Re: miniconf a barcelona

2013-10-12 Thread Simó Albert i Beltran
Al 10/10/13 20:16, En/na Adrià ha escrit: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:59:23PM +0200, Simó Albert i Beltran wrote: Adrià, pots confirmar que podem anar al Almina Bar el diumenge al matí? Confirmat. He usat la telefonia analògica per parlar amb ells i ens guardaran un espai per diumenge sobre

Re: dos preguntes debian testing i memòries usb

2013-10-12 Thread alex
A 2013-10-11 22:13, Ernest Adrogué escrigué: 11-10-2013, 21:00 (+0200); a...@probeta.net escriu: 1) A les noves debian testing que he instal.lat des de fa unes setmanes, quan insereixo una memòria usb o disc dur usb, els monta sense permisos d'escriptura. En realitat és curiós, perquè el

Re: Calcul CIDR

2013-10-12 Thread Wallace
Si tu veux pas t'embêter à calculer en binaire, malheureusement c'est incontournable pour ce genre de calcul, le mieux est d'utiliser une librairie qui le fait et bien ou parser le résultat d'un outil en CLI qui le fait bien aussi. Pour ma part je te recommande subnetcalc plutôt que ipcalc parce

Intel N2600 Asus eeepc x101ch

2013-10-12 Thread lividineitor .
Gracias por la ayuda me pasaré por la otra lista. :-)

Re: Debian testing y terminal emulator (root) ¿Bug?

2013-10-12 Thread Eduardo Rios
Aunque ahora estoy en sid, también seguía teniendo el problema. Hasta hoy. Ya lo han solucionado. Los paquetes que he actualizado hoy han sido: Actualizó los siguientes paquetes: gir1.2-gtk-3.0 (3.8.4-1) to 3.8.5-1 libavcodec54 (6:9.8-2+b2) to 6:9.10-1 libavformat54 (6:9.8-2+b2) to 6:9.10-1

Re: Debian testing y terminal emulator (root) ¿Bug?

2013-10-12 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 12/10/13 11:23, Eduardo Rios escribió: Aunque ahora estoy en sid, también seguía teniendo el problema. Hasta hoy. Ya lo han solucionado. Pues no he dicho nada. Sigue fallando :-P -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 1 linux machines Registered Linux machine #2003003 --

Re: [OT] Un derivado Debian particular

2013-10-12 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:21:58 -0300, Fabián Bonetti escribió: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:06:43 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Y más de lo mismo :-P No es mas de lo mismo, esta construida de forma distinta ¿En qué sentido? todo el sistema esta contenido en 10 archivos

Re: OT: Lightning dejó de funcional tras actualización de Thunderbird oficial

2013-10-12 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 11 Oct 2013 22:35:27 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió: Viernes 11 de octubre se actualizó Thunderbird por la versión 24.0.1, tras la cual dejó de funcionar el complemento Ligtning. ¿Alguien lo usa? ¿Le pasó lo mismo? (...) Sí, y ayer lo actualicé... ¡¡Ostras!! Adiós calendario

Re: Debian testing y terminal emulator (root) ¿Bug?

2013-10-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:49:18 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 12/10/13 11:23, Eduardo Rios escribió: Aunque ahora estoy en sid, también seguía teniendo el problema. Hasta hoy. Ya lo han solucionado. Pues no he dicho nada. Sigue fallando :-P Cuando lo arreglen aparecerá indicado en el bug

Re: [OT] Un derivado Debian particular

2013-10-12 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:34:32 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Y poco cambios veo, la verdad, no me convence lo más mínimo; parece muy desactualizada (los últimos cambios son de hace 2 años). Aquí pecas de no conocer las bondades de Estrella Roja. Dentro tiene un poderoso

Re: [OT] Un derivado Debian particular

2013-10-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 12 Oct 2013 12:02:53 -0300, Fabián Bonetti escribió: On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:34:32 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Y poco cambios veo, la verdad, no me convence lo más mínimo; parece muy desactualizada (los últimos cambios son de hace 2 años). Aquí pecas de no

