[testing] erreur de mise à jour de libaudio2

2014-11-09 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Bonjour, Aujourd'hui la mise à jour de libaudio2 a échoué avec l'erreur suivante (synaptic): E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libaudio2_1.9.4-1+b1_amd64.deb: tentative de remplacement de « /usr/share/doc/libaudio2/changelog.Debian.gz », qui est différent d'autres instances du paquet libaudio2:amd64

Re: [testing] erreur de mise à jour de libaudio2

2014-11-09 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sun, 9 Nov 2014 12:50:08 +0100 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit: Bonjour, Aujourd'hui la mise à jour de libaudio2 a échoué avec l'erreur suivante (synaptic): E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libaudio2_1.9.4-1+b1_amd64.deb: tentative de remplacement de « 

Re: Pulseaudio et les alertes

2014-11-09 Thread andre_debian
Le 08/11/2014 22:40, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Tu dois pouvoir régler le son via un volume sur ton bureau, p. ex. kmix sous KDE, sinon le bouton du HP :-) On Saturday 08 November 2014 22:43:00 Alexis Brouste wrote: Ah, si seulement c'était aussi simple... J'ai beau mettre

Système de ticketing

2014-11-09 Thread Jean-Marc
Salut la liste, Je cherche un système de ticketing comme otrs ou request-tracker s'installant de manière native à partir de paquets fournis par Debian. Retour d'expérience ou commentaires bienvenus. D’avance merci. Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be P.S. désolé si c'est trop bruyant, je n'ai pas

Re: Système de ticketing

2014-11-09 Thread Johnny B
Salut ! Ben tu as tout dit : OTRS et RT ou GLPI ;) Pour Debian package otrs2 Quel est le besoin ? c'est surtout cela qui va définir le choix Enjoy ! On 11/09/2014 03:41 PM, Jean-Marc wrote: Salut la liste, Je cherche un système de ticketing comme otrs ou request-tracker s'installant de

Re: Système de ticketing

2014-11-09 Thread Jean-Marc
Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:33:50 +0100 Johnny B frozzensh...@gmail.com écrivait : Salut ! Ben tu as tout dit : OTRS et RT ou GLPI ;) Pour Debian package otrs2 Quel est le besoin ? c'est surtout cela qui va définir le choix Le besoin : quelque chose de simple pour max 10 utilisateurs.

DEBIAN SE CUELGAN TODOS LOS ESCRITORIOS

2014-11-09 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
buenos dias tras actualizar ayer el sistema debian jessie... ahora cuando inicio sesión no importa cual escritorio sea... lxde xfce gnome kde dejan de responder y me sale un cuadro como si se tratara de una aplicación de inicio de los escritorio en común que se cuelga el unico escritorio

Re: DEBIAN SE CUELGAN TODOS LOS ESCRITORIOS

2014-11-09 Thread Juan Lavieri
Hola Edward. Preguntas: ¿Se inicia el gdm o lo que uses para entrar al sistema vía gráfica? El 09/11/14 a las 09:45, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escibió: buenos dias tras actualizar ayer el sistema debian jessie... ahora cuando inicio sesión no importa cual escritorio sea... lxde xfce gnome

Re: DEBIAN SE CUELGAN TODOS LOS ESCRITORIOS

2014-11-09 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
si inicia el gdm luego lo cambie a kdmy tambien inicia el problema esta despues q me logueo en lo que aparece el escritorio no responde y salen un cuadro en todo el medio y ya... porlomenos en gnome si paso el mouse por la barra de arriba hac los efectos...pero mas nada no despliega menu ni naa

Re: DEBIAN SE CUELGAN TODOS LOS ESCRITORIOS

2014-11-09 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 09 Nov 2014 09:45:43 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: buenos dias Buenos sean, pero no hace falta GRITAR ;-) tras actualizar ayer el sistema debian jessie... ahora cuando inicio sesión no importa cual escritorio sea... lxde xfce gnome kde dejan de responder y me sale un

