professionnel j'ai un dossier Dropbox que je partage entre mon domicile (linux debian) et lieu de travail (1 xp, je n'ai pas le choix et aussi qq postes debian). Je voudrais sécuriser ce dossier en cryptant son contenu si possible,

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread admini
Le 09/04/2013 00:30, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : admini a écrit : ben alors si un windowsien me dit: pourquoi windows détecte et monte les interface avec des requettes dhcp envoyées, si l'interface est paramétrée pour, Parce que windows est fait comme ça. exact. si IBM était aussi bon que Bill

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread admini
Le 09/04/2013 08:51, honeyshell a écrit : prouver que linux est aussi user friendly maintenant que windows chacun sa version de user friendly mais linuxmint représente à mon sens ce qu'il y a de plus proche de cette notion. Par contre il utilise flash et tous les autres truc pas libre! Tu

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le mardi 09 avril 2013 à 10:39, admini a écrit : mais c'est clairement de la production. un monde où debian est auss très présent. mais puisqu'il propose le bureau graphique à l'installation, pourquoi ne pas tout paquager pour que tout marche, comme c'est le cas avec, PCBSD par exemple ? Il

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread Manu Baylac
Bonjour, Le 09/04/2013 10:25, admini a écrit : le jour où mes amis me disent avoir installé un debian sans moi, et tout marche à merveille ... j'en serai vraiment ravi. Je dirais, pour faire rapide, que ce n'est pas possible, du moins pour un utilisateur de base qui n'a pas de connaissances

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread Manu Baylac
Le 09/04/2013 16:20, Manu Baylac a écrit : Et je rajouterai que que vu la politique Debian, un utilisateur final (client) utilise testing, sinon il râlera car ses logiciels ont 3 ans. Testing... officiellement pas stable... donc intervention sans doute d'un admin... Le serpent se mort la

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread Louis Wiart
Bonjour, Le jour où mes amis me disent avoir installé un debian sans moi, et tout marche à merveille ... j'en serai vraiment ravi. J'ajoute ma touche: pour moi un end user n'est pas capable d'installer un OS. C'est peut être un cas extrême, mais mes parents arrivent à utiliser l'outil

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread stephane . gargoly
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Dans son message du 09/04/13 à 17:41, Louis a écrit : J'ajoute ma touche: pour moi un end user n'est pas capable d'installer un OS. C'est peut être un cas extrême, mais mes parents arrivent à utiliser l'outil informatique, mais de

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread Manu Baylac
Le 09/04/2013 21:12, stephane.garg...@laposte.net a écrit : De plus, quelque soit au tout début de ma conversion à Linux ou aujourd'hui (voire demain), quelque soit avant ou après l'installation d'un système GNU/Linux, je consulte toujours la documentation (qu'elle soit spécifique à la

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:12:06PM +0200, stephane.garg...@laposte.net wrote: C'est vrai que j'aurais du mal à recommander Debian à des informaticiens dont leurs compétences se limitent à savoir comment : 1. allumer l'unité centrale, l'écran voire l'imprimante, 2. surfer sur le Web ou

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 22:03:00 +0200 Yves Rutschle debian.anti-s...@rutschle.net wrote: Bah, ce genre d'utilisateur n'installe de toute façon pas de logiciel tout seul (et c'est une mauvaise idée qu'il puisse le faire, c'est sans doute la raison de la bio-dégradation qui arrive souvent à

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread Manu Baylac
Le 09/04/2013 22:46, Bzzz a écrit : Je plussois, plusieurs de mes connaissances sont sous Debian et je me connecte rélugièrement pour faire les MàJ par SSH (quoique pour le prochain ça deviendra chiant, étant donné que dyndns n'est plus gratuit et que mes 5 possibilités sont épuisées).

Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time

2013-04-09 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:36:22 +0200 Manu Baylac m...@ldd.fr wrote: cela signifie qu'une install de debian requière (encore) un vrai admin linux debian (car sous ubuntu ou même bsd, j'ai pas ce genre de soucis). là vraiment, c'est honteux quoi. je suis fâché. Y'a de quoi remettre les points

Re: la shell de gnome se cogela

2013-04-09 Thread J. OCTAVIO Avalos
Hola, A mi también me sucede en ocasiones, cuando tengo abierto Chrome u Opera. Tengo cargado el driver privativo de ATI - AMD, para una tarjeta AMD Radeon 6600M and 6700M Series. Un saludo -- Octavio Ávalos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Duda con actualizaciones de Iceweasel / Icedove

2013-04-09 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 08 Apr 2013 22:37:19 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 08/04/13 22:20, Camaleón escribió: (...) Si instalas una versión nueva, mejor inicia firefox con un perfil vacío, por ejemplo, ejecutándolo como usuario root (gksu firefox) que seguramente no tenga ningún perfil creado para

Re: [OT] Impresora multifunción WI-FI

2013-04-09 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 08 Apr 2013 21:34:43 -0300, Ariel Martín Bellio escribió: ¿Alguien sabe de impresoras? Psé... Quiero/necesito comprar una Impresora multifunción WI-FI que sea compatible con GNU/Linux. ¿Que me recomiendan? HP, sin dudarlo. Busca un modelo que te guste y pasa por la página de

Re: la shell de gnome se cogela

2013-04-09 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 08 Apr 2013 20:50:42 -0500, Carlos Romero escribió: (ese html...) cordial saludo, por medio del presente e-mail me dirijo a ustedes con el fin de informarles sobre un fallo, no he podido determinar el momento preciso en que esto ocurre ni que lo causa. esto se da en cualquier

Re: [OT] Cierra The Linux Game Tome

2013-04-09 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 01:08:23 +0200, Pedro Gras escribió: aunque estaba muy descuidado y arrasado por el spam , cierra uno de los sitios míticos de Linux, The Linux Game Tome http://happypenguin.org , la referencia durante unos cuantos años para conseguir información sobre juegos para nuestro

Monitorizar y cargar una determinada página web con nagios

2013-04-09 Thread maykel
Hola muy buenas, he instalado nagios sobre debian y tengo una pequeña duda en el binario de plugin check_http. Me funciona bien y demás, el tema es que me gustaría que no sólo comprobará si está abierto el puerto, ni que existe una determinada página, sino que la cargue... check_http -H

Re: Monitorizar y cargar una determinada página web con nagios

2013-04-09 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 18:21:27 +0200, maykel escribió: Hola muy buenas, he instalado nagios sobre debian y tengo una pequeña duda en el binario de plugin check_http. Me funciona bien y demás, el tema es que me gustaría que no sólo comprobará si está abierto el puerto, ni que existe una

Re: la shell de gnome se cogela

2013-04-09 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 09/04/13 09:17, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Hola, A mi también me sucede en ocasiones, cuando tengo abierto Chrome u Opera. Tengo cargado el driver privativo de ATI - AMD, para una tarjeta AMD Radeon 6600M and 6700M Series. Un saludo -- Octavio Ávalos Hola. Yo tengo una ATI Radeon

Re: Duda con actualizaciones de Iceweasel / Icedove

2013-04-09 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 09/04/13 15:20, Camaleón escribió: Pero ¿has probado a desactivar lo que te comentaba? Aunqeue sa opción creo que sólo está disponible para el navegador, no en el cliente de correo. De momento no he tocado nada. Ahora mismo que acabo de encender el portátil (y por lo tanto está

Re: Monitorizar y cargar una determinada página web con nagios

2013-04-09 Thread Maykel Franco Hernandez
El abr 9, 2013 6:42 p.m., Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 18:21:27 +0200, maykel escribió: Hola muy buenas, he instalado nagios sobre debian y tengo una pequeña duda en el binario de plugin check_http. Me funciona bien y demás, el tema es que me gustaría que no

Re: Duda con actualizaciones de Iceweasel / Icedove

2013-04-09 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:18:43 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 09/04/13 15:20, Camaleón escribió: Pero ¿has probado a desactivar lo que te comentaba? Aunqeue sa opción creo que sólo está disponible para el navegador, no en el cliente de correo. De momento no he tocado nada. Ahora mismo que

Rendimiento batería: (Antes era: Duda con actualizaciones de Iceweasel / Icedove)

2013-04-09 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 09/04/13 19:50, Camaleón escribió: El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:18:43 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: VM. Y otra cosa que he notado, es que la batería me dura bastante menos. Se supone que es (o era porque ya tiene casi 2 años) de 4 horas. Pues bien: - Con Windows me viene a durar sobre 2 horas

