Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:43 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/21/2014 04:24 AM, Joel Rees wrote: I decided to do a search on systemd openbsd to see what reaction those friendly guys over there have, and I discovered the list

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2014-07-22 00:46 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: I assume this partition on the removable drive is not marked noauto or nofail Since systemd can't know which mount points are essential for your system to come up properly,

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:54:42 -0400 [...] systemd[1]: /usr appears to be on its own filesytem and is not already mounted. This is not a supported setup. Some things will probably break (sometimes even silently) in mysterious ways.

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 07:26:43AM +0200, Erwan David wrote: I do not have the ressources to test : no time no machine which I can afford to break. And since today syste,md-shim is no more an option

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/22/14, David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote: Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote: There is one https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ but a quick look at the its archives shows that it isn't a heavily used list and that it's not a list for freaking out about systemd. Neither is

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 7/22/14, David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote: Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote: There is one https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ but a quick look at the its archives shows that it isn't a heavily used list and that it's not a list for freaking out about

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/22/14, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: I use Wheezy. I have been using Debian since Potato, as I remember, I started with Debian just after Y2K. I started out to write about the debian-testing ML but first I need help with a crazyness in my mail system that I just noticed,

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/22/14, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 7/22/14, David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote: Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote: There is one https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ but a quick look at the its archives shows that it isn't a heavily used list and that it's not a

Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joel Rees wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:43 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/21/2014 04:24 AM, Joel Rees wrote: I decided to do a search on systemd openbsd to see what reaction those friendly guys over there have, and I

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:33:28 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net napísal: Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the lists seems like a very bad idea. Someone inhibit you to subscribe to both?

Re: mutt can't send mail (Interrupted system call)

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-22, Tony Baldwin to...@myownsite.me wrote: Ultimately, that's what I'd like to determine, but have so far not been able to. The error is too vague (Interrupted System Call), and all the googling and duckgoing and ixquicking has produced nothing useful. We need to see your config.

Fwd: Main Menu

2014-07-22 Thread Emil Payne
Right clicking on the Main Menu icon brings up the Edit Menu program. However, once in there, it will only allow me to (un)check items, delete items or add items. it will not allow me to mover items up or down or to move to another section. My main thing is I want them alphabetized. Some

Main Menu

2014-07-22 Thread Emil Payne
Right clicking on the Main Menu icon brings up the Edit Menu program. However, once in there, it will only allow me to (un)check items, delete items or add items. it will not allow me to mover items up or down or to move to another section. My main thing is I want them alphabetized. Some

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the lists seems like a very bad idea. Have you undergone a personality transplant or has your rabbit died? --

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:33:28 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net napísal: Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the lists seems like a very bad idea. Someone inhibit you to subscribe

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the lists seems like a very bad idea. Have you undergone a personality transplant or has your rabbit

Main Menu

2014-07-22 Thread Emil Payne
Right clicking on the Main Menu icon brings up the Edit Menu program. However, once in there, it will only allow me to (un)check items, delete items or add items. it will not allow me to mover items up or down or to move to another section. My main thing is I want them alphabetized. Some

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Have you undergone a personality transplant or has your rabbit died? Huh? You were Dr. Fidelman and now you've turned into Mr. Miles. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Erwan David
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 03:47:36PM CEST, Slavko li...@slavino.sk said: Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:33:28 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net napísal: Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the

Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Gotta say, as soon as there's a Xen Dom0 for either FreeBSD or Illumos, I'll seriously look at moving. This is tragic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-22 Thread Joe
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 22:04:22 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:54:42 -0400 [...] systemd[1]: /usr appears to be on its own filesytem and is not already mounted. This is not a supported setup.