Re: DEBIAN SE CUELGAN TODOS LOS ESCRITORIOS

2014-11-09 Thread Juan Lavieri
El 09/11/14 a las 10:38, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escibió: si inicia el gdm luego lo cambie a kdmy tambien inicia el problema esta despues q me logueo en lo que aparece el escritorio no responde y salen un cuadro en todo el medio y ya... porlomenos en gnome si paso el mouse por la barra de

Re: DEBIAN SE CUELGAN TODOS LOS ESCRITORIOS

2014-11-09 Thread Juan Lavieri
El 09/11/14 a las 10:54, Camaleón escibió: El Sun, 09 Nov 2014 09:45:43 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: buenos dias Buenos sean, pero no hace falta GRITAR ;-) Vamos que comenzar un lindo domingo con semejante problema no es para menos :-) Saludos. tras actualizar ayer el

Re: DEBIAN SE CUELGAN TODOS LOS ESCRITORIOS

2014-11-09 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
saben cuando iniciaba normalmente en ese espacio aparecia en el espacio del medio un programa que tenia una lupa era con un dock (no se) Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Dividir la pantalla, o algo así, en entornos de escritorio en Debian

2014-11-09 Thread Miguel Matos
Saludos a la lista. Hace un largo rato que no hacía una petición porque no me había pasado nada extraño. Pero ahora hago una peculiar. Verán, en GNOME, si van a Herramientas del Sistema-Preferencias-Configuración del sistema, y luego van a Pantalla, pueden configurar la resolución y dividir la

Re: Dividir la pantalla, o algo así, en entornos de escritorio en Debian

2014-11-09 Thread Manolo Díaz
El domingo, 9 nov 2014 a las 18:13 horas (UTC+1), Miguel Matos escribió: Saludos a la lista. Hace un largo rato que no hacía una petición porque no me había pasado nada extraño. Pero ahora hago una peculiar. Verán, en GNOME, si van a Herramientas del Sistema-Preferencias-Configuración del

Re: Dividir la pantalla, o algo así, en entornos de escritorio en Debian

2014-11-09 Thread fernando sainz
El día 9 de noviembre de 2014, 18:57, Manolo Díaz diaz.man...@gmail.com escribió: El domingo, 9 nov 2014 a las 18:13 horas (UTC+1), Miguel Matos escribió: Saludos a la lista. Hace un largo rato que no hacía una petición porque no me había pasado nada extraño. Pero ahora hago una peculiar.

Re: Dividir la pantalla, o algo así, en entornos de escritorio en Debian

2014-11-09 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 09 Nov 2014 12:43:10 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió: Saludos a la lista. Hace un largo rato que no hacía una petición porque no me había pasado nada extraño. Pero ahora hago una peculiar. Verán, en GNOME, si van a Herramientas del Sistema-Preferencias-Configuración del sistema, y luego

Re: DEBIAN SE CUELGAN TODOS LOS ESCRITORIOS

2014-11-09 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 09 Nov 2014 12:13:53 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: saben cuando iniciaba normalmente en ese espacio aparecia en el espacio del medio un programa que tenia una lupa era con un dock (no se) Mejor si haces las pruebas que te hemos indicado y nos comentas los resultados :-)

Re: Dividir la pantalla, o algo así, en entornos de escritorio en Debian

2014-11-09 Thread Miguel Matos
El día 9 de noviembre de 2014, 13:49, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 09 Nov 2014 12:43:10 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió: Saludos a la lista. Hace un largo rato que no hacía una petición porque no me había pasado nada extraño. Pero ahora hago una peculiar. Verán, en GNOME, si van

Re: DEBIAN SE CUELGAN TODOS LOS ESCRITORIOS

2014-11-09 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
la verdad es que se que paquete esta jodien removi todo gnome e instale gnome-core nada mas y dejo de dar el error intale todos los paquetes que tenia antes y apareció de nuevo, así que deje gnome-core nada mas parte del procedimiento que seguí es: apt-get remove --purge $(dpkg