Re: [OT] Un derivado Debian particular

2013-10-12 Thread eldebiandepepe
El 11/10/13 08:42, C. L. Martinez escribió: 2013/10/10 eldebiandep...@gmail.com: El 10/10/13 23:55, Carlos Zuniga escribió: 2013/10/10 Fabián Bonetti mama21m...@riseup.net: Web nueva con mirror, filosofía y mas. http://estrellarojalibre.com.ar/ Su archivo .iso trae 5000 paquetes, es

Re: [OT] Uso de patrones geométricos en LO

2013-10-12 Thread eldebiandepepe
El 11/10/13 17:33, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 10 Oct 2013 23:53:28 +0200, eldebiandepepe escribió: El 10/10/13 18:31, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 10 Oct 2013 18:14:07 +0200, Javier Silva escribió: (...) La imagen es realmente un patrón con el que puedes rellenar cualquier elemento, tanto

Re: [OT] Uso de patrones geométricos en LO

2013-10-12 Thread eldebiandepepe
El 11/10/13 19:46, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:55:09 +, Camaleón escribió: Estoy buscando la forma de usar patrones¹ geométricos simples en LO (Writer, más bien) como fondo de una celda pero sólo veo dos opciones: (...) He puesto un informe de fallo (de tipo mejora) en LO:

Re: [OT] Uso de patrones geométricos en LO

2013-10-12 Thread eldebiandepepe
El 11/10/13 19:46, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:55:09 +, Camaleón escribió: Estoy buscando la forma de usar patrones¹ geométricos simples en LO (Writer, más bien) como fondo de una celda pero sólo veo dos opciones: (...) He puesto un informe de fallo (de tipo mejora) en LO:

kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-12 Thread Maykel Franco
Hola buenas, he visto que algunas distro con kde, como por ejemplo opensuse, cuando clickeabas al boton derecho encima de kmix y le dabas a configuración, aparecia una pestaña de configuración de audio, adjunto captura de imagne por si me explico mal:

Re: [OT] Uso de patrones geométricos en LO

2013-10-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:30:16 +0200, eldebiandepepe escribió: El 11/10/13 19:46, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:55:09 +, Camaleón escribió: Estoy buscando la forma de usar patrones¹ geométricos simples en LO (Writer, más bien) como fondo de una celda pero sólo veo dos opciones:

Re: kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 12 Oct 2013 18:25:14 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: Hola buenas, he visto que algunas distro con kde, como por ejemplo opensuse, cuando clickeabas al boton derecho encima de kmix y le dabas a configuración, aparecia una pestaña de configuración de audio, adjunto captura de imagne por

Re: [OT] Uso de patrones geométricos en LO

2013-10-12 Thread fernando sainz
El día 12 de octubre de 2013 18:29, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:30:16 +0200, eldebiandepepe escribió: El 11/10/13 19:46, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:55:09 +, Camaleón escribió: Estoy buscando la forma de usar patrones¹ geométricos simples en

Hibernación y tamaño de swap

2013-10-12 Thread Gerardo Diez García
En un hilo anterior de esta lista se hablaba sobre los tamaños de swap en relación a la RAM disponible. Siguiendo la opinión de un listero cree una partición swap de 4 GB teniendo una RAM de 8 GB. En ese hilo se daba por supuesto que en esas condiciones la opción de hibernación se perdía

Re: [OT] Uso de patrones geométricos en LO

2013-10-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 12 Oct 2013 18:47:36 +0200, fernando sainz escribió: El día 12 de octubre de 2013 18:29, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) ¿Sabes qué pasa? Que al final terminas hasta el gorro de poner informes de fallo, de mejora... sinceramente, espero _un mínimo_ de calidad en los