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:03:17 Curt wrote: now you've turned into Mr. Miles. Where do you get the Mr. from? I can't see it. I suspect it isn't there. As far as I can see, Doctor Miles Fidelman sometimes calls himself, Miles Fidelman or M. Fidelman. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: a simple script for restoring downloaded debs

2014-07-22 Thread songbird
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: songbird wrote on 07/19/2014 16:23: Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: snip Why not copy all files back and order something like apt-get autoclean to get rid of the older packages? it's a rather huge archive (i think about 18000 debs), but yes that would be another way

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-22, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:03:17 Curt wrote: now you've turned into Mr. Miles. Where do you get the Mr. from? I can't see it. I suspect it isn't there. As far as I can see, Doctor Miles Fidelman sometimes calls himself, Miles

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:58:16 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net napísal: Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:33:28 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net napísal: Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with testing,

Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:01:02 Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Gotta say, as soon as there's a Xen Dom0 for either FreeBSD or Illumos, I'll seriously look at moving. This is tragic. Why? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-22 Thread Martin Read
On 22/07/14 15:03, Joe wrote: I've got it now. Apparently /usr has needed to be available at boot time for a long time, but this seems to have completely passed me by, and hasn't yet bitten me. I have always thought that 'usr' was short for 'user', and that /usr contains only applications and

Re: init spawning multiple cf-execd processes at once

2014-07-22 Thread Lorenzo Beretta
On 07/21/2014 04:56 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:39:16 +0200 Jimmy Thrasibule jimmy.thrasib...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've added a new line to the /etc/inittab file to monitor the CFEngine daemon and restart it in case this one dies.

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: Le 21/07/2014 18:23, Tom H a écrit : On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 09:59:55AM CEST, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com said: On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:33 PM, sp113438

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-22 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Tom H wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Damn right I don't use development or testing versions in production. I'm looking down the road a year and

Re: Nouveau Resume from Suspend/Hibernate Screen Corruption

2014-07-22 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-07-22 05:29:48 +, Dan Sommers wrote: I just upgraded from the proprietary nvidia video driver to nouveau, and I wouldn't call that an upgrade (except that nouveau is free). now I am experiencing another variation of a screen corruption issue when resuming from suspend/hibernate.

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Have you undergone a personality transplant or has your rabbit died? Huh? You were Dr. Fidelman and now you've turned into Mr. Miles. If there's a Dr. Fidelman out there - it ain't me. -- In theory, there is

Re: Main Menu

2014-07-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 22 July 2014 14:54:05 Emil Payne wrote: Right clicking on the Main Menu icon brings up the Edit Menu program. However, once in there, it will only allow me to (un)check items, delete items or add items. it will not allow me to mover items up or down or to move to another section. My

Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-22, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: This is tragic. Why? Lisi I guess I was being ironic. Curt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 03:27:50PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:01:02 Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Gotta say, as soon as there's a Xen Dom0 for either FreeBSD or Illumos, I'll seriously look at moving. This is

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 10:34 AM, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: So it seems there is a quiet on the default command line, which does not mean same thing when using systemd or using init. I do not

Re: init spawning multiple cf-execd processes at once

2014-07-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Jimmy Thrasibule wrote: I've added a new line to the /etc/inittab file to monitor the CFEngine daemon and restart it in case this one dies. cfe:2345:respawn:/var/cfengine/bin/cf-execd The cf-execd is re-spawned as expected, except the fact that multiple processes

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Erwan David wrote: I lokked at it. I do not know how to remove this quiet on command line which seems to have appeared. Did systemd change grub configuration ? Or did rather change grub semantics ? It's the default in Debian. Edit /etc/default/grub and remove quiet from

Re: init spawning multiple cf-execd processes at once

2014-07-22 Thread Lorenzo Beretta
On 07/21/2014 02:39 PM, Jimmy Thrasibule wrote: Hi, I've added a new line to the /etc/inittab file to monitor the CFEngine daemon and restart it in case this one dies. cfe:2345:respawn:/var/cfengine/bin/cf-execd The cf-execd is re-spawned as expected, except the fact that multiple

Is xhost +si:localuser:root safe?

2014-07-22 Thread Vincent Lefevre
To be able to save/restore the XKB keymap in a /etc/pm/sleep.d script (as a workaround for Debian bug 633849), xkbcomp needs to have access to the display. The simplest solution I've found is a xhost +si:localuser:root in my .xsession file. But some users discourage to allow this access

Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 03:27:50PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:01:02 Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Gotta say, as soon as there's a Xen Dom0 for either FreeBSD or Illumos, I'll seriously look at

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 22:04:22 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:54:42 -0400 [...] systemd[1]: /usr appears to be on its own filesytem and is not already mounted. This is not a supported setup.

