Re: Ma Debian va très mal !!

2014-11-18 Thread C. Mourad Jaber
Le 17/11/2014 19:21, MERLIN Philippe a écrit : Le lundi 17 novembre 2014, 19:01:35 maderios a écrit : On 11/17/2014 06:29 PM, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Bonjour, Depuis le mois de juin de cette année j'ai des problèmes avec ma debian Sid Amd64. Tous ces problèmes viennent de la migration vers

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-18 Thread D. Barbier
Le 18 novembre 2014 01:27, FGK a écrit : [...] [Les communautés] sont peut-être réticentes mais elles se rendent compte petit à petit qu'elles n'ont pas le choix en réalité. Heu, non. On se dit juste que si une boite demande à un juriste s'il faut mettre en place une procédure afin de se

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-18 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 17 November 2014 23:37:07 chris21.r...@free.fr wrote: L'histoire se répète: Cela fait maintenant longtemps que Microsoft possède sa propre distribution Linux (une société qu'elle contrôle en est le développeur) : Quelle est cette distribution Linux ? Windowsinux ? : pas trouvé

Comment annuler la redirection automatique vers le portail pro.orange.fr ?

2014-11-18 Thread Olivier
Bonjour, J'ai un site qui a une LiveboxPro Orange. On vient de me rapporter que si un utilisateur saisis l'adresse http://orange.fr dans son navigateur, il est automatiquement re-dirigé vers le portail pro.orange.fr. Je ne souhaite plus bénéficier de cette fonctionnalité (que personne ne

Re: Gestion électronique de documents

2014-11-18 Thread Stéphane GARGOLY
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le dimanche 16 novembre 2014 à 17:53, BERTRAND Joël joel.bertr...@systella.fr a écrit : Je recherche un système libre de gestion électronique de documents (pour mettre sur le côté obscur du web, donc en opensource). Y a-t-il

Re: Comment annuler la redirection automatique vers le portail pro.orange.fr ?

2014-11-18 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le mardi 18 novembre 2014 à 11:26, Olivier a écrit : J'ai commencé par vérifier le DNS: selon la machine que j'utilise (connectée à un réseau quelconque), je vois ceci ou cela: # ping orange.fr PING orange.fr (193.252.148.60) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from

Re: [HS] Chiffrer, oui mais...

2014-11-18 Thread Luc Novales
Le 16/11/2014 14:47, Gaël a écrit : Salut! J'aimerais mettre une solution de chiffrement pour un groupe d'une dizaine de personne Si ce groupe ne change pas super souvent, tu peux créer une mailing-list. Mais il faut que le serveur de ML soit Schleuder (schleuder2.nadir.org), et entrer

Re: Comment annuler la redirection automatique vers le portail pro.orange.fr ?

2014-11-18 Thread Olivier
Le 18 novembre 2014 11:55, Sébastien NOBILI sebnewslet...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Le mardi 18 novembre 2014 à 11:26, Olivier a écrit : J'ai commencé par vérifier le DNS: selon la machine que j'utilise (connectée à un réseau quelconque), je vois ceci ou cela: # ping orange.fr PING

Re: Comment annuler la redirection automatique vers le portail pro.orange.fr ?

2014-11-18 Thread Angus Frinc
Bonjour, Le 18/nov. - 11:26, Olivier a écrit : J'ai un site qui a une LiveboxPro Orange. On vient de me rapporter que si un utilisateur saisis l'adresse http://orange.fr dans son navigateur, il est automatiquement re-dirigé vers le portail pro.orange.fr. Je ne souhaite plus bénéficier de

Re: Comment annuler la redirection automatique vers le portail pro.orange.fr ?

2014-11-18 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le mardi 18 novembre 2014 à 15:35, Olivier a écrit : Si je ne me trompe pas, c'est particulièrement embarrassant car quelqu'un connecté au accède directement par le portail aux factures d'Orange par exemple, sans aucun mot de passe. En effet, j'avais déjà remarqué ce point. Je m'étais retrouvé

Re: Comment annuler la redirection automatique vers le portail pro.orange.fr ?