Re: Hibernación y tamaño de swap

2013-10-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 12 Oct 2013 18:48:01 +0200, Gerardo Diez García escribió: En un hilo anterior de esta lista se hablaba sobre los tamaños de swap en relación a la RAM disponible. Siguiendo la opinión de un listero cree una partición swap de 4 GB teniendo una RAM de 8 GB. Si quieres hibernar el

Re: kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-12 Thread Antoni Bella Pérez
El Dissabte, 12 d'octubre de 2013, a les 18:25:14, Maykel Franco va escriure: Hola buenas, he visto que algunas distro con kde, como por ejemplo opensuse, cuando clickeabas al boton derecho encima de kmix y le dabas a configuración, aparecia una pestaña de configuración de audio, adjunto

Re: kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-12 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 12 de octubre de 2013 19:14, Antoni Bella Pérez antonibel...@orange.es escribió: El Dissabte, 12 d'octubre de 2013, a les 18:25:14, Maykel Franco va escriure: Hola buenas, he visto que algunas distro con kde, como por ejemplo opensuse, cuando clickeabas al boton derecho encima de kmix y

Re: kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-12 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 12 de octubre de 2013 19:46, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 12 de octubre de 2013 19:14, Antoni Bella Pérez antonibel...@orange.es escribió: El Dissabte, 12 d'octubre de 2013, a les 18:25:14, Maykel Franco va escriure: Hola buenas, he visto que algunas distro con

Re: [OT] Uso de patrones geométricos en LO

2013-10-12 Thread fernando sainz
El día 12 de octubre de 2013 19:03, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 12 Oct 2013 18:47:36 +0200, fernando sainz escribió: El día 12 de octubre de 2013 18:29, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) ¿Sabes qué pasa? Que al final terminas hasta el gorro de poner informes de

¿Cómo reproducir un CD de audio en Debian 6?

2013-10-12 Thread academia
Hola listeros. Hace unos días una profesora de Apreciación de la Música impartía su clase en el laboratorio de computación de mi red local (todas con debian 6) Al querer utilizar un CD de audio en su clase pues ESTE NO FUNCIONÓ. Lo mismo me ocurrió en casa cuando un amigo me dio a probar un curso

Re: ¿Cómo reproducir un CD de audio en Debian 6?

2013-10-12 Thread Ruben Cervantes Rodríguez
El Sab, 12 de Octubre de 2013, 3:00 pm, acade...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió: Hola listeros. Hace unos días una profesora de Apreciación de la Música impartía su clase en el laboratorio de computación de mi red local (todas con debian 6) Al querer utilizar un CD de audio en su clase pues ESTE NO

Re: ¿Cómo reproducir un CD de audio en Debian 6?

2013-10-12 Thread fernando sainz
El día 12 de octubre de 2013 21:00, acade...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió: Hola listeros. Hace unos días una profesora de Apreciación de la Música impartía su clase en el laboratorio de computación de mi red local (todas con debian 6) Al querer utilizar un CD de audio en su clase pues ESTE NO

Fwd: Re: ¿Cómo reproducir un CD de audio en Debian 6?

2013-10-12 Thread Raúl Armenta
-- Mensaje reenviado -- De: Ruben Cervantes Rodríguez ruben.cervan...@cmg.jovenclub.cu Fecha: 12/10/2013 22:28 Asunto: Re: ¿Cómo reproducir un CD de audio en Debian 6? Para: acade...@pinarte.cult.cu Cc: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org El Sab, 12 de Octubre de 2013, 3:00 pm,

Usuarios en pantalla de logueo

2013-10-12 Thread Pablo
Gente acudo a la comunidad para que me den una mano. Hace tiempo habia logrado solucionar esto y ahora no doy pie con bola. No me acuerdo como lo habia sacado en su momento. Lo que necesito es que en la pantalla de logueo de mi debian no me figuren los nombres de usuarios. Se que esto era posible

