Re: bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL

2014-09-15 Thread andre_debian
On Sunday 14 September 2014 14:47:28 Jean-Marc wrote: français Le «ç» en hiéroglyphes, c'est typique d'un problème UTF8 affiché en iso8859. L'UTF8 code les caractères avec plusieurs octets, comme le «ç». grep -v ^# /etc/locale.gen : fr_FR ISO-8859-1 fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 La liste des

[HS] touches flèches qui ne fonctionnent plus

2014-09-15 Thread andre_debian
Sur un PC portable ACER 7741G, de 3 ans d'âge, d'un seul coup, les touches flèches horizontales et verticales, ne fonctionnent plus. Avec la touche Fn, elles servent aussi à augmenter et diminuer la luminosité de l'écran + hauts-parleurs. Or, elles restent bloquer sur ces fonctions, dès le

Re: bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL

2014-09-15 Thread D. Barbier
Le 13 septembre 2014 14:37, andre_debian a écrit : [...] Si je mets ce codage : fr_FR.ISO-8859-15, j'ai ce message d'erreur. [...] C'est normal, pour que ça marche, il faut avoir sélectionné l'option fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15 de « dpkg-reconfigure locales ». Denis -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste

Re: [HS] touches flèches qui ne fonctionnent plus

2014-09-15 Thread Jacques Lav!gnotte.
Le 15/09/2014 12:04, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : S'agit-il d'une panne du PC (clavier) Tu peux brancher un clavier USB pour voir. Merci. André Jacques -- GnuPg : C8F5B1E3 WeUsePGP Because privacy matters http://weusepgp.info/ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une

Re: [HS] touches flèches qui ne fonctionnent plus

2014-09-15 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 15 September 2014 13:21:48 Jacques Lav!gnotte. wrote: Le 15/09/2014 12:04, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : S'agit-il d'une panne du PC (clavier) Tu peux brancher un clavier USB pour voir. Très bonne idée : avec un clavier externe USB, les touches flèches fonctionnent

Re: Jessie Pb suite à mise à jour : Système non complètement opérationnel

2014-09-15 Thread phep
Salut, Le problème est malheureusement répertorié dans un rapport de bug (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=759745). Pour l'instant le seul contournement semble être de passer de sysvinit à systemd-init. C'est pour ça qu'une install de jessie résoud le problème, puisque

Re: [HS] touches flèches qui ne fonctionnent plus

2014-09-15 Thread •‿•
Le 15 septembre 2014 14:13, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Monday 15 September 2014 13:21:48 Jacques Lav!gnotte. wrote: Le 15/09/2014 12:04, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : S'agit-il d'une panne du PC (clavier) Tu peux brancher un clavier USB pour voir. Très bonne idée

Re: [HS] touches flèches qui ne fonctionnent plus

2014-09-15 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 15 September 2014 14:19:20 (•‿•) Dhénin Jean-Jacques wrote: Le 15 septembre 2014 14:13, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Monday 15 September 2014 13:21:48 Jacques Lav!gnotte. wrote: Le 15/09/2014 12:04, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : S'agit-il d'une panne du PC

Re: bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL

2014-09-15 Thread David - DCPC
De manière générale n'est-il pas plus simple (voir recommandé) de tout passer en UTF8 ? appli, système et config ? -- fr.FR_utf8 Le 15 septembre 2014 12:05, D. Barbier bou...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 13 septembre 2014 14:37, andre_debian a écrit : [...] Si je mets ce codage : fr_FR.ISO-8859-15,

Re: [HS] touches flèches qui ne fonctionnent plus

2014-09-15 Thread Vincent Besse
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:45:44 +0200 andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote: On Monday 15 September 2014 14:19:20 (•‿•) Dhénin Jean-Jacques wrote: Le 15 septembre 2014 14:13, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Monday 15 September 2014 13:21:48 Jacques Lav!gnotte. wrote: Le 15/09/2014

Re: [HS] touches flèches qui ne fonctionnent plus

2014-09-15 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 15 September 2014 15:31:27 Vincent Besse wrote: Tu peux brancher un clavier USB pour voir. Très bonne idée : avec un clavier externe USB, les touches flèches fonctionnent parfaitement, mais avec le clavier du portable, toujours non. Maintenant qu'en déduire ? :

greffon décodeur MPEG-4 DivX

2014-09-15 Thread Klaus Becker
Salut, ma question concerne Doudoulinux, basé sur Debian. Je voudrais montrer à ma fille des vidéos *.avi (ce sont des *.mpg recodés avec Encode), mais je reçois un message comme quoi il manque un greffon décodeur MPEG-4 DivX. Je ne sais plus quel lecteur vidéo est installé sur Doudoulinux,