2014-11-18 Thread Olivier
Le 18 novembre 2014 15:43, Angus Frinc angus.fr...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Le 18/nov. - 11:26, Olivier a écrit : J'ai un site qui a une LiveboxPro Orange. On vient de me rapporter que si un utilisateur saisis l'adresse http://orange.fr dans son navigateur, il est automatiquement

Re: Comment annuler la redirection automatique vers le portail pro.orange.fr ?

2014-11-18 Thread Angus Frinc
Le 18/nov. - 15:54, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Le mardi 18 novembre 2014 à 15:35, Olivier a écrit : Si je ne me trompe pas, c'est particulièrement embarrassant car quelqu'un connecté au accède directement par le portail aux factures d'Orange par exemple, sans aucun mot de passe. En

Installateur Jessie et firmware (non-free)

2014-11-18 Thread Angus Frinc
Bonjour, sous wheezy, quand on veut faire une netinstall avec des drivers réseaux nécessitant un firmware, on pouvait utiliser l'inclusion des dits firmware dans l'initrd (il me semble même, que si pas fait, l'installateur demandais si on voulait insérer une clef USB avec les firmwares).

Re: [HS] Chiffrer, oui mais...

2014-11-18 Thread Gaël
Hello, Sympa http://www.sympa.org/ sait gérer l'authentification et le cryptage des messages par certificats depuis fort longtemps :) voir par exemple : http://www.sympa.org/doc/formation/sympa_avance#smime http://www.sympa.org/documentation/tutorial/tutorial-fr.pdf

Re: Installateur Jessie et firmware (non-free)

2014-11-18 Thread Nicolas Roche
Bonjour Angus, - Avez vous vu passer une info sur une façon de faire différente entre Wheezy et Jessie ? - Comment remonter ce genre de bug s'il est ? reportbug sur quel paquet ? A mon avis l'endroit approprié serait la liste debian-cd, où je ne crois pas avoir vu passer cette info

RE: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-18 Thread valentin OVD
(à moins que Debian le soit déjà intrinsèquement...) troll System D de RedHat ? /troll -- ovd valentin@live.fr De : andre_deb...@numericable.frmailto:andre_deb...@numericable.fr Envoyé : ‎18/‎11/‎2014 10:35 À :

EXIM: recevoir email sur un autre PC

2014-11-18 Thread Frédéric Marécaille
Bonsoir à tous, Je cherche à retrouver (j'avais trouvé sur un autre serveur mais je n'ai pas sauvegarder les confs!) la bonne configuration d'exim pour rediriger les emails reçus sur mon serveur auto-hébergé vers un pc du réseau local : le serveur à l'IP 192.168.0.16 le client à l'IP

Re: cracker une .rar

2014-11-18 Thread zulian
Le lundi 17 novembre 2014 22:34:56 andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Monday 17 November 2014 21:59:29 you wrote: Il est très difficile (pour ne pas dire impossible) de pouvoir cracker des mots de passe d'archives vu qu'il est quasiment tout le temps nécessaire d'avoir recours à la

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-18 Thread FGK
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:27:39AM +0100, D. Barbier wrote: Le 18 novembre 2014 01:27, FGK a écrit : [...] [Les communautés] sont peut-être réticentes mais elles se rendent compte petit à petit qu'elles n'ont pas le choix en réalité. Heu, non. On se dit juste que si une boite demande à un

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-18 Thread D. Barbier
Le 18 novembre 2014 23:01, FGK a écrit : [...] Pour finir, je reviens ici sur ta remarque. La question n'était donc pas de savoir si le projet avait besoin de protection. Le projet s'est rendu compte qu'il avait besoin de protection et a cherché une solution pratique et accessible à tous ses

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-18 Thread FGK
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:44:16AM +, D. Barbier wrote: Le 18 novembre 2014 23:01, FGK a écrit : [...] Pour finir, je reviens ici sur ta remarque. La question n'était donc pas de savoir si le projet avait besoin de protection. Le projet s'est rendu compte qu'il avait besoin de

Re: Laporan Akhir DebConf14

2014-11-18 Thread Dimas Yudha P.
Thanks Zaki.. On Nov 18, 2014 8:53 AM, Zaki Akhmad zakiakh...@gmail.com wrote: Salam, Laporan akhir DebConf14 sudah bisa dibaca di: * http://media.debconf.org/dc14/report/DebConf14_final_report.en.pdf Semoga bermanfaat, -- Zaki Akhmad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