Re: Rendimiento batería: (Antes era: Duda con actualizaciones de Iceweasel / Icedove)

2013-04-09 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:37:31 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: (gracias por cambiar el asunto, se me pasó) El 09/04/13 19:50, Camaleón escribió: El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:18:43 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: (...) - Con Windows me viene a durar sobre 2 horas y media (aprox) - Con Linux si me dura

Re: [OT] Impresora multifunción WI-FI

2013-04-09 Thread Ariel Martín Bellio
El 09/04/2013 10:25 a.m., Camaleón escribió: El Mon, 08 Apr 2013 21:34:43 -0300, Ariel Martín Bellio escribió: ¿Alguien sabe de impresoras? Psé... Quiero/necesito comprar una Impresora multifunción WI-FI que sea compatible con GNU/Linux. ¿Que me recomiendan? HP, sin dudarlo. Busca un

Re: Aventuras no IPTables

2013-04-09 Thread Tiago Viana
Olá pelo o que eu entendi nessa estória de trocar o ip na interface, essas suas duas redes estão no mesmo seguimento L2, sendo assim você já esta errando na sua topologia se a sua intenção é implementar alguma segurança nesse seu ambiente. Então explica melhor como é o seu ambiente ai e suas

Re: Fixing a half-configured package

2013-04-09 Thread sirquijote
Hello sirquijote Excerpt from sirquij...@lavabit.com: -- snip -- The usercommands script is just a simple one-liner that I inserted to turn off my laptop's screen on boot, just before login: CODE #! /bin/sh # /etc/init.d/usercommands # # Turn off the display on boot vbetool

Re: Migrate from Icedove to Thunderbird.

2013-04-09 Thread Johan Scheepers
On 09/04/2013 06:43, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: Dear list - How do I migrate my 1] email 2] filters 3] mailboxes 4] address book from Icedove to Thunderbird? Thanks Ethan Good day, Here is a script that I use to migrate from debian to any other OS. But modify it to suit your

Re: Migrate from Icedove to Thunderbird.

2013-04-09 Thread Jose Manuel Pérez
El 09/04/13 06:43, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD escribió: Dear list - How do I migrate my 1] email 2] filters 3] mailboxes 4] address book from Icedove to Thunderbird? If you are migrating in Linux, just copy .icedove directory to .thunderbird and it should work (mail, address book, calendar,

Re: Modifying Iceweasel Start Parameters

2013-04-09 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 08:32:53PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: Dear List - I am trying to start Iceweasel with a specific program. The following sort of works from the command line, iceweasel -No-Remote localhost/choice.php -width $1280 -height $1024 DISCLAIMER: I'm using the

Re: start-stop-daemon on an inotify script

2013-04-09 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi Bob, thanks a lot for stepping in and all your comments on the script and its usage. I did not want to have too much attention on my inotify script, so I stripped it down to something simpler, that still is doing something useful. It seems I failed in the simplification... Bob Proulx

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 07:24, Joel Roth a écrit : Sounds like you've got a Big Picture(tm) vision to create! Yes, I know, but modern softwares globally tends to integrate features they should not, and if no-one does a software with clear objectives to restrict this problem, it will never change. Some

Re: Migrate from Icedove to Thunderbird.

2013-04-09 Thread Hristo Topalov
And the same is for windows (if you do the mistake to use it) On 04/09/2013 10:17 AM, Jose Manuel Pérez wrote: If you are migrating in Linux, just copy .icedove directory to .thunderbird and it should work (mail, address book, calendar, ect.). I've done it from thunderbird to icedove and

Re: Fixing a half-configured package

2013-04-09 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Excerpt from sirquij...@lavabit.com: -- snip -- Setting up nfs-kernel-server (1:1.2.2-4squeeze2) ... insserv: Service nfs-common has to be enabled to start service compare this with yours: ,[ head -n 14 /etc/init.d/nfs-common ]--- #!/bin/bash ###

Re: sync apt/dpkg state between systems?

2013-04-09 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Bob and Paul, Excerpt from myself: -- snip -- * Exclude /etc/fstab * Exclude /etc/lvm * Exclude /etc/mdadm + /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume It just crossed my mind that you also need to take care of everything where your MAC adresses are reused. For certain that is:

Re: Migrate from Icedove to Thunderbird.