Re: greffon décodeur MPEG-4 DivX

2014-09-15 Thread Klaus Becker
Le Monday 15 September 2014, 17:49:17 Klaus Becker a écrit : Salut, ma question concerne Doudoulinux, basé sur Debian. Je voudrais montrer à ma fille des vidéos *.avi (ce sont des *.mpg recodés avec Encode), mais je reçois un message comme quoi il manque un greffon décodeur MPEG-4 DivX.

smbpasswd change le mot de passe général

2014-09-15 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Bonsoir, Il y avait longtemps (2 ans ?) que je n'avais utilisé smbpasswd. Quel ne fut ma surprise de découvrir qu'il change pas seulement le mot de passe samba mais aussi le mot de passe général d'un utilisateur comme le fait passwd. Je ne me souvenais pas de ça avant. Est-ce normal, chers

Re: smbpasswd change le mot de passe général

2014-09-15 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Alain Rpnpif rpn...@free.fr writes: Il y avait longtemps (2 ans ?) que je n'avais utilisé smbpasswd. Quel ne fut ma surprise de découvrir qu'il change pas seulement le mot de passe samba mais aussi le mot de passe général d'un utilisateur comme le fait passwd. Je ne me souvenais pas de ça

Re: smbpasswd change le mot de passe général

2014-09-15 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 15 September 2014 19:00:46 Alain Rpnpif wrote: Il y avait longtemps (2 ans ?) que je n'avais utilisé smbpasswd. Quel ne fut ma surprise de découvrir qu'il change pas seulement le mot de passe samba mais aussi le mot de passe général d'un utilisateur comme le fait passwd. Je ne me

Re: greffon décodeur MPEG-4 DivX

2014-09-15 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le lundi 15 septembre 2014, Klaus Becker a écrit... J'ai ensuite tenté # apt-get install totem-plugins totem-xine parce que totem est installé sur Doudou, mais là, je reçois toujours le même message d'erreur. Sous Jessie, je pense que ce serait `aptitude install

Re: OT: Serviio sobre Debian

2014-09-15 Thread Debian GMail
El 14/09/14 a las 21:57, Roberto Quiñones escibió: El 14-09-2014 a las #4, JavierDebian escribió: El 14/09/14 16:13, Roberto Quiñones escribió: El sep 14, 2014 3:52 PM, JavierDebian javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com mailto:javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com escribió: Para no molestar en la

Re: ¿Memoria ram reservada? o otroa cosa debian 7.x

2014-09-15 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 12:58:50 -0430, Vincent Romero escribió: Buenas tardes (ese html...) Actualmente presento un problema con Debian 7 elcual es el siguiente: Al momento del arranque del sistema, el servidor debian empieza a reservar se prodria decir asi, memoria ram, realmente reserva 8

Re: OT: Serviio sobre Debian

2014-09-15 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:48:19 -0300, JavierDebian escribió: Para no molestar en la lista, por favor, por privado, alguien que haya hecho funcionar Serviio con un TV Sony Bravia. ¿Y no prefieres alguna alternativa que sea de código abierto?

Re: reportando un bug

2014-09-15 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:30:00 -0500, DACD escribió: Hola qué tal. Me he dado cuenta de que al trabajar con dos pantallas diferentes (la integrada del portátil y una pantalla externa), al colocar la externa como secundaria ocurría un error en la primaria (portátil), porque se veía una franja

Re: [OT]App de música en Android no funciona.

2014-09-15 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:20:03 -0300, Roberto Quiñones escribió: (...) los que han respondido con ánimo de ayudar lo único que hacen es pasarse por la raja las normas de la lista. Dijo aquél que manda mensajes con formato html. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [OT] Re: ¿Yowsup desaparecera con el tiempo?

2014-09-15 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:30:10 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: 2014-09-14 10:14 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:18:55 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: Lo marco como OT y corrijo el html. Listeros: Mi pregunta es ¿WhatsApp busca eliminar todo aquello que se pueda

Re: [OT]App de música en Android no funciona.