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Erwan David
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 05:25:22PM CEST, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org said: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Erwan David wrote: I lokked at it. I do not know how to remove this quiet on command line which seems to have appeared. Did systemd change grub configuration ? Or did rather change grub

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:35:58 Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:03:17 Curt wrote: now you've turned into Mr. Miles. Where do you get the Mr. from? I can't see it. I suspect it isn't there. As far as I can see, Doctor Miles

Re: VLC error polluting terminal ( was: Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? ) )

2014-07-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140722_1037+0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 22.07.2014 00:00, Paul E Condon a écrit : Please help. Wow nice off-topic... I have no idea about where this is related to the question of the interest of splitting debian-user ML into a stable and a testing ML... Anyway,

Re: VLC error polluting terminal ( was: Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? ) )

2014-07-22 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 12:16 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: Concerning burying my request for help in an existing thread. I used Emacs to delete the reply-to header line and thought that would be enough. Obviously, not. I have learned yet another thing not to

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 12:16 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:35:58 Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you get the Mr. from? I can't see it. I suspect it isn't there. As far as I can see,

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 11:56 AM, Erwan David wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 05:25:22PM CEST, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org said: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Erwan David wrote: I lokked at it. I do not know how to remove this quiet on command line which

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread berenger . morel
Le 22.07.2014 15:38, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : And emacs ... just ... wierdo! Yeah, vim is better :) (let's change the nowaday usual trolling about systemd and go back to good old traditional trolls :p) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

systemd log messages during boot (Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd)

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 22.07.2014 18:24, schrieb The Wanderer: As far as I can see, there is no way to get init-system log messages without also getting kernel log messages Of course there is. Might help if you actually tried it before commenting on it? The systemd.* specific flags override the global quiet

Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Why? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/curt And your point is? He's being Curt. And I'm being Bannister, going that extra mile (in under four minutes). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Erwan David
Le 22/07/2014 18:24, The Wanderer a écrit : On 07/22/2014 11:56 AM, Erwan David wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 05:25:22PM CEST, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org said: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Erwan David wrote: I lokked at it. I do not know how to remove this quiet on command line which

Re: New 64bit installation: Exim4 Send to Root

2014-07-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 02:53:43PM +0300, David Baron wrote: Logcheck, rkhunter and some others send their email notifications to root. Exim4 does no allow emails to root. So root gets aliased and a couple of other places are set so that the emails go to another user. I brought the

Re: systemd log messages during boot (Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd)

2014-07-22 Thread Erwan David
Le 22/07/2014 18:59, Michael Biebl a écrit : Am 22.07.2014 18:24, schrieb The Wanderer: As far as I can see, there is no way to get init-system log messages without also getting kernel log messages Of course there is. Might help if you actually tried it before commenting on it? The

Re: mutt can't send mail (Interrupted system call)

2014-07-22 Thread Brian
On Tue 22 Jul 2014 at 13:50:13 +, Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Tony Baldwin to...@myownsite.me wrote: Ultimately, that's what I'd like to determine, but have so far not been able to. The error is too vague (Interrupted System Call), and all the googling and duckgoing and ixquicking has

wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-22 Thread Paul Scott
Hi All, I have a sid system on this laptop that I keep updated. A week or two ago an update broke my ability to connect to the Internet through wireless access points. I am now connected wirelessly to my server with ssh and can access the Internet. route gives me: Destination Gateway

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-22 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:04:16 -0700 Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com wrote: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface default * 0.0.0.0 U 1002 00 eth0 default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG1024 00

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-22 Thread laurent debian
Le 22/07/2014 14:30, B a écrit : On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:04:16 -0700 Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com wrote: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface default * 0.0.0.0 U 1002 00 eth0 default 192.168.0.1

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Paul Scott a écrit : I have a sid system on this laptop that I keep updated. A week or two ago an update broke my ability to connect to the Internet through wireless access points. I am now connected wirelessly to my server with ssh and can access the Internet. route gives me:

Re: New 64bit installation: Exim4 Send to Root

2014-07-22 Thread Brian
On Tue 22 Jul 2014 at 17:25:35 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 02:53:43PM +0300, David Baron wrote: Logcheck, rkhunter and some others send their email notifications to root. Exim4 does no allow emails to root. So root gets aliased and a couple of other places

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-22 Thread Paul Scott
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 08:30:19PM +0200, B wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:04:16 -0700 Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com wrote: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface default * 0.0.0.0 U 1002 00 eth0 default