[Solucionado] FW: Error al actualizar Iceweasel

2014-11-18 Thread Marco Da Silva
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:37:16 +0100 From: sanv...@unex.es To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Error al actualizar Iceweasel On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:11:53PM -0400, Marco Da Silva wrote: dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing archive member: lzma error: compressed data

Re: ssh de solaris a debian

2014-11-18 Thread Eduardo
El 17/11/14 a las #4, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: Buenas, me pasa algo raro, tengo esta instalación de OpenIndiana (que deriva de opensolaris) e intenté entrar a mi computadora (debian testing, y, como todos los lunes (me da flojera actualizar mas seguido), recién actualizada) # ssh

Bug#770098: Request for a debian-nordic mailing list

2014-11-18 Thread Per Andersson
Package: lists.debian.org Severity: normal Hi! Please create a debian-nordic mailing list, for the Nordic Debian Community. At FSCONS 2014 in Göteborg, Sweden, almost a dozen Debian people attended the Debian room. During a few years and several other meetings, I have probed the interest for a

Bug#770098: Request for a debian-nordic mailing list

2014-11-18 Thread Per Andersson
Package: lists.debian.org Severity: normal Hi! Please create a debian-nordic mailing list, for the Nordic Debian Community. At FSCONS 2014 in Göteborg, Sweden, almost a dozen Debian people attended the Debian room. During a few years and several other meetings, I have probed the interest for a

Caro usuário

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Re: Como monitorar portas e arquivos? (era: MALWARE Virus no Ubuntu)

2014-11-18 Thread Thiago Zoroastro
Alias Enio, Teve uma palestra de um sueco a um tempo atrás no CISL SERPRO que ele recomendou usar um gerenciador de senhas. Então eu demorei um pouco para entender o que ele estava dizendo e depois econtrei o keepassx e o keepass2. Prefiri o keepassx. Ali comecei a colocar senhas diferentes

Mensagem ao acessar pagina

2014-11-18 Thread Leandro
Prezados, tenho um squid usando winbind, de um tempo pra cá, ao acessar alguma pagina aparece tela de logon, nada até o momento foi modificado porem nos logs vejo somente essa entrada como ofensor do problema, alguem ja passou por isso antes? tail -f /var/log/squid/cache.log [2014/11/19

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Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote: Please don't top post - it's not hard to move the mouse. Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote: snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess what, no systemd service file in upstream). xy? Ummm those are

Re: Not this again

2014-11-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 18. November 2014, 00:29:15 schrieb golinux: UGH! Looks like Gregory Smith has returned with a new handle - SystemBlues. Does anybody read his swill? No. And I see no point in discussing this here in yet another somewhat systemd related thread. I regularily delete all his mails

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-18 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-18, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:32:43AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Some people think sex should only be for procreation... Are you procreation or against it? In your case I'm against it. ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Ludovic Meyer
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:54:16PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Given all the talk about not being able to influence

Re: Qt version of gnuplot strange message

2014-11-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:03:41PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: The newer version of gnuplot is issuing a warning that I have never seen before: Qt: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-18 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 17.11.2014 um 19:54 schrieb Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org: Le 17/11/2014 17:39, Brian a écrit : On Mon 17 Nov 2014 at 15:29:21 +0100, Erwan David wrote: Is there a printable/epub/pdf version of systemd for administrators ? 20+ HTML pages is very difficult to read, just becaus it

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 07:54:48PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: Which would (in addition to being tedious) do an ugly job because of web pages decorations and the fact that a webpage does not map well on a pdf page. The pages you are talking about are fairly simple in terms of presentation

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote: Please don't top post - it's not hard to move the mouse. Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote: snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess what, no systemd service file in upstream). xy?

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:54:16PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Given all the talk about not being

The systemd MacGuffin

2014-11-18 Thread Marty
The systemd issue in Debian (not systemd itself) is like exploring a cave system which seems to go on forever. It has so many facets and subplots that it seems impossible to evaluate objectively. It's the perfect storm for Debian. It's hard to imagine a more polarizing issue. It's conceivable

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 18.11.2014 um 10:07 schrieb Ludovic Meyer ludo.v.me...@gmail.com: Show us where Debian is using the file shipped by upstream. Maybe drbd? Then, tell me, is Debian wrong to not use them, or are the script shipped upstream deficient ? In fact, you show they are shipping

Maildrop - howto deliver email that contains the word systemd directly to trash with .mailfilter?

