Résolu : Re: Gestion électronique de documents

2014-11-22 Thread Georges
Re Bonjour, Le Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:41:13 +0100, YP a écrit : Le 22/11/2014 08:02, Georges a écrit : Et je tombe sur le message : Ce site n'est pas certifié Sortir de là ? Me parais étonnent pour linufr.org, un usurpateur ? ttps://linuxfr.org/aide#aide-certificatssl

systemctl disable n'enlève pas les liens symboliques de /etc/rc?.d

2014-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc
Salut la liste, Hier soir, je désactive NFS via la commande systemctl disable nfs-common.service. Elle m'affiche bien qu'elle met à jour les liens via un update-rc.d. Mais ce matin, au démarrage, NFS est de retour. Normal : les liens sont toujours là. Re-systemctl disable et vérification dans

systemctl disable n'enlève pas les liens symboliques de /etc/rc?.d (2)

2014-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc
Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:36:47 +0100 Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be écrivait : Salut la liste, Hier soir, je désactive NFS via la commande systemctl disable nfs-common.service. Elle m'affiche bien qu'elle met à jour les liens via un update-rc.d. Mais ce matin, au démarrage, NFS est de retour.

[HS] Faire défiler des images sur une bande son

2014-11-22 Thread Cyrille
Bonsoir J'ai enregistré un MP3. Je voudrais mettre dessus des images pour en faire un AVI Toutes les images (une centaine) sont stockées dans un dossier. Quel programme peut faire cela, je n'y connais pas grand chose en montage vidéo, j'ai essayé lives, mais les images tournent beaucoup trop vite

Re: [HS] Faire défiler des images sur une bande son

2014-11-22 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:54:12 +0100 Cyrille cyri...@cbiot.fr a écrit: Je voulais installer openshot mais aptitude ne trouve pas blender (dépendance) sur le ftp de debian.fr (erreur 404) et donc bloque l'installation Je suis sous stable. Blender n'est pas une dépendance d'openshot c'est juste

Re: systemctl disable n'enlève pas les liens symboliques de /etc/rc?.d (2)

2014-11-22 Thread maderios
On 11/22/2014 05:54 PM, Jean-Marc wrote: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:36:47 +0100 Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be écrivait : Salut la liste, Hier soir, je désactive NFS via la commande systemctl disable nfs-common.service. Elle m'affiche bien qu'elle met à jour les liens via un update-rc.d. Mais ce

Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-22 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Bonjour, Est-il possible d'accéder à Google Drive comme on peut le faire avec Dropbox dans nautilus ? J'ai vu le paquet gnome-online-miners qu semble pouvoir faire des recherches dans google drive mais ça ne semble pas fonctionner. Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question

Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-22 Thread S L
Le 23 novembre 2014 00:11, Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Est-il possible d'accéder à Google Drive comme on peut le faire avec Dropbox dans Nautilus ? J'ai vu le paquet gnome-online-miners qui semble pouvoir faire des recherches dans Google Drive mais ça ne semble

Debian ,Bumblebee mon Lenovo W530

2014-11-22 Thread jerome moliere
Bonjour, je sollicite votre aide car je suis en train de m'arracher mes dderniers cheveux -) depuis 2 jours sur une configuration de Bumblebee avec un systeme Optimus conjuguant une carte integree Intel une Nvidia Quadro K1000M . Je m'interesse a cela car comme sur crertains portables , la sortie

Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-22 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sun, 23 Nov 2014 01:10:28 +0100 S L slest...@gmail.com a écrit: Le 23 novembre 2014 00:11, Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Est-il possible d'accéder à Google Drive comme on peut le faire avec Dropbox dans Nautilus ? J'ai vu le paquet gnome-online-miners qui

Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-22 Thread sylvain baal
moi j'utilise hubic d'OVH client sur tous les os etc https://hubic.com/fr/ c'est du owncloud mutualisé 25GO gratuit Le 23/11/2014 01:20, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Le Sun, 23 Nov 2014 01:10:28 +0100 S L slest...@gmail.com a écrit: Le 23 novembre 2014 00:11, Gaëtan PERRIER

Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-22 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
J'en suis fort content mais c'est toujours HS. Je ne vous demande pas une solution pour remplacer Google Drive, j'en connais plein déjà et j'en utilise déjà, mais comment accéder à Google Drive depuis Debian via nautilus. Gaëtan Le Sun, 23 Nov 2014 01:38:52 +0100 sylvain baal cont...@baal.fr a

Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-22 Thread Belaïd
Bonjour, si c'est un montage que tu veux faire, peu être que ceci t'aidera: http://linuxaria.com/article/how-to-access-google-drive-on-linux bonne journée Le 23 nov. 2014 01:44, Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit : J'en suis fort content mais c'est toujours HS. Je ne vous demande

Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-22 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour, Dans la continuité du message précédent, voici ma procédure : Ajout du repository suivant : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/alessandro-strada/ppa/ubuntu trusty main Installation : apt-get install google-drive-ocamlfuse Montage (à ajouter à l'ouverture de session) : google-drive-ocamlfuse

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014-11-21 22:22 GMT+00:00 Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 07:37:02PM +, C. L. Martinez wrote: Aun así, no pierdas de vista que para los mandamases del proyecto es el init por defecto. Eso quiere decir que si siguen en sus trece, terminarás tragando con systemd de

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Manolo Díaz
El viernes, 21 nov 2014 a las 20:20 horas (UTC+1), Manolo Díaz escribió: No obstante, la diferencia es fundamental: XFCE *sí* se puede instalar sin systemd y no debe ponerse en el mismo plano que GNOME. Lo anterior puede llevar a confusión: GNOME puede instalarse con systemd-shim, entonces

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Manolo Díaz
El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 12:37 horas (UTC+1), C. L. Martinez escribió: Si a tú a un desarrollador (que ahora mismo no estoy seguro si es coincidente con el mantenedor de paquetes en Debian), le dices: ¿que prefieres desarrollar: 5 distintos sistemas de configuración/scripts etc para un

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014-11-22 12:10 GMT+00:00 Manolo Díaz diaz.man...@gmail.com: El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 12:37 horas (UTC+1), C. L. Martinez escribió: Si a tú a un desarrollador (que ahora mismo no estoy seguro si es coincidente con el mantenedor de paquetes en Debian), le dices: ¿que prefieres desarrollar:

Re: JRE 32 en Debian 64

2014-11-22 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:36:46 -0300, Epsilon Minus escribió: Buenas.. (ese html...) Para un sistema privado en Sistemas de 32bits agregaba un link simbolico a una libreria de Java de Oracle el JRE 6 sobre /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins ahora mismo tengo un Debian 64 y se me esta haciendo

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 21 Nov 2014 20:20:53 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: El viernes, 21 nov 2014 a las 19:47 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: No sólo GNOME sino también XFCE. Y no me vengas con que un usuario puede montar manualmente las llaves USB porque eso es absurdo y surrealista. Bueno, más que

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Gerardo Diez García
El 22/11/14 14:03, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 21 Nov 2014 20:20:53 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: El viernes, 21 nov 2014 a las 19:47 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: No sólo GNOME sino también XFCE. Y no me vengas con que un usuario puede montar manualmente las llaves USB porque eso es

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Manolo Díaz
El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 14:03 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: No obstante, la diferencia es fundamental: XFCE *sí* se puede instalar sin systemd y no debe ponerse en el mismo plano que GNOME. No, no se puede (acuérdate de libpam-systemd). Sí, sí se puede. Demostración: apt,

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014-11-22 13:36 GMT+00:00 Gerardo Diez García gerardo.diez.gar...@gmail.com: El 22/11/14 14:03, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 21 Nov 2014 20:20:53 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: El viernes, 21 nov 2014 a las 19:47 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: No sólo GNOME sino también XFCE. Y no me vengas