2014-09-15 Thread Roberto Quiñones
El sep 15, 2014 10:55 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:20:03 -0300, Roberto Quiñones escribió: (...) los que han respondido con ánimo de ayudar lo único que hacen es pasarse por la raja las normas de la lista. Dijo aquél que manda mensajes con formato

Re: OT: Serviio sobre Debian

2014-09-15 Thread Debian GMail
El 15/09/14 a las 10:40, Camaleón escibió: El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:48:19 -0300, JavierDebian escribió: Para no molestar en la lista, por favor, por privado, alguien que haya hecho funcionar Serviio con un TV Sony Bravia. ¿Y no prefieres alguna alternativa que sea de código abierto?

Re: [OT]App de música en Android no funciona.

2014-09-15 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:37:33 -0300, Roberto Quiñones escribió: El sep 15, 2014 10:55 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:20:03 -0300, Roberto Quiñones escribió: (...) los que han respondido con ánimo de ayudar lo único que hacen es pasarse por la raja las

Re: OT: Serviio sobre Debian

2014-09-15 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:45:44 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: El 15/09/14 a las 10:40, Camaleón escibió: El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:48:19 -0300, JavierDebian escribió: Para no molestar en la lista, por favor, por privado, alguien que haya hecho funcionar Serviio con un TV Sony Bravia. ¿Y no

Re: OT: Serviio sobre Debian

2014-09-15 Thread Debian GMail
El 15/09/14 a las 12:45, Camaleón escibió: El Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:45:44 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: ¿Y no estaría más orgulloso tu amigo de usar software libre? El fin de semana probaremos media-tomb. Lo de serviio, es por que lo recomiendan para Sony, que son los TV con los que

Re: [OT]App de música en Android no funciona.

2014-09-15 Thread Felix Perez
El día 15 de septiembre de 2014, 11:37, Roberto Quiñones robe...@acshell.net escribió: El sep 15, 2014 10:55 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:20:03 -0300, Roberto Quiñones escribió: (...) los que han respondido con ánimo de ayudar lo único que hacen es

Re: [OT]App de música en Android no funciona.

2014-09-15 Thread Roberto Quiñones
El sep 15, 2014 11:52 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:37:33 -0300, Roberto Quiñones escribió: El sep 15, 2014 10:55 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:20:03 -0300, Roberto Quiñones escribió: (...) los que han

Como Actualizar Repo Debian 7

2014-09-15 Thread Frank Andres Sanches Calzada
Como Actualizar Repo Debian 7 -- FSC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/fb520cd04091ae36dd6ec43adb251...@cristino.azcuba.cu

Error al instalar FFMPEG y MENCODER

2014-09-15 Thread Debia Linux
Listeros: He tenido problemas severos con ffmpeg, nunca he tenido problemas para instalar tanto este como mencoder. siempre utilizo la herramienta apt-get install ffmpeg mencoder La uso y sin problemas, todo se instala. Pero ahora al instalar Jessie (Version Testing) ejecuto apt-get

Re: Error al instalar FFMPEG y MENCODER

2014-09-15 Thread Debia Linux
2014-09-15 14:59 GMT-05:00 Debia Linux debianer...@gmail.com: Listeros: He tenido problemas severos con ffmpeg, nunca he tenido problemas para instalar tanto este como mencoder. siempre utilizo la herramienta apt-get install ffmpeg mencoder La uso y sin problemas, todo se instala. Pero

Re: Error al instalar FFMPEG y MENCODER

2014-09-15 Thread Gerardo Diez García
El 15/09/14 22:05, Debia Linux escribió: 2014-09-15 14:59 GMT-05:00 Debia Linux debianer...@gmail.com: Listeros: He tenido problemas severos con ffmpeg, nunca he tenido problemas para instalar tanto este como mencoder. siempre utilizo la herramienta apt-get install ffmpeg mencoder La

Re: Como Actualizar Repo Debian 7

2014-09-15 Thread Carlos Zuniga
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Frank Andres Sanches Calzada frank...@cristino.azcuba.cu wrote: Como Actualizar Repo Debian 7 apt-get update O quiéres ser más específico? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Propuesta de creación de lista para los OffTopics