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:01 AM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 07/22/2014 10:34 AM, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: So it seems there is a quiet on the default command line, which does not mean same thing when using systemd

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-22 Thread Paul Scott
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 08:36:04PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Paul Scott a écrit : I have a sid system on this laptop that I keep updated. A week or two ago an update broke my ability to connect to the Internet through wireless access points. I am now connected wirelessly to my

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 22 July 2014 17:29:11 The Wanderer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 12:16 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:35:58 Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you get the Mr. from? I can't see

Re: mutt can't send mail (Interrupted system call)

2014-07-22 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 06:50:54PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Tue 22 Jul 2014 at 13:50:13 +, Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Tony Baldwin to...@myownsite.me wrote: Ultimately, that's what I'd like to determine, but have so far not been able to. The error is too vague (Interrupted System

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-22 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:19:12 -0700 Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com wrote: No change. Also set a DHCP server up (link-local shouldn't be there). I am using isc-dhcp-client. Ok, but is there a functional DHCP _server_ on your LAN? Join your /etc/network/interfaces -- Nikos : if theree

Re: Is xhost +si:localuser:root safe?

2014-07-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2014, 17:48:24 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: To be able to save/restore the XKB keymap in a /etc/pm/sleep.d script (as a workaround for Debian bug 633849), xkbcomp needs to have access to the display. The simplest solution I've found is a xhost +si:localuser:root in my

solved Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-22 Thread Paul Scott
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:56:55PM +0200, B wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:19:12 -0700 Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com wrote: No change. Also set a DHCP server up (link-local shouldn't be there). I am using isc-dhcp-client. Ok, but is there a functional DHCP _server_ on

Re: VLC error polluting terminal ( was: Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? ) )

2014-07-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 22 iul 14, 12:28:20, The Wanderer wrote: The trouble is that you didn't then change the Subject line, so less-well-behaved mail clients will still sort it as part of the same thread, and even for people who use better ones the message is still being presented as being about the

Re: systemd log messages during boot (Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd)

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 22.07.2014 19:22, schrieb Erwan David: Le 22/07/2014 18:59, Michael Biebl a écrit : Am 22.07.2014 18:24, schrieb The Wanderer: As far as I can see, there is no way to get init-system log messages without also getting kernel log messages Of course there is. Might help if you actually

Respond to the claims agent

2014-07-22 Thread UN
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Using the nuoveau driver, Iceweasel crashes.

2014-07-22 Thread John R Song
I need help to diagnose and hopefully solve the problem detailed below. I recently installed xfce running jessie. In place of the nvidia driver nouveau is used. Everything went fine for three days then the system started crashing - frozen computer, weird striped screen. This happened at first

Re: [help-cfengine] init spawning multiple cf-execd processes at once

2014-07-22 Thread Brian Bennett
cf-execd is the scheduler that is responsible for executing the agent (cf-agent) at the scheduled intervals (by default 5 every minutes). By default cf-agent will start cf-execd, cf-serverd and cf-monitord if they aren't running. Instead of putting cf-execd in inittab you could add a cron job

Proper place for pulse-audio configuration

2014-07-22 Thread George Shuklin
Good day. Where is a proper place for pulseaudio configuration options, if pulseaudio is starting under user? I need to load module-native-protocol-tcp. Is there any well-known special config for user's pusleaudio? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: mutt can't send mail (Interrupted system call)

2014-07-22 Thread Brian
On Tue 22 Jul 2014 at 22:41:31 +0200, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 06:50:54PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Tue 22 Jul 2014 at 13:50:13 +, Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Tony Baldwin to...@myownsite.me wrote: Ultimately, that's what I'd like to determine, but have so far

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 04:34 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2014 17:29:11 The Wanderer wrote: Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Seemed obvious enough to me, but I'm not necessarily a typical audience. I got lost at Have you undergone a personality

Re: Nouveau Resume from Suspend/Hibernate Screen Corruption

2014-07-22 Thread Dan Sommers
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:59:08 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2014-07-22 05:29:48 +, Dan Sommers wrote: I just upgraded from the proprietary nvidia video driver to nouveau, and I wouldn't call that an upgrade (except that nouveau is free). I feel a little forced into it. After a

Iceape and Debian 7.x

2014-07-22 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. Is a .deb package of iceape or seamonky, available for Debian 7.x (amd64)? I have not been able to find one. Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep

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