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:37:48AM +, C. L. Martinez wrote: [...] república bananera [...] Vaya. Parece que vamos cambiando el término según el caso. ¿En qué quedamos entonces? ¿hay mandamases o no hay mandamases? Según la constitución, podría haber habido una GR para que el sistema de

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:45:44 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 14:03 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: No obstante, la diferencia es fundamental: XFCE *sí* se puede instalar sin systemd y no debe ponerse en el mismo plano que GNOME. No, no se puede (acuérdate de

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:36:02 +0100, Gerardo Diez García escribió: El 22/11/14 14:03, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 21 Nov 2014 20:20:53 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: (...) No obstante, la diferencia es fundamental: XFCE *sí* se puede instalar sin systemd y no debe ponerse en el mismo plano que

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Gerardo Diez García
El 22/11/14 15:49, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:36:02 +0100, Gerardo Diez García escribió: El 22/11/14 14:03, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 21 Nov 2014 20:20:53 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: (...) No obstante, la diferencia es fundamental: XFCE *sí* se puede instalar sin

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:14:35 +0100, Gerardo Diez García escribió: El 22/11/14 15:49, Camaleón escribió: (...) Un usuario medio no administra servidores. Y aquí se le está dando cera al desempeño de systemd en servidores. ¿O se está jugando al trile? Los administradores también usamos

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Manolo Díaz
El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 15:34 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:45:44 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 14:03 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: No obstante, la diferencia es fundamental: XFCE *sí* se puede instalar sin systemd y no debe

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Manolo Díaz
El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 16:59 horas (UTC+1), Manolo Díaz escribió: $ dpkg -l gvfs network-manager udisks2 hplip policykit-1 systemd ||/ NombreVersión Arquitectura Descripción

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:59:02 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 15:34 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: (...) Sí, sí se puede. Demostración: apt, synaptics, etc. No sé a qué te refieres con eso. A que en lugar de teorizar hagas la prueba. Nota: la configuración

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Manolo Díaz
El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 18:00 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:59:02 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 15:34 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: (...) Sí, sí se puede. Demostración: apt, synaptics, etc. No sé a qué te refieres con eso.

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-22 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:45:17 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 18:00 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: (...) Las opciones son las siguientes: 1. Puedes prescindir de esos paquetes: instalas xfce4 sin más. No, no puedo. 2. No puedes: instalas systemd Eso es lo

Robot FB-Marketer

2014-11-22 Thread Club de Negocios
Estimado Afiliado: El dia de hoy te traemos Un Robot Que Publica Por Ti En Facebook sin las limitaciones que impone Facebook para las publicaciones Automatiza Tu Negocio Con El Robot Y Aumenta Tus Ventas ¿Cuanto cuesta el Auto FB Marketer? Un software de este tipo tiene un alto valor. Hoy,

Re: JRE 32 en Debian 64

2014-11-22 Thread unciegobailando
El 21/11/14 a las 18:18, Angel Claudio Alvarez escibió: El Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:36:46 -0300 Epsilon Minus theepsilonmi...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas.. Para un sistema privado en Sistemas de 32bits agregaba un link simbolico a una libreria de Java de Oracle el JRE 6 sobre

Jessie Beta 3 ?

2014-11-22 Thread Rolf Edlund
Hej! Någon som sett/läst om det kommer att släppas någon mer beta version av Jessie ? Har sökt på Google, men inte hittat något om det. -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Jessie Beta 3 ?

2014-11-22 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 22 november 2014 15:12 skrev Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com: Hej! Någon som sett/läst om det kommer att släppas någon mer beta version av Jessie ? Har sökt på Google, men inte hittat något om det. Jag tänkte närmast på att Jessie nu är fryst. Att det då inte blir någon mer beta innan

Re: [Off-Topic]Procedimentos - Invasão e/ou Malware

2014-11-22 Thread Helio Loureiro
Uma simples atualização dois servidores teria mitigado o problema. Se nem isso fizeram, não há segurança no mundo que se possa aplicar. Não com essa equipe. Helio Loureiro -= sent by Android =- On Nov 21, 2014 2:53 PM, Anacleto Junior suporte.anacl...@gmail.com wrote: Bom dia pessoal,