Re: DEBIAN SE CUELGAN TODOS LOS ESCRITORIOS

2014-11-09 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
esta es la lista de todos los que deje por fuera cual de esos puede causar daños tanto en kde lxde xfce no se dia-gnome gnome-api-docs gnome-audio gnome-boxes gnome-cards-data gnome-clocks gnome-commander gnome-commander:i386 gnome-desktop-data gnome-desktop-environment gnome-do gnome-do-plugins

[OT] monitor sansung no ocupa todo el ancho (franjas negras)

2014-11-09 Thread Rodolfo Edgar
Hola lista, disculpen que escriba por aqui, es que por aqui hay gente que sabe mucho tanto sobde debian y otros :) He formateado una pc que tenia windows 7 y le clone con clonezilla (hasta clonezilla no ocupa todo el ancho de la pantalla, muy raro nunca me pasó eso) la cosa es que puse un windows

Re: Best practise - hårdvarubyte

2014-11-09 Thread Joakim Roubert
On 2014-11-02 11:25, Jens Andersson wrote: Projektet att byta hårdvara för min server drar i långbänk. Gamla servern kör squeeze och har bara en hårddisk. Nya servern har jag planerat för mjukvaru-RAID. Oavsett hur du gör så kanske du kan ha nytta över den lathund jag har gjort till mig själv

Re: någon som har tid för en newbie

2014-11-09 Thread Joakim Roubert
On 2014-10-29 17:32, e...@erikkylin.net wrote: När jag installerade Debian så fick det blir med Lilo som väll har med bottning att göra, är det ett problem. Inget problem, LILO är prima. LILO är lite dinosaurie i sammanhanget; många kör GRUB eller andra, men jag gillar LILO eftersom den är

Erro no apt-get update

2014-11-09 Thread Wellington Mazoni
Boa tarde pessoal, Quando digito o comando no terminal apt-get update o programa faz a atualização, mas alguns repositórios dão erro, Vou postar abaixo meu arquivo source.lst: # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20140712-14:11]/ wheezy main deb

Re: Erro no apt-get update

2014-11-09 Thread P. J.
Queria saber de onde vcs tiram esses exemplos, tanta documentação bacana na wiki do debian sem falar no livro debian handbook do Hertzog[1] 1 - Repositório multimedia não é Oficial do Debian, 2 - Misturar versões squeeze(oldstable) e wheezy(stable) não é recomendável para iniciantes, caso vc se

Re: Erro no apt-get update

2014-11-09 Thread Enio Climaco Sales Junior
O repositório debian-multimedia não mais existe. Troque por: deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie main non-free. Sobre o comentário anterior, totalmente apoiado. Se estiver em dúvida qual repositório nacional usar, utilize o apt-spy (#apt-get install apt-spy ;apt-spy -d wheezy -s br) On

Re: Erro no apt-get update

2014-11-09 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
posta o arquivo /etc/resolve.conf , parece erro no dns. #Caso não tenha um dns põe o do google. nameserver 8.8.8.8 Caso queira o repositorio : http://www.deb-multimedia.org, tente trocar o nome squeeze por wheezy, isso é uma pratica comum quando os repositorios fazem um upgrade e não mantém o

Package system in odd state

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Hi List, I just did an apt-get upgrade with sid, and now need some extra help to patch up the pieces :-/ When I try to install something, I get a conflict that apt-get install -f doesn't handle. Can anyone suggest how to resolve this? Kind regards, Joel git:master ~ $ sudo apt-get install -f

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-09 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 08 Nov 2014, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -1000 Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote: Hi list, I need larger mouse pointers. I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong to the window manager.