Re: Usuarios en pantalla de logueo

2013-10-12 Thread fernando sainz
El día 13 de octubre de 2013 04:33, Pablo pablocar...@gmail.com escribió: Gente acudo a la comunidad para que me den una mano. Hace tiempo habia logrado solucionar esto y ahora no doy pie con bola. No me acuerdo como lo habia sacado en su momento. Lo que necesito es que en la pantalla de logueo

Re: Alexandre Alves Borba mentioned you in an update

2013-10-12 Thread Thiago Oliveira
Começa as 14 hs, mas vai ateh que horas? *Thiago Oliveira* Graduando de Segurança da Informação FATEC-SCShttp://www.fatecsaocaetano.edu.br/ Email Pessoal troolive...@gmail.com Email Acadêmicothiago.oliveir...@fatec.sp.gov.br Twitter http://www.twitter.com/trooliveira

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
Not really, you at least need to manually add a link, regarding to the different program names. I never did, and never had to. It works fine. Just because you're using software that doesn't use this software as a dependency. I don't know what you are talking about. Sure, if

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
https://github.com/mate-desktop/archlinux-packages From the linked page: mate-file-archiver: Removed any packages from the 'depends' that are pulled in via gtk2. 24 days ago Looks to me like they fixed the conflict in Arch. You have no leg to stand on with this one. Also, that's Arch.

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
https://github.com/mate-desktop/debian-packages -- https://github.com/mate-desktop/debian-packages/tree/master/mate-file- archiver These are irrelevant. mate-file-archiver does not exist anymore, and engrampa is optional. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 01:43 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: Not really, you at least need to manually add a link, regarding to the different program names. I never did, and never had to. It works fine. Just because you're using software that doesn't use this software as dependency.

Re: deploy ?

2013-10-12 Thread Diogene Laerce
Have you enabled the necessary WSGI modules in Apache and performed the necessary configuration? You have to remember that the Django python files need an application server to compile and process. Apache out of the box doesn't do that. mod_wshi is one option. I guess you mean mod_wsgi cos

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Mark, when you use your Outlook 15.0, please take care not to sent duplicated mails. Perhaps you should use a MUA for Mate, instead of using MS Windows. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus

2013-10-12 Thread Marko Randjelovic
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. :) apt-get install gnome-applets gnome-screenshot gnome-session gnome-panel gnome-terminal gedit gdm3 file-roller gnome-icon-theme -- To

Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 10:58 +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote: apt-get install gnome-applets gnome-screenshot gnome-session gnome-panel gnome-terminal gedit gdm3 file-roller gnome-icon-theme After running that apt-get command, there still would be a meta-package available by the repositories, that

linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Jesse Molina
Hi I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 kernel package, and it is unbootable. When I boot from the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 package kernel, the boot fails and

Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus

2013-10-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 10:58, Marko Randjelovic a écrit : One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. :) apt-get install gnome-applets gnome-screenshot gnome-session gnome-panel gnome-terminal

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 10/11/2013 08:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Wikipedia is hardly what I would call reliable. This definition is one person's opinion, nothing more. absolutely I happen to disagree. Even single user systems need sysadmins. And the sysadmin is the person ultimately responsible for the

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
Mark, when you use your Outlook 15.0, please take care not to sent duplicated mails. Perhaps you should use a MUA for Mate, instead of using MS Windows. Don't bitch about Outlook. I will continue to use it, never mind why. Windows is not evil. The mistake was mine, Outlook is not to

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 01:43 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: Not really, you at least need to manually add a link, regarding to the different program names. I never did, and never had to. It works fine. Just because you're using software that doesn't use this software as

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Mark, On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 05:13 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: Mark, when you use your Outlook 15.0, please take care not to sent duplicated mails. Perhaps you should use a MUA for Mate, instead of using MS Windows. Don't bitch about Outlook. I will continue to use it, never mind why.