2014-09-15 Thread Etemenanki
Angel Claudio Alvarez wrote: El Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:32:01 +0200 Etemenanki etemena...@openmailbox.org escribió: Hola, (creo que me voy a meter en un lío, pero ahí va...) si Dado que se están incumpliendo las normas con los offtopics y hay gente que se ha quejado, propongo la

Re: Skicka svar till listan från GMails Webmail

2014-09-15 Thread Per Andersson
2014-09-14 16:33 GMT+02:00 Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se: On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 15:10 +0200, Rolf Edlund wrote: Den 14 september 2014 14:58 skrev Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se: Problemet är väl snarast GMails. Eftersom väldigt många använder GMail, så tycker jag att det måste vara flera som

Re: systemd

2014-09-15 Thread jan
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:44:15 +0200 Ivar Walfridsson i...@wibmc.se wrote: 2014-09-13 20:43, Anton Eliasson skrev: Den 2014-09-13 12:36, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se skrev: En kompis frågade vad jag tyckte om systemd, han upplyste mig att det är bråk om systemd. Systemd? Blev mitt svar.

Re: systemd

2014-09-15 Thread Olof Johansson
On 2014-09-15 16:51 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote: Ej portabel utanför x86. Varför? Verkar ju jättebra nu när folk börjar använda ARM i allt större utsträckning. Det är det visst. Undrar om journalisten gissat :-). root@kompis:~# uname -a Linux kompis 3.14.0 #1 SMP Fri Sep 12 16:44:38

iGuardian

2014-09-15 Thread Rolf Edlund
Tittade på senaste programmet av LAS. Där hade dom en produkt som hette iGuardian, som jag tyckte lät väldigt smart. Produkten bygger på Snort, och kunde användas på många olika sätt. Äsl så är den bara i Beta stadiet. Om någon vill se när LAS pratar om den, så finns den här: Och börjar ca 2 min

Nordic Debian meetup at FSCONS Göteborg, Sweden 31 oct - 2 nov

2014-09-15 Thread Per Andersson
(This is a cross-post to nordic Debian User lists.) Hi! In about 1,5 months FSCONS (Free Society Conference and Nordic Summit) takes place in Göteborg, Sweden; the actual dates are 31 october to 2 november. [0] I have previously written about this to debian-project and to those Debian

Debian på Acer Aspire E 11 E3-111-C6SR

2014-09-15 Thread Flemming Bjerke
Jeg købte en billig til Acer Aspire (2000 kr) beregnet på win8, og den er da også pænt syltet ind i MS. Det lykkedes mig dog (F2 ind i bios og så til boot for at boote fra usb) at få installeret ubuntu og kubuntu, og især kubuntu fungerede fint - undtagen ved halt og hibernate=død ... boot

Re: Debian på Acer Aspire E 11 E3-111-C6SR

2014-09-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Flemming Bjerke (2014-09-15 11:32:51) Jeg købte en billig til Acer Aspire (2000 kr) beregnet på win8, og den er da også pænt syltet ind i MS. Det lykkedes mig dog (F2 ind i bios og så til boot for at boote fra usb) at få installeret ubuntu og kubuntu, og især kubuntu fungerede fint

Nordic Debian meetup at FSCONS Göteborg, Sweden 31 oct - 2 nov

2014-09-15 Thread Per Andersson
(This is a cross-post to nordic Debian User lists.) Hi! In about 1,5 months FSCONS (Free Society Conference and Nordic Summit) takes place in Göteborg, Sweden; the actual dates are 31 october to 2 november. [0] I have previously written about this to debian-project and to those Debian

Ativar layer 7

2014-09-15 Thread Sérgio Abrantes Junior
Olá pessoal, Para ativar o layer 7 somente mesmo recompilando ou existe alguma outra alternativa? Minha preocupação é sempre ficar recompilando para um novo kernel e reiniciar a máquina para validar. Até! Sérgio Abrantes

[SOLVED]Re: flakey wifi access

2014-09-15 Thread mett
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 12:13:14 -0700 tom arnall kloro2...@gmail.com wrote: SOLVED! i use wicd and i changed a preference: preferencesexternal programs and change 'auto' to 'dhclient' Mett, is this the equivalent of what you suggest doing manually? thanks everyone for your help. Tom

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/09/2014, Chen Wei weichen...@icloud.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: .xsession-errors, which is currently sitting at about 740MB, and has been growing in the last hour. entries from before the current boot session) entries, so as to reduce the file

Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 14 September 2014 19:42:40 Steve Litt wrote: Every time you tell one of us to keep silent, three more of us speak up. I don't know whether we're a minority, but if you and your cohorts keep shushing us, we just might be the majority pretty soon. I wasn't telling anyone to keep

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread saint
Bartosz Olender writes: Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding that GNU is *Not* Unix May I recall that most of the systemd-haters knows the recursive expansion of GNU? and because of that we should have the freedom to create better solutions, rather than

Re: server backup

2014-09-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:56:35AM -0600, Glenn English wrote: What do you server admins use for backup? Personally (not professionally), I only back up user data, and use a puppet recipe to configure my servers, so that if I need to restore them I can do so by running the puppet script on a

Re: server backup

2014-09-15 Thread Tim Meusel
On 15.09.2014 09:44, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:56:35AM -0600, Glenn English wrote: What do you server admins use for backup? I use duply for data backups. Pros: - push backups via ssh - encrypted with gpg key1 - signed with gpg key2 - built in file checksumming my

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-15 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:46:43 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de napísal: Slavko li...@slavino.sk writes: BTW, if someone is interested in, while this investigation i generated graphs of dependencies on some systemd packages on my system, they will be accessible for some time here:

Re: systemd vs debian soc (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-15 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:46:51 -0300 Andre N Batista andrenbati...@gmail.com napísal: The way I see it, there is a large amount of doubt on who's insterested in systemd and there is no doubt that many users are being forced into using it and, according to your recent post on the

Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-15 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/15/2014 03:27 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 14 September 2014 19:42:40 Steve Litt wrote: Every time you tell one of us to keep silent, three more of us speak up. I don't know whether we're a minority, but if you and your cohorts keep shushing us, we just might be the majority pretty

Re: Mails mails

2014-09-15 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 01:38:53AM -0400, Björn Djisktra wrote: Is this gonna work? Please, help. debian-user is not an arbitrary language parser. Try writing your code to a file and then applying the compiler/interpreter appropriate to the language you're writing in to that file. If there

disabled login prompt problem

2014-09-15 Thread Michael Fothergill
Dear Debian folks, I am running Debian Testing on an AMD64 box. I was trying to update it with new packages and got dependency problems. I got as far as choosing this PAM option from a list but could not find the list at the terminal and eventually had to shutdown and reboot. When I did this I

Re: Re: no soundcards found after Debian upgrade

2014-09-15 Thread Menashè Eliezer
Thanks Raffaele, You are right, once I'm loading manually the snd-usb-audio, all is fine. So, my work-around right now is running after each restart: $ sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel snd-usb-audio I'm very pleased to have back sound at my computer, thanks to this mailing list! As for .asound

Re: no soundcards found after Debian upgrade

2014-09-15 Thread Raffaele Morelli
On 15/09/14 at 12:43pm, Menashè Eliezer wrote: Thanks Raffaele, You are right, once I'm loading manually the snd-usb-audio, all is fine. So, my work-around right now is running after each restart: $ sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel snd-usb-audio You don't have to do it manually, just add those two

Re: Re: no soundcards found after Debian upgrade

2014-09-15 Thread Menashè Eliezer
Both of them are already in /etc/modules and /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf No effect... -- With kind regards, Menashè -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: disabled login prompt problem

2014-09-15 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Michael Fothergill michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear Debian folks, I am running Debian Testing on an AMD64 box. I was trying to update it with new packages and got dependency problems. I got as far as choosing this PAM option from a list but

Re: Mails mails

2014-09-15 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 01:38:53AM -0400, Björn Djisktra wrote: Is this gonna work? Please, help. debian-user is not an arbitrary language parser. Try writing your code to a file and then applying the

Re: preseeding: disable systemd

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Read
On 15/09/14 01:46, Marty wrote: (not OP but) I require the exclusion all packages by their dev teams from my computer. Is that clear enough? Linus doesn't trust them. Why should I? Just to be sure you're aware of what you're asking for: that includes udev, which: (a) in Debian is a hard

Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-15 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/15/2014 3:27 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 14 September 2014 19:42:40 Steve Litt wrote: Every time you tell one of us to keep silent, three more of us speak up. I don't know whether we're a minority, but if you and your cohorts keep shushing us, we just might be the majority pretty