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 05:38:59PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: What part of we don't want systemd on any of our systems don't you get? If we don't want it, we won't be testing it. There's still plenty of work to be done testing upgrade paths for sysvinit; improving systemd-shim; patching

Re: alsa-utils save / restore not working http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665

2014-11-09 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 06:12:32PM +1030, Arthur Marsh wrote: Pardon me, but I'm a bit frustrated on how to debug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665 does /var/run get saved across reboots? I would not expect so. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-5.13.html Where

Re: Problems with greylistd and exim and gmail

2014-11-09 Thread Joe
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:07:02 +1100 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2/11/2014 8:24 PM, Virgo Pärna wrote: Ok problem is solved. I did have invalid lines in file: like that 209.85.128/17 line. And exim

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 05:57:41PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: For some reason my network card bridging has failed after working properly for many years. My /etc/network/interfaces is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet manual auto br0 iface br0 inet static address

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 08.11.2014 23:57, schrieb Gary Dale: For some reason my network card bridging has failed after working properly for many years. My /etc/network/interfaces is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet manual auto br0 iface br0 inet static address 192.168.1.14

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 08:52:32PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: That the moaners have their way and have driven out a reallly good developer for daring to disagree with them. Unless he says otherwise, I do not think it is fait to attribute Joey's leaving to the moaners. The most likely explanation

Re: How *not* to concatenate my domain name?

2014-11-09 Thread Joe
On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 04:32:22 + (UTC) Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 20:05:05 +, Joe wrote: On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 18:49:50 + (UTC) Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: When I do a web search from my laptop, connected via wifi to my server

Re: [newbie] OpenVPN: {DNS, ping, ssh} work, HTTP fails

2014-11-09 Thread Mart van de Wege
Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com writes: * `ifconfig` shows a new entry=`tun0`, which looks correct * I can `ping` the server using either its real IP# or `10.8.0.1` * I can `ssh` to the server using either its real IP# or `10.8.0.1` * `nslookup www.whatismyip.com` gives correct results This

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X - SOLVED

2014-11-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 07:24:04 schrieb Joel Roth: On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 05:58:38PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 05:55:58 schrieb Joel Roth: On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 12:15:09PM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -1000

Doubt about the release-fitness of a package (gfax)

2014-11-09 Thread Ralph Aichinger
I just tried to install gfax (in sid), and it crashed on me just as described in bug 651160. This has been reported in 2011, is tagged help, and seems to go nowhere. What is the right way to suggest that this package is not ready for release (I do think if I am not the only one experiencing the

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 09 nov 14, 04:05:56, Hendrik Boom wrote: I've started to have trouble mounting the NTFS partition on my machine from Linux. No problem doing this in Windows, of course. I used to be able to mount it from the file manager after entering the root password. Starting a month or so

Re: Doubt about the release-fitness of a package (gfax)

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 12:12:52 +0100, Ralph Aichinger wrote: I just tried to install gfax (in sid), and it crashed on me just as described in bug 651160. This has been reported in 2011, is tagged help, and seems to go nowhere. What is the right way to suggest that this package is not

Re: [newbie] OpenVPN: {DNS, ping, ssh} work, HTTP fails

2014-11-09 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Tom Roche a écrit : My jumpbox/server firewall is currently set to forward everything, using `iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE` This rule doesn't forward anything, it just enables masquerading. IPv4 forwarding is enabled with sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=1.

SOLVED - Re: alsa-utils save / restore not working http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665

2014-11-09 Thread Arthur Marsh
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote on 09/11/14 20:04: Hi On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 06:12:32PM +1030, Arthur Marsh wrote: Pardon me, but I'm a bit frustrated on how to debug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665 does /var/run get saved across reboots? I would not expect so.