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 12.10.2013 00:46, Tom H a écrit : Did you notice the could've? Ermm... no, sorry :) did not noticed :/ Pas de soucis! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: don't you think most home use single-user systems have 2 people ?? Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who live in relationships, but with separated households. Even food industry makes huge profit by

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
IOW you might not experience issues with your computer, with Mate and/or Windows, but you at least cause issues when using Windows. Those issues aren't very serious, but you can't speak about your experiences, that everything is ok, while it's not ok. I certainly can speak about it. I use

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 05:57 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: But don't disparage others who use it. That's just bigoted. I never did that! Does Debian recommend to use third party repositories? Mate isn't ready yet to be used without issues, it someday might be included to the official repositories.

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 13:50, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: don't you think most home use single-user systems have 2 people ?? Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who live in relationships, but with separated

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 07:04 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: Regarding to the OPs request I guess that there's a reason that Debian maintainers didn't upgrade to Cinnamon 2.0 yet. It's easy to build packages that run on your or my machine, but a maintainer needs to ensure that things don't break

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 14:04, Mark Allums a écrit : I'm not nagging about you. My concern is to nag about recommending a third party repository, that is known to cause issues. If the OP does like Cinnamon, then IMO the OP should use the official packages to ensure that it's as stable as possible and

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 18:43 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:42:44 +0200, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: MATE can be

Re: Set widescreen resolution in console

2013-10-12 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:16:11 -0400 (EDT), Antonio Paiva wrote: I have recently acquired an old Sony Vaio PCG-C1VN (aka, a PictureBook) and installed Debian wheezy. The problem is that I can only get the *console* to run at 640x480 resolution. The C1VN has a (very wide) native resolution of

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Sharon Kimble
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:52:17 -0500 Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 11:34 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: The dialogs from Gnome 3 (zenity) serves, so mate-dialogs-gnome isn't needed if zenity is installed (and mate-dialogs-gnome can serve in place for zenity as

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: don't you think most home use single-user systems have 2 people ?? Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who live in relationships, but with separated households.

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 15:16, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: don't you think most home use single-user systems have 2 people ?? Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who live

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Joe
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:28:10 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: 1: of course, a DHCP can helps, and I have seen those made by an association starting to buy and configure dedicated hardware. But even then, the last time I went there they had not setup a DHCP. Windows is able to

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 12.10.2013 15:16, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: don't you think most home use single-user systems have 2 people ?? Germany has

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
The point of mentioning MATE was in context with adding MATE to Debian. Our point was, there are only minor problems with that happening, and they should be solvable fairly easily within a short period of time (i.e., in the time between releases of Stable). This problem is not MATE

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 12 October 2013 14:42:31 Mark Allums wrote: I loved KDE 3. Have you looked at Trinity? It is a fork of KDE3 as MATE is a fork of Gnome2. http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
I don't nag about endless lines, It's not the end of the world, but unfavourable when you argument about not running into issues with your computer, while causing issues for the list, when you're using Windows, IOW you might not experience issues with your computer, with Mate and/or

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 14:28 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [snip] Time to switch to the OT list or to reply off-list ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
On Saturday 12 October 2013 14:42:31 Mark Allums wrote: I loved KDE 3. Have you looked at Trinity? It is a fork of KDE3 as MATE is a fork of Gnome2. http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ Lisi Thanks. I will check it out. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem. 1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet connection. 2) A DSL or cable modem is still a modem (MOdulator/DEModulator), though most

realtek r8189 driver problem on 64 bit kernel

2013-10-12 Thread Wackojacko
I have recently updated my motherboard which has resulted in me having an updated realtek r8168 chip (rev 6 instead of rev 3), unfortunately the new chip fails to get a connection via dhcp, and setting a static address results in 100% packet loss. I am currently running sid amd64 and have

Re: Unable to locate mail spool file.-SOLVED

2013-10-12 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 10/12/2013 10:27 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: ok, I have exim4 setup as internet site, using Maildir. my /home/user/Maildir is there. I sent a test message and a new message shows up in /home/user/Maildir/new . in Thunderbird when I try to check mail in that account is says Unable to locate