Re: Re: no soundcards found after Debian upgrade

2014-09-15 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014-09-15 14:15 GMT+02:00 Menashè Eliezer melie...@ogs.trieste.it: Both of them are already in /etc/modules and /etc/modules-load.d/modules. conf No effect... ​well, I am not a kernel doctor but something is clearly wrong with it

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Doug
On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote: Bartosz Olender writes: Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding that GNU is *Not* Unix May I recall that most of the systemd-haters knows the recursive expansion of GNU? Most of us are no interested in what

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: Most of us are no interested in what Stallman or whoever created back in 1995. We don't think of Linux as GNU. Ahhh, so you are the declared and _democratically elected_ spokesman of, let's say 80% of the Linux community

Re: preseeding: disable systemd

2014-09-15 Thread Reco
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 01:55:01PM +0100, Martin Read wrote: On 15/09/14 01:46, Marty wrote: (not OP but) I require the exclusion all packages by their dev teams from my computer. Is that clear enough? Linus doesn't trust them. Why should I? Just to be sure you're aware of what you're

Re: disabled login prompt problem

2014-09-15 Thread Michael Fothergill
I got as far as choosing this PAM option from a list but could not find the list at the terminal and eventually had to shutdown and reboot. Woops. Many thanks for taking the time to respond to my query on this When I did this I got a login prompt that doesn't ask for a password. In

Re: disabled login prompt problem

2014-09-15 Thread Michael Fothergill
Booting the DVD, dropping to rescue mode, and mounting the hard disk would allow you a look at the logs to see what it was trying to do and how far it got when you couldn't move ahead. I did look at the logs as you suggested but maybe not all of the ones that would be helpful here. By the way,

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Joe
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote: Bartosz Olender writes: Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding that GNU is *Not* Unix May I recall that most of the systemd-haters

[ANNOUNCE] apt-offline 1.5

2014-09-15 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
I am very pleased to announce the release of apt-offline, version 1.5. In version 1.4, the offline bug report functionality had to be dropped. In version 1.5, it is back again. apt-offline now uses the new Debian native BTS library. Thanks to its developers, this library is much more slim and

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Bartosz Olender
W dniu 15.09.2014 19:39, Joe pisze: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote: Bartosz Olender writes: Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding that GNU is *Not* Unix May I recall

Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-15 Thread Peter Nieman
On 13/09/14 22:46, lee wrote: I'd be happy to see some support. I cannot speak for the users or for the free software community. You users, and the community members, whoever they are, need to speak as well. OK, so I'll speak as well. :-) But first of all I'd like to thank you and some

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:45 +0200 Bartosz Olender bartek.olen...@gmail.com wrote: I am not defending systemd programmers but, could you clarify what do you exactly mean by bad programming practices? Creating weird situations about things that used to work well for _years_ (eg: the kernel

jessie installation

2014-09-15 Thread Adrián Orellana
Hi, I'm trying to install jessie amd64 and with the installer I got two important issues: 1st: when it asked me about non free drivers, I told him that there were in an external device (usb), but it never saw after several attemps. 2nd. I need to manually partition my disk as it have another

Creating a forum for systemd debate (was Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires

2014-09-15 Thread Joel Roth
gvfs)) Reply-To: Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com In-Reply-To: 5416e94a.8070...@attglobal.net Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 9/15/2014 3:27 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 14 September 2014 19:42:40 Steve Litt wrote: Every time you tell one of us to keep silent, three more of us speak up. I don't know

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Joe
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:45 +0200 Bartosz Olender bartek.olen...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 15.09.2014 19:39, Joe pisze: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote: Bartosz Olender writes: Therefore I want to

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/15/2014 11:33 AM, B wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: Most of us are no interested in what Stallman or whoever created back in 1995. We don't think of Linux as GNU. Ahhh, so you are the declared and _democratically elected_ spokesman of,

Re: Creating a forum for systemd debate

2014-09-15 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014, Joel Roth wrote: I think it should be possible to find or create a forum for those who are concerned about this issue. I know that I would subscribe. Please create one and subscribe. It's trivial to create mailing lists on lists.alioth.debian.org, or you can use non-Debian

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 15. September 2014, 21:55:29 schrieb Joe: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:45 +0200 Bartosz Olender bartek.olen...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 15.09.2014 19:39, Joe pisze: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM,

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:16:32 -0400 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I see only that he represented his views, which also happens to coincide with my own. Please, if you have to label someone, you've lost your argument's points from the get-go. :) Ric I don't wanna stigmatize