Re: [Off-Topic]Procedimentos - Invasão e/ou Malware

2014-11-22 Thread Vitor Hugo
Uma medida rapida seria trocar a shell e desinstalar o bash depois com mais tempo reavaliar as atualizacoes dos pacotes e ver pq nao estao sendo atualizados. Alguns sistemas nao promoverao atualizacoes como no caso do os x leopard pra baixo e monowall geralmente voce pode atualizar por conta

Re: [Off-Topic]Procedimentos - Invasão e/ou Malware

2014-11-22 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Bom, ai depende. Dei uma olhada rapida no google, e recebi a informação que este problema é de liberar acesso ao servidor. Pensando brutamente, acredito que o mais basico seria bloquear o acesso a seu servidor de ips não autorizados através de um firewall, segundo, para melhorar o gerenciamento

Re: [Off-Topic]Procedimentos - Invasão e/ou Malware

2014-11-22 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Complementando,proponha a utilização do chroot, é uma excelente ferramenta para enjaular aplicações sem deixar que estas tenham acesso ao seu ambiente de forma global. Em 22 de novembro de 2014 17:46, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com escreveu: Bom, ai depende. Dei uma olhada rapida

Re: Logout root

2014-11-22 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Tente criar o arquivo na mão e (vim /root/.bash_logout) e inserir o seu script. Ps Coloque permissão de execução no arquivo. Em 21 de novembro de 2014 17:07, Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br escreveu: Caro, O ./bash_logout também é executado quando o shell é finalizado pelo usuário root.

Re: Sintaxe dns

2014-11-22 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
root@pc-desktop:/home/casa# dig NS locaweb.com.br Sim, execute o comando dig NS locaweb.com.br e ele vai te dar os servidores dns da locaweb. #dig NS locaweb.com.br ; DiG 9.9.5-3-Ubuntu NS locaweb.com.br ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id:

Re: MALWARE Virus no Ubuntu [Alerta]

2014-11-22 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Eu li no google que é um tipo de ataque sim, o que fiz foi aumentar minha segurança no ubuntu. Coisas simples que eu achava sem necessidade, mas como a bendita travou a minha rede...comecei a utilizar. Minha máquina é de testes e nada tenho de importante nela, porém, vai saber quando alguém vai

Re: Warning - bleachbit might kill KDE

2014-11-22 Thread Hans
Hi, as I wrote in my first comment, I already wrote a bugreport using reportbug. If there is none, then maybe my reportbug is not working properly. I am going to have to check this. Thanks for the advice. Best Hans Lisi, my first thought also, but... 'perhaps' Stephen *did* read the OP's

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 22 November 2014 00:47:00 Scott Ferguson wrote: On 22/11/14 09:59, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 21 November 2014 22:43:11 Ross Boylan wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/11/14 15:13, Ross Boylan wrote:

Re: Warning - bleachbit might kill KDE

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 19:07, Hans wrote: Lisi, my first thought also, but... 'perhaps' Stephen *did* read the OP's comment, and like myself, as a result of looking for the bug report in an effort to find any useful information without having to ask the OP - couldn't find any such bug report.

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 19:50, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 22 November 2014 00:47:00 Scott Ferguson wrote: On 22/11/14 09:59, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 21 November 2014 22:43:11 Ross Boylan wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread lee
Didier, you have *totally* missed the OPs point. BTW, since you assume that no systemd takeover will happen (despite it already has), what has been the outcome of the GR to support multiple init systems? Other than that, the OP has a good point. I found that every time something is related

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
Please don't top post. On 22/11/14 20:50, lee wrote: Didier, you have *totally* missed the OPs point. BTW, since you assume that no systemd takeover Hyperbole much? will happen (despite it already has), what has been the outcome of the GR to support multiple init systems? It

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Ron
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. The winner was developers will work it out themselves i.e. Debian won. Another reading being The Developpers won, Debian lost...

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