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 14:05 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden' Try http://debian.netcologne.de/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb instead [1]. Regards, Ralf PS: [2]

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 15:42, Mark Allums a écrit : I might could change the typos in docs to become different typos in different places. I can't develop for MATE, it's not part of my skill set. I will encourage other people to get involved, that much, I can do. Package maintenance is not really a

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 14:05 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden' Try http://debian.netcologne.de/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb instead [1]. Regards, Ralf PS: [2]

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:08 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: I don't nag about endless lines, It's not the end of the world, but unfavourable when you argument about not running into issues with your computer, while causing issues for the list, when you're using Windows, IOW you might not

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:37 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I think that the point in his message was to show that it is not because the usage in your, or mine, or his, country is something that this use is the usage of the majority.

Re: realtek r8189 driver problem on 64 bit kernel

2013-10-12 Thread Wackojacko
Sending tot the list sorry gary On 12/10/13 15:32, Gary Dale wrote: I had a similar problem but fixed it by enabling IOEMU in the BIOS of my Gigabyte 970A-D3P. I assume you mean IOMMU, I had already enabled this a few minutes before you suggested it but it didn't appear to work at first.

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Jesse Molina wrote: Hi I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 kernel package, and it is unbootable. When I boot from the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 package kernel,

GNOME 3.10 Support

2013-10-12 Thread MUH Jeeshan
Hi, I think Debian Sid is using GNOME 3.8 currently. Now how can I install GNOME 3.10 in Debian with it's core apps e.g. music, photos, maps? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: realtek r8189 driver problem on 64 bit kernel

2013-10-12 Thread Wackojacko
On 12/10/13 16:37, Gary Dale wrote: On 12/10/13 11:03 AM, Wackojacko wrote: On 12/10/13 15:32, Gary Dale wrote: I had a similar problem but fixed it by enabling IOEMU in the BIOS of my Gigabyte 970A-D3P. I assume you mean IOMMU, I had already enabled this a few minutes before you suggested

Unable to locate mail spool file.

2013-10-12 Thread Paul Cartwright
ok, I have exim4 setup as internet site, using Maildir. my /home/user/Maildir is there. I sent a test message and a new message shows up in /home/user/Maildir/new . in Thunderbird when I try to check mail in that account is says Unable to locate Mail spool file. It is a UNIX Movemail account. What

Re: realtek r8189 driver problem on 64 bit kernel

2013-10-12 Thread Gary Dale
On 12/10/13 11:03 AM, Wackojacko wrote: On 12/10/13 15:32, Gary Dale wrote: I had a similar problem but fixed it by enabling IOEMU in the BIOS of my Gigabyte 970A-D3P. I assume you mean IOMMU, I had already enabled this a few minutes before you suggested it but it didn't appear to work at

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-12 Thread msl09
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought it was going to upgrade it so I confirmed it. I had to reinstall apt from the debian packages website. In this new installation I gave it another try but when it

Re: realtek r8189 driver problem on 64 bit kernel

2013-10-12 Thread Gary Dale
On 12/10/13 10:25 AM, Wackojacko wrote: I have recently updated my motherboard which has resulted in me having an updated realtek r8168 chip (rev 6 instead of rev 3), unfortunately the new chip fails to get a connection via dhcp, and setting a static address results in 100% packet loss. I am

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Rhiamom
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:15 AM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: Joe writes: I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem. 1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet connection. 2) A

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread John Hasler
Rhiamom writes: I thought that cablemodems were technically bridges, not modems at all, with or without the router capability most now have. The data is transmitted modulated onto a carrier (the modulation method is quite complex) not as baseband. Thus the device is a modem. -- John Hasler

Re: GNOME 3.10 Support

2013-10-12 Thread Pascal Obry
Le 12 oct. 2013 17:30, MUH Jeeshan tranjees...@inventati.org a écrit : Hi, I think Debian Sid is using GNOME 3.8 currently. Now how can I install GNOME 3.10 in Debian with it's core apps e.g. music, photos, maps? It is using gtk 3.8 but gnome shell 3.4. Gnome shell 3.8 is in experimental.