Re: Error with Latest Google Chrome Stable

2014-09-15 Thread Kenneth Jacker
sven Downgrade to the latest working version. Luckily, I was able to find a couple of earlier Chrome versions in /var/cache/apt/archives/ in order to downgrade. What if I'd removed all the archived 'apt' files to save space? This leads to the following question ... Is there a known Google

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 23:48:02 +0200 Martin Steigerwald sent: I have mixed thoughts and feelings about systemd… but on the other hand I think discussing this further here… is… a waste of time – as it won´t change anything. I'm uncertain if that's correct. It certainly highlights some features

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread John Hasler
Charlie writes: Though I'm not a programmer and really know very little about Debian [as someone once said - the lifetime learning experience] imagine the installer could present a choice of systemd or sys** whatever? The wiki could point out advantages and disadvantages of both? That is

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-15 Thread lee
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com writes: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:54:56 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Can you have, say, KDE on Gentoo without systemd? Without systemd means *all* of systemd, like systemd-login0 etc.. But in answer to your question, my official answer is I

Let's have a vote! (was: Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs))

2014-09-15 Thread lee
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: On Saturday 13 September 2014 21:46:31 lee wrote: You users, and the community members, whoever they are, need to speak as well. Perhaps, just perhaps, many of them don't agree. Well, I've now seen two people speaking up in response, and 0% of them

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:24:10 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com writes: And who knows what kind of problems you run into when you switch to some BSD. Are there NVIDIA drivers for some BSD? Is everything I'm using now available for some BSD? My

Re: Creating a forum for systemd debate

2014-09-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:15:59 -0700 Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote: Yes, please. The pro/anti systemd discussion isn't on topic for this mailing list. Precisely. Bugs and user difficulties produced by innumerable dependencies have nothing to do with Debian-Users, it's merely an

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Joel Roth
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 06:08:49PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Charlie writes: Though I'm not a programmer and really know very little about Debian [as someone once said - the lifetime learning experience] imagine the installer could present a choice of systemd or sys** whatever? The wiki

KVM Guest - Best Display Resolution

2014-09-15 Thread Chris
Dear All, what settings do you use in KVM for Linux guests? The resolution with VNC / VGA is 1024x768 only. If I choose Spice / QXL the resolution is better, but colors aren't displayed properly and some letters are missing! In the Debian guest I installed the packages xserver-xspice and

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:38:18 -1000 Joel Roth sent: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 06:08:49PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Charlie writes: Though I'm not a programmer and really know very little about Debian [as someone once said - the lifetime learning experience] imagine the installer could

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-15 Thread Paul Trevethan
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:07:48 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/09/2014, Chen Wei weichen...@icloud.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: .xsession-errors, which is currently sitting at about 740MB, and has been growing in the last hour.

trying to remove wicd

2014-09-15 Thread tom arnall
I want to get wicd off my system, but am having a problem. All the installer utilities say that it's not installed, but 'which' and other things tell a different story: root@debian:~# which wicd /usr/sbin/wicd root@debian:~# Also, in spite of the installer messages, there are lots of

Re: trying to remove wicd

2014-09-15 Thread Gary Dale
On 15/09/14 11:37 PM, tom arnall wrote: I want to get wicd off my system, but am having a problem. All the installer utilities say that it's not installed, but 'which' and other things tell a different story: root@debian:~# which wicd /usr/sbin/wicd root@debian:~# Also, in spite of the

Re: trying to remove wicd

2014-09-15 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:37:02 -0700 tom arnall kloro2...@gmail.com wrote: How do I get rid of the stuff? apt-get install wicd apt-get purge wicd -- Men94 : You've got MSN? Aerendil : No, but I have a STD if you want. Men94 : cool send it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-15 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-09-16 02:00 +0200, lee wrote: Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: On Saturday 13 September 2014 21:46:31 lee wrote: You users, and the community members, whoever they are, need to speak as well. Perhaps, just perhaps, many of them don't agree. Well, I've now seen two people

Re: KVM Guest - Best Display Resolution

2014-09-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:41:32AM +0200, Chris wrote: Dear All, what settings do you use in KVM for Linux guests? The resolution with VNC / VGA is 1024x768 only. If I choose Spice / QXL the resolution is better, but colors aren't displayed properly and some letters are missing! Try