Re: mythtv fails to install

2014-11-09 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote: attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this error in the shell; sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 04:29:00 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: What I can see, xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc I also tried with xpdf.real - /usr/bin/xpdf.real - though I don't know what that is (xpdf.real refers to xpdf(1) as well) - same result. uname -a: Linux debian 3.16-2-amd64 #1

Re: mythtv fails to install

2014-11-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote: attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this error in the shell; sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:22:46 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 09 nov 14, 04:05:56, Hendrik Boom wrote: I've started to have trouble mounting the NTFS partition on my machine from Linux. No problem doing this in Windows, of course. I used to be able to mount it from the file manager

Set openbox to be mate default WM

2014-11-09 Thread David Kline
I'm sorry if there is a solution posted somewhere in the documentation. Google has spoiled me WRT to finding howtos and guides. My windows in mate looked terrible. I was wondering why themes weren't changing. I thought that the windows looked kind of gnome 3ish so I ran openbox --replace. I

Re: alsa-utils save / restore not working http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: Where are the state of the sound card(s) saved / restored? I don't use alsa-utils, but based on my understanding of the FHS, I'd expect somewhere under /var/lib/alsa-utils. But from reading the bug report, I'm led to believe it is /var/lib/alsa/asound.state

Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ At http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3t=118319 it is described as (for testing, without libsystemd0, it's pinned). Anybody know

Re: Multiple desktops in lightdm? -- SOLVED

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 03:27:39 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:15:51 +, Brian wrote: xdm can do it. Adapting its approach: Go to Seat configuration in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf. Uncomment [Seat:0] and after this line put xserver-command=/usr/bin/X :0 vt07

Ticketing Systems

2014-11-09 Thread Jean-Marc
Hi everybody, I am looking for a Ticketing System I can install using Debian packages. Something like otrs or request-tracker. Did some of you already experience one of them ? Advice / comments are welcome. Cheers, Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be P.S. my apologies if this is too noisy, I have no

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ Guess what? They have forum too. I bet they are avid to answer questions such

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: What I can see, xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc I also tried with xpdf.real - /usr/bin/xpdf.real - though I don't know what that is (xpdf.real refers to xpdf(1) as well) - same result. uname -a: Linux debian 3.16-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.3-2

Re: [newbie] OpenVPN: {DNS, ping, ssh} work, HTTP fails

2014-11-09 Thread Tom Roche
summary: I have a routing problem on the server side of the VPN, as diagnosed by Mart van de Wege[1]: veel dank Mart! I hope to fix that problem using these linode instructions[2]. details: Tom Roche Sat, 08 Nov 2014 23:47:29 -0500 [3] My jumpbox/server firewall is currently set to forward

Re: Ticketing Systems

2014-11-09 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jean-Marc wrote: Hi everybody, I am looking for a Ticketing System I can install using Debian packages. Something like otrs or request-tracker. Well both otrs and rt are in the Debian repo Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: Subject: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:04 AM I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing.

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 15:58:10 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: Why do you think your ~/.xpdfrc isn't read? Please post its contents and say which window manager or desktop environment it is running under. Right away. The reason I think it isn't read is

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: By desktop environment I meant GNOME, KDE etc. Yes, I know that GNOME and KDE are DEs but I don't know what I use. The only thing process-wise I have is this $ ps -e | egrep -i '(gnome|kde)' 17 ?00:00:00 kdevtmpfs which I don't think is KDE

Re: [newbie] OpenVPN: {DNS, ping, ssh} work, HTTP fails

2014-11-09 Thread Mart van de Wege
Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com writes: summary: I have a routing problem on the server side of the VPN, as diagnosed by Mart van de Wege[1]: veel dank Mart! I hope to fix that problem using these linode instructions[2]. No problem, I remember tearing my hair out when I ran into this in the

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Miles Fidelman
golinux wrote: On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: Subject: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:04 AM I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to

Re: Package system in odd state

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Joel Roth wrote: Hi List, I just did an apt-get upgrade with sid, and now need some extra help to patch up the pieces :-/ Easily fixed by removing the conflicting file, see below: $ sudo apt-get install -f Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread tor...@riseup.net
Hendrik Boom wrote: I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ At http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3t=118319 it is described as (for testing, without libsystemd0, it's

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-09 Thread Peter Nieman
On 09/11/14 14:57, Hendrik Boom wrote: I wish all desktops had systematic, transparent, naive-user-accessible ways of identifying what packages or programs are invoked by menu items. One of the key characteristics of desktop environments is to conceal this and make everything look the same.