2014-11-18 Thread Toby
Hello, the subject says it all. I'm starting to have problems finding useful mails from this list. They are hiding somewhere between all systemd arguments. Since I'm not interested in what init system that will be the default and are trusting that my boxes will work just fine with the one

Re: The systemd MacGuffin

2014-11-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
Marty wrote: I started posting here when, after years of promoting Linux to friends and employers and finally seeing much progress, my company started phasing out Debian (systemd was not the only issue but more of a last straw). Might I ask: - what the other straws were, and, - what your

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-18 Thread Reco
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 01:01:47AM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:41:14AM +0300, Reco wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 07:15:38PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:29:24PM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:48:34PM

Re: The systemd MacGuffin

2014-11-18 Thread Keith Peter
On 18/11/2014, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Marty wrote: I started posting here when, after years of promoting Linux to friends and employers and finally seeing much progress, my company started phasing out Debian (systemd was not the only issue but more of a last straw).

Migrating GTK+ project to windows

2014-11-18 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I have a project that I'd like to migrate to Windows. I'll likely be using Windows 8.1. It was originally developed on debian-based distros, so I think this the most likely place to find folks who've done the same. I make it with code::blocks normally. I have code::blocks on my Windows

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

2014-11-18 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 18. 10. 2014 03:20:25 je Joel Rees napisal(a): When I look at systemd, the fundamental design and structure fly in the face of reason. I'm not trying to be insulting when I say that. For some of us it really does fly in the face of reason. I second that. Some terms that have been used

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-18 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Nov 2014 at 10:56:58 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 07:54:48PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: And no need to be so contemptuous, I know such a solution exists, with a very poor result. Please assume good faith on the part of your fellow list participants.

Re: The systemd MacGuffin

2014-11-18 Thread Listas
On 11/18/2014 04:47 AM, Marty wrote: The systemd issue in Debian (not systemd itself) is like exploring a cave system which seems to go on forever. It has so many facets and subplots that it seems impossible to evaluate objectively. It's the perfect storm for Debian. It's hard to imagine a

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread iain
Show us where Debian is using the file shipped by upstream. dpkg -l | grep xymon ii xymon-client 4.3.17-4 amd64client for the Xymon network monitor 17:25:35 weezer:~/src/xymon-4.3.17$ diff /etc/init.d/xymon-client

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-18 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-18, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: That search term has http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-pdf.html as its first result. Well, I'm sure there's something unsatisfying about that, about which we can all have a long, acrimonious discussion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Fothergill
Dear Folks, Out of interest, if I installed two Kaveri motherboads side by side in the same box (if there would be enough room e.g. in a HAF-x box, could I use something like Beowulf to run them in tandem? Could I not set it up so that I could run one board most of the time and only switch on

Re: Migrating GTK+ project to windows

2014-11-18 Thread Joe
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 07:51:12 -0800 Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: I have a project that I'd like to migrate to Windows. I'll likely be using Windows 8.1. It was originally developed on debian-based distros, so I think this the most likely place to find folks who've done the same.

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le dimanche, 16 novembre 2014, 11.50:25 Miles Fidelman a écrit : Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service scripts. Let's take the inverse

3 things millionaires do EVERYDAY

2014-11-18 Thread Wealth Manager
Hey Valued Partner, Did you know most millionaires do this everyday? = *http://goo.gl/y3jSgJ http://goo.gl/y3jSgJ* Jacob McAvoy was heavily in debt a few months ago and now he is a millionaire. How? He did these 3 things every single day. = *http://goo.gl/y3jSgJ http://goo.gl/y3jSgJ* Its

Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-11-18 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/11/2014, Michael Fothergill michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote: snip Tempus fugit , sed Latini etiam sugit ? With the sed, it seems a bit awk-ward (?) I know that tempis fugit thing; Time flies like arrows, and fruit flies like bananas, but, What's it all about, Alfie?

Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-11-18 Thread Matt Ventura
On 11/18/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Folks, Out of interest, if I installed two Kaveri motherboads side by side in the same box (if there would be enough room e.g. in a HAF-x box, could I use something like Beowulf to run them in tandem? Could I not set it up so that I

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hallo, * Miles Fidelman [Sun, Nov 16 2014, 02:41:14PM]: Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 16 nov 14, 11:50:25, Miles Fidelman wrote: So... with systemd, one has to: - rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or, - rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which In the

Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Fothergill
Tempus fugit , sed Latini etiam sugit ? With the sed, it seems a bit awk-ward (?) I know that tempis fugit thing; Time flies like arrows, and fruit flies like bananas, but, What's it all about, Alfie? Let me explain a bit.. I was playing around with google translate to

Latin joke, was Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-11-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 21:02:53 Michael Fothergill wrote: I also tried translating the Latin expression I made back into English to check whether it would help anyone interested to get the joke But I noticed that google translate rendered it in English as: Time flies, whereas the

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote: snipped Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote: snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess what, no systemd service file in upstream). xy? Ummm

LVM: shrinking a logical volume (moving LVM logical volumes to new disks)

2014-11-18 Thread lee
Hi, so far, I managed to pvmove a LV to my USB stick and from there to a backup disk in another machine. Doing so, I found that I can split off LVs from a volume group and that this inevitably creates a new VG. That leaves you stuck because it's impossible to move a LV from one VG to another,

Re: moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-18 Thread lee
Patrick Ouellette poue...@debian.org writes: How do I make the VMs bootable after copying them back? Maybe try a SuperGrub Boot Disk (or USB drive) if you are using GRUB. I would probably install on a minimal system on the new disks so they are bootable, create the new volumes, rsync, move

Re: LVM: shrinking a logical volume (moving LVM logical volumes to new disks)

2014-11-18 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:24:27AM +0100, lee wrote: Hi, so far, I managed to pvmove a LV to my USB stick and from there to a backup disk in another machine. Doing so, I found that I can split off LVs from a volume group and that this inevitably creates a new VG. That leaves you stuck

Qemu host drive basics.

2014-11-18 Thread peter
http://wiki.qemu.org/download/qemu-doc.html#sec_005finvocation contains, `-fda file' ... You can use the host floppy by using `/dev/fd0' as filename ... Therefore take any diskette which the bare PC can boot from and try to boot the virtual machine from it. Here fd0 twitches; then an error.

Re: Qemu host drive basics.

2014-11-18 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 18 Nov 20:49 -0600, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: http://wiki.qemu.org/download/qemu-doc.html#sec_005finvocation contains, `-fda file' ... You can use the host floppy by using `/dev/fd0' as filename ... Therefore take any diskette which the bare PC can boot from and try to boot the

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le dimanche, 16 novembre 2014, 11.50:25 Miles Fidelman a écrit : Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service scripts.

SystemD people berating Bruce Perens. It is cold in non-systemd space

2014-11-18 Thread Hanover Shriver
*(See: Systemd people being assholes to Bruce Perens https://lwn.net/Articles/620879/ ) Synth and organ in the cold infinite vastness. As if abandoned. Seeing bright lights, but feeling no warmth. Kind of like what old-guard Free/Opensource contributors feel from the SystemD coupists in the space

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote: snipped Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote: snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess what, no systemd service file in

Re: Qemu host drive basics.

2014-11-18 Thread peter
From: Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:26:06 -0600 It is rw only for the root user and members of the floppy group. Is peter a member of the floppy group? Use the 'group' command to find out. No group command but peter is in the floppy group.

Caro usuário

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Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/11/14 15:12, Miles Fidelman wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote: snipped Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote: snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-18 Thread Erwan David
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 05:34:20PM CET, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk said: On Tue 18 Nov 2014 at 10:56:58 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 07:54:48PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: And no need to be so contemptuous, I know such a solution exists, with a very poor

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mardi, 18 novembre 2014, 22.10:22 Miles Fidelman a écrit : Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Let's take the inverse view: which of these use the upstream sysvinit scripts directly ? The answer, as demonstrated below, is: none. Out of curiosity, how are you comparing these to the init