Re: Unable to locate mail spool file.

2013-10-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/12/2013 9:27 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: ok, I have exim4 setup as internet site, using Maildir. my /home/user/Maildir is there. I sent a test message and a new message shows up in /home/user/Maildir/new . in Thunderbird when I try to check mail in that account is says Unable to locate

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Jesse Molina
That's a good idea, but this system already had a rootdelay=5 configured, and I even raised it to 15 during testing with no effect upon the situation. I have had problems on a different host using md RAID5 as it's boot array, which requires a rootdelay on the 3.8 and 3.10 kernels. There are

Re: Consistent mouse and scrollbar behavior in X?

2013-10-12 Thread Clive Standbridge
Hello Brian, Clicking on scrollbars does different things with different applications. In Emacs, the following used to be standard: - left click: one screenful down - right click: one screenful up - middle click: jump to where you clicked Better than that, the left and right click scroll

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Joe
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:15:16 -0500 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: Joe writes: I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem. 1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet connection.

RE: Set widescreen resolution in console

2013-10-12 Thread Antonio Paiva
Thank you Dmitrii. I did try vga=ask but that option is no longer supported by the debian kernel. On the grub console, I also tried vbeinfo and couldn't find the 1024x480 mode. And vbetest only worked with 640x480. Antonio From: Dmitrii Kashin Sent: 10/10/2013 3:25 PM To:

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joe wrote: On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:15:16 -0500 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: Joe writes: I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem. 1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet

Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Francesco Pietra wrote: I hope not to bother beyond the limit, but the security of mirror raid is something of utmost importance, at least in my work of biochemist, with very limited ability in recovering from disk failures. I must express concern. While RAID is very useful to keeping a

Re: mdadm gives segmentatin fault on wheezy. RAID array now incomplete.

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Hendrik Boom wrote: I ran mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/sdd2 and got a segmentation fault. Ouch. Scary! april:/farhome/hendrik# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] md1 : active raid1 sdb2[1] 2391295864 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [_U] md0 : active raid1 sda4[0] sdc4[1]

Re: apt-get update fails after wheezy update

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Steven G. Johnson wrote: Jochen Spieker wrote: Very strange. Did you try changing to another mirror, just to see if that helps? Did you set a proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf{,.d}? That was the problem: we had previously been using the approx proxy server, and there was an Acquire::http::proxy

Re: [SOLVED] Static IP /etc/network/interfaces, but got leased by dhcp

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Ivan Kovnatsky wrote: Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: Hm. This should not be happening. Was it DHCP recently? (i.e. at any time since the last reboot) Because this sequence of events would produce what you saw: I have uptime: And I fount that dhcp was running: Alternatively: when

Re: which file should I download

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Anjan Mitra a écrit : debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [1] 2013-06-16 01:39 3.7G debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso [2] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso [3] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [4] 2013-06-16 05:34 2.9G

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Markus Falb
On 12.Okt.2013, at 01:22, Terho Uotila wrote: On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 00:11:01 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Oh, of course, if you speak about giving yourself a label, then, fine. Take the one you want. But, it does not mean that you can claim to be a professional, or that you

Re: Problem starting shorewall6 (or possibly shorewall) on boot

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Ulrik Haugen wrote: When I boot my machine something like the following is printed: I don't know. But there haven't been any other responses for several days. So I will make a comment. [ 50.220571] xt_addrtype: ipv6 does not support BROADCAST matching Starting Shorewall firewall: not

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, msl09 contams...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Dmitrii Kashin free...@freehck.ru wrote: Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes: Have you filed a bug report about aptitude breaking apt (whatever that means!) or is this just FUD? No, I have not.

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Jesse Molina je...@opendreams.net wrote: On 10/12/13 8:22 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Jesse Molina wrote: I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the

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