Installing Android development software

2014-11-09 Thread Steve Greig
I thought I would try and build an Android app and see that you have to download and install some software: adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20140702.zip Before doing this (I often find installs go wrong) I was wondering if it is possible to do it using apt which I have had some success with. Would be

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 17:31:04 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: By desktop environment I meant GNOME, KDE etc. Yes, I know that GNOME and KDE are DEs but I don't know what I use. The only thing process-wise I have is this $ ps -e | egrep -i

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-09 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Steve Greig greigst...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I would try and build an Android app and see that you have to download and install some software: adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20140702.zip Before doing this (I often find installs go wrong) I was wondering if it

Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-09 Thread Martin Manns
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 05:10:02 +0100 Laurent Bigonville bi...@debian.org wrote: Which version of plymouth is that? Did you changed the default theme or something? The plymouth version is plymouth_0.9.0-8. Changing the theme to details helped. Thank you. Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote: On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ Guess what? They have

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-09 Thread Marty
On 11/09/2014 12:50 PM, Steve Greig wrote: I thought I would try and build an Android app and see that you have to download and install some software: adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20140702.zip Before doing this (I often find installs go wrong) I was wondering if it is possible to do it using apt

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/11/14 05:27 AM, Christian Seiler wrote: Am 08.11.2014 23:57, schrieb Gary Dale: For some reason my network card bridging has failed after working properly for many years. My /etc/network/interfaces is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet manual auto br0 iface br0 inet static

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-09 Thread Steve Greig
Thanks! Only needed to setup i386 arch and ia32-libs, and a few others. I was reading about that on the link Patrick gave. It looks like it is only required for the android emulator so I thought I might leave it out initially as I can transfer the app to my android phone quite easily to test it.

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/11/14 05:09 AM, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: Hi On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 05:57:41PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: For some reason my network card bridging has failed after working properly for many years. My /etc/network/interfaces is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet manual auto

Re: Preset freeze and release dates - was Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 09 nov 14, 03:17:59, Bret Busby wrote: I do not know what version number was sarge, but, from memory, regarding Debian Linux 3 and 3.1, people complained and joked about the long time between releases, and how at that time, it was a It will happen when it happens, maybe in a year,

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 09.11.2014 19:48, schrieb Gary Dale: This IP seems oddly familiar... Did you recently install libvirt? Because that's the default IP for libvirt's default internal bridged network (virbr0). Normally, that shouldn't interfere with the standard bridge (different interface name), but maybe in

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread shawn wilson
On Nov 9, 2014 4:46 AM, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 05:38:59PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: What part of we don't want systemd on any of our systems don't you get? If we don't want it, we won't be testing it. There's still plenty of work to be done

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread shawn wilson
On Nov 8, 2014 12:24 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Mart van de Wege wrote: Slavko li...@slavino.sk writes: Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege mvdw...@gmail.com napísal: Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/11/14 02:34 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: Am 09.11.2014 19:48, schrieb Gary Dale: This IP seems oddly familiar... Did you recently install libvirt? Because that's the default IP for libvirt's default internal bridged network (virbr0). Normally, that shouldn't interfere with the standard

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Doug
On 11/09/2014 11:38 AM, tor...@riseup.net wrote: Hendrik Boom wrote: I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ At http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3t=118319 it is

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 09.11.2014 21:13, schrieb Gary Dale: You're right. Here's my default.xml (I only changed the addresses): root@TheLibrarian:/home/garydale# cat /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default.xml network namedefault/name bridge name=br0 / forward/ ip address=192.168.1.14