2013-04-09 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Excerpt from Jose Manuel Pérez: How do I migrate my 1] email 2] filters 3] mailboxes 4] address book from Icedove to Thunderbird? If you are migrating in Linux, just copy .icedove directory to ..thunderbird i suppose this to be a typo as it should be '.thunderbird' and it

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Weaver
On Mon, April 8, 2013 2:18 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 13:35 -0700, Weaver wrote: So! Are we saying that the policy by which devs are included into core function needs looking at, from a Q.A. viewpoint? Do we even have one? If not, this may very well be a good place to

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Weaver
On Mon, April 8, 2013 6:56 pm, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized and not taken from banana republics. I don't like offtopic subjects, but since I am supposed to be civilized in

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized and not taken from banana republics. I don't like offtopic subjects, but since I am supposed to be

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 17:07 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 04:49:40AM +, Dirk wrote: http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623 I wondered about this. Looking at one example: D-Bus, with which I was minimally acquainted.

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:27 -0500, Yaro Kasear wrote: 1. Complaining about a minor inconvenient feature change (Moving most of the save functionality into export mode. Annoying, but hardly a dealbreaking move.). Never mind that I find GIMP's new interfact introduced in 2.8 is a vast

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 04:26:59 -0700 Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote: On Mon, April 8, 2013 6:56 pm, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized and not taken from banana republics. I

debian 6.0.7 amd64 raid0 lvm crypt - bootloader issue

2013-04-09 Thread shmick
Hi all, Having installed debian onto a hardware raid pc setup, using dmraid=true switch, I attempt to repair the failed grub/lilo bootlader install after rebooting into rescue, again with dmraid=true How can I get grub installed? Background info: Partitioning setup according to guided lvm

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Well, I know that i3 is very active (as I said, I really like this software, and it is, in my opinion, one of the best I have used in all categories: easiness of config, lightweight, features only related to its job...), and the community

Partitioning problem

2013-04-09 Thread Alexandre De Muer
Hi, When installing from Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 6.0.7 Squeeze - Official kfreebsd-i386 DVD Binary-1 20130223-17:32the following problem issued from guided partition layout:unable to set mount from file-system type swap on ** to none. The hardware I'm using: AMD Athlon XP 2200+, MSI 6511 ver1

Multiple kernels

2013-04-09 Thread Alexandre De Muer
Hi, When installing from Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 6.0.7 Squeeze - Official kfreebsd-i386 DVD Binary-1 20130223-17:32the following problem issued from selecting and installing programs: the ability to choose between kernel 8 and 8.1.1. The hardware I'm using: AMD Athlon XP 2200+, MSI 6511 ver1

Install package hang

2013-04-09 Thread Alexandre De Muer
Hi, When installing from Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 6.0.7 Squeeze - Official kfreebsd-i386 DVD Binary-1 20130223-17:32the following problem issued from selecting and installing programs:this part of setup hangs at 81% progress. The hardware I'm using: AMD Athlon XP 2200+, MSI 6511 ver1 motherboard,

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 08:07 -0400, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Bzzzt. Wrong. Check out the Wikipedia article on banana republics. That's a description of the term banana republic, but colloquial I use it for other countries with similar issues too. In Germany most people won't call Islamic nations

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:23:11PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: That's a description of the term banana republic, but colloquial I use it for other countries with similar issues too. In Germany most people won't call Islamic nations that kill their own and other people banana republic. When I

Journalism job directory

2013-04-09 Thread Greg McDivet
I wanted to tell you about this job directory: http://www.exam2jobs.com/journalism-jobs.html It has some good information about available jobs and offers help for a variety of certification exams. I thought it was a nice resource and you might want to post a link to it for others. Education

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 08:28 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:23:11PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: That's a description of the term banana republic, but colloquial I use it for other countries with similar issues too. In Germany most people won't call Islamic nations that

gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Chris Fisichella
I thought I had a good system. I was installing software from tarballs and putting them in /usr/local/. That worked well. Yesterday, I tried to install various versions of pcb-20110918. Among the commands I executed were sudo apt-get install libglw1-mesa-dev freeglut3-dev libgtkglext-dev

Re: gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
As root run /etc/init.d/network-manager start I'm using network-manager, but I also can run a script and connect to the Internet without network manager. I can't explain how to do this for Debian, since regarding to systemd's device naming even eth0 became an obscure name for my Linux. start

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati
Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized and not taken from banana republics. I don't like offtopic

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 14:13, Anthony Campbell a écrit : I like i3 too, but I find that spectrwm has similar features but is better in some respects. I have a comparison of i3, dwm, xmonad, and spectrwm on my blog at

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: This is an international mailing list and the rules should be

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Morning Star
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Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 16:26 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: This is

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 16:14, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : (I thought it was possible to hide title bars, but while reading the doc it appears that I was wrong... And by reading it with a search on word title I just remember that, I was true so, here is the option: border none. But it

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 09/04/13 15:12, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Your response is anything but civilized. It is arrogant, not to say irrational. You initially used as a model of the uncivilized the banana republics, that are just poor countries that are economically exploited and politically dominated by

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 15:47 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: I killfiled Mardorf a while ago, because I was disinterested in his arrogant racist views. I recommended to switch to off-topic mailing list! It's good if people know how to filter email, but show me racist views (you might read it, if

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 16:57, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : Any evidence for all those claims and conspiracy theories? 42. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati
Em 09-04-2013 11:26, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: This is an international

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread David Guntner
Yes, sir, the topic at hand is so incredibly relevant to this list! Yup, it's exactly the kind of thing that people who subscribed to it because it's a LIST SPECIFICALLY ABOUT USER-TO-USER SUPPORT OF THE *DEBIAN OPERATING SYSTEM* want to see. Yup, it's sure what those who signed up for a list

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 16:59 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 09.04.2013 16:57, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : Any evidence for all those claims and conspiracy theories? 42. Perhaps some Babel fishes would help, since language barriers seem to be not unimportant. And IIRC Deep Thought

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 12:04 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 09-04-2013 11:26, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:

Re: gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Chris Fisichella
Hi Ralf, Thanks for the debugging help. That makes sense about X being a little messed up, since I was installing X libraries last night. I'll attach the output to those commands. I am seeing X-type errors in .xsession-errors. This, in particular I think is the smoking gun:

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 04/09/2013 06:55 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: (snip) Why does Debian by default have the iced Mozillas? Because they're the only distribution that cares about the free software zealotry enough to comply with the Firefox trademark guideline? Just spitballing there. Most people consider firefox

RE: Installer not reading preseed.cfg

2013-04-09 Thread keshav prabhakar
really apologize for not responding sooner. Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:08:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Installer not reading preseed.cfg From: tomh0...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM, keshav prabhakar kes...@hotmail.com wrote: I just remembered, I'm

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Interesting. I just would like to notify you of some imprecise expressions which could lead to error: But I mostly work in stacked mode you should have speak about stacked layout, since the stacking mode is the one used by most Not sure

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 17:07, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 16:59 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 09.04.2013 16:57, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : Any evidence for all those claims and conspiracy theories? 42. Perhaps some Babel fishes would help, since language barriers seem

RE: Installer not reading preseed.cfg

2013-04-09 Thread keshav prabhakar
hit the 'send' button too soon. sorry. I don't understand. Did you reboot into your install after rebuilding the initramfs or did you re-install? Did you get No root file system found after rebuilding the initramfs or after the re-install? apologies for not being clear earlier. Yes, I

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 17:44, Anthony Campbell a écrit : On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Interesting. I just would like to notify you of some imprecise expressions which could lead to error: But I mostly work in stacked mode you should have speak about stacked layout, since the

INN2 and Authentication.

2013-04-09 Thread Nick Falcone
I am in the process of setting up an INN2, newsgroup server for small community discussion. So far I have INN2 working fine with no authentication and no SSL, but I will definitely need these working before I am confident in letting this service out. Does anyone have any experience with setting

Re: gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Chris Fisichella
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: That's the culprit: (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:2389): polkit-gnome-1-WARNING **: Error enumerating temporary authorizations: Remote Exception invoking org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority.EnumerateTemporaryAuthorizations() on

Re: gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 12:35 -0400, Chris Fisichella wrote: Okay, thanks for the help. I went to the Debian Squeeze package page for gdm3 and looked for the X11 dependencies. I used them in an apt-get install --reinstall command as follows: apt-get install --reinstall libx11-6 libxau6

debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?

2013-04-09 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: I have an Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard with integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150 graphics and a fresh install of debian-6.0.7-amd64, XFCE desktop, and xdm display manager. The display seems to be running at 1024x768 @ 60 Hz. I booted in recovery mode and ran: # Xorg -configure

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
Ralf Mardorf wrote: Joel Roth wrote: Dirk wrote: http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623 I wondered about this. Looking at one example: D-Bus, with which I was minimally acquainted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus D-Bus has replaced

Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 09:59 -0700, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have an Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard with integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150 graphics and a fresh install of debian-6.0.7-amd64, XFCE desktop, and xdm display manager. The display seems to be running at 1024x768 @ 60 Hz.

dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: dbus often is a PITA! Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as CORBA? No. I guess a predecessor won't help, if applications depend on dbus, such as jackd/jackdmp. I'm aware that I can use jackdmp

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
Anthony Campbell wrote: Status bar: in spectrwm you can optionally have no frame at all in fullscreen when you turn off the status bar. An absolutely minimal screen. That is the default in Stumpwm. The behavior is similiar to and inspired by GNU screen. -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: dbus often is a PITA! Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as CORBA? No. I guess a predecessor won't help, if applications depend on dbus,

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Erwan David
Le 09/04/2013 19:29, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: dbus often is a PITA! Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as CORBA? No. I guess a predecessor won't help, if applications depend on dbus, such as

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:33 +0200, Erwan David wrote: WHen reporting erreor messages when emacs-gtk from a ssh -X session, I was told that it's normal that it won't work since it uses dbus. Since then I have a bad feeling with dbus dependencies which seem to reduce the capabilities of

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: dbus often is a PITA! Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as CORBA? No. I guess a predecessor won't help, if

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:42:59PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: .snip You now behave exactly as the OP does! My intention clearly is, that it's not ok to discredit folks from upstream, just because we have different opinions. And it's not ok when you now discredit me

Channel Bonding Problem.

2013-04-09 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Hi list, i'm trying to setup channel bonding on debian with modes active-backup. For testing I'm using an old hp desktop (7 years old) with two nic 1) Integrate Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 GB [eth1] 2) Nic pci 3com 3c905C-TX/TX-M Fast Ethernet [eth0] This is my (very simple)

[closed] MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I guess the thread should be closed? I'm not the OP, but I don't care and close it now. I know it's arrogant to do it. If somebody is interested to continue, please do it at http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/d-community-offtopic/2013-April/date.html

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: dbus often is a PITA! Do you have experience with dbus's

Re: sync apt/dpkg state between systems?

2013-04-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Thilo Six wrote: Excerpt from Bob Proulx: # rsync -av /mnt/backup/etc/ /etc/ # rsync -n --delete -av /mnt/backup/etc/ /etc/ # rsync --delete -av /mnt/backup/etc/ /etc/ I believe this not to be a good idea. When you do this you mess around with config files under the control of

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:47 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: D-Bus is good overall... There could definitely be improvements in remote connections though. I think there are workarounds... [snip] DBus isn't an issue for applications you'll use with a desktop environment, when those apps should

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Weaver
On Tue, April 9, 2013 6:02 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 08:28 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:23:11PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: That's a description of the term banana republic, but colloquial I use it for other countries with similar issues too. In

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
OT regarding to dbus: I wrote: For other stuff package maintainers have to do a hard job, somebody seemingly does extract udev from systemd for Debian. I'm on a distro that follows upstream and there were many issues when they switched to systemd.

Re: dbus

2013-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
Ralf Mardorf wrote: DBus isn't an issue for applications you'll use with a desktop environment, when those apps should communicate with each other, but it could become an issue, if apps should run on other setups (too) and it's an issue if simple commands that worked before, then won't work

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:20:15PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: OT regarding to dbus: I wrote: For other stuff package maintainers have to do a hard job, somebody seemingly does extract udev from systemd for Debian. I'm on a distro that follows upstream and there were many issues when

Re: Pioneer BDR-*206* Internal Blu-Ray Disc DVD/CD writer and Debian

2013-04-09 Thread David Christensen
On 04/03/13 22:05, David Christensen wrote: I looks like it's time for a backup/ wipe/ reinstall cycle. I wiped the system drive and did a fresh install of debian-6.0.7-amd64. The system is able to burn DVD-R discs correctly. However, it fails to burn Blu-Ray discs: 1. I insert a blank

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