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: It isn't important in the context of xpdf's behaviour ... That's what I thought :) But you asked, and by all means it could be interesting to find out... ... and it doesn't appear you have any of them. But you could try 'dpkg - | grep -i xfce', for

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 18:19:21 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote: On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-09 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/08/2014 03:43 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: No, just don't send the whole core dump itself (the file called core) to the BTS (or this mailing list). It almost certainly has your machine ldap password in it. that makes sense, wont do that,

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014, Joris Bolsens wrote: Where do i find the object file for libnss-ldap? I tried running nm -a on pretty much every file I could find with libnss-ldap in the name and it said it didn't recognize the file type. It should be symlinked from /lib64/libnss_ldap.so.2 or

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread John Hasler
tornow writes: I am not a big fan of such workarounds. It doesn't seem to make sense to work against Debian all the time. If one doesn't want systemd, then the solution is to leave. I mean: If you use Debian, then you use it cause it is rock solid, aka stable. Except that many are concerned

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-09, tor...@riseup.net tor...@riseup.net wrote: Are there any other forks? Having been the long time guinea pig i can give you my opinion. It is so close to debian that i wouldn't even call it a distribution, rather a respin, a configured version of Debian (with a few scripts, one

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Ron
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 15:00:24 -0500 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: Like pointed out above: Those are my opinions, nothing official from refracta. I think it might be worthwhile to consider some other derivative distros: I don't mean consider them _instead_ of Refracta, I mean

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 2:00 PM I think it might be worthwhile to consider some other derivative distros: I don't mean consider them _instead_

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 12:19 PM On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote: On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote: On

grub-pc update causes mount hang

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Hi list, I've been upgrading my sid system. When grub goes to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg, mount uses 100% CPU and causes these processes to hang: 10064 pts/1S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests /dev/sda4 10075 pts/1R 7:33 mount -o ro -t ext4 /dev/sda4

Re: grub-pc update causes mount hang

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Joel Roth wrote: Hi list, I've been upgrading my sid system. When grub goes to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg, mount uses 100% CPU and causes these processes to hang: 10064 pts/1S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests /dev/sda4 10075 pts/1R 7:33 mount -o ro

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: dmcgarr...@optonline.net Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 2:58 PM On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 15:00:24 -0500 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net

Re: grub-pc update causes mount hang

2014-11-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-11-09 22:46 +0100, Joel Roth wrote: I've been upgrading my sid system. When grub goes to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg, mount uses 100% CPU and causes these processes to hang: 10064 pts/1S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests /dev/sda4 10075 pts/1R

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 03:20:30PM -0600, golinux wrote: Please do little research before opening mouth and inserting foot. There is no comparison between Refracta and bloated offerings like Ubuntu or Mint. In fact, it is downright insulting. In case you missed it, Refracta is a respin NOT

Re: grub-pc update causes mount hang

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Joel Roth wrote: Joel Roth wrote: Hi list, I've been upgrading my sid system. When grub goes to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg, mount uses 100% CPU and causes these processes to hang: 10064 pts/1S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests /dev/sda4 10075 pts/1

Re: Set openbox to be mate default WM

2014-11-09 Thread Alexis
David Kline writes: My windows in mate looked terrible. I was wondering why themes weren't changing. I thought that the windows looked kind of gnome 3ish so I ran openbox --replace. I was surprised to find that open box was not the default! How do I set openbox to be the default mate window

Re: mythtv fails to install

2014-11-09 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 07:38:02 -0500 Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote: attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this error in the shell; sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common Reading package

Re: mythtv fails to install

2014-11-09 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 02:17:49 +1300 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote: attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this error in the shell; sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common Reading

Re: mythtv fails to install

2014-11-09 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 02:17:49 +1300 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote: attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this error in the shell; sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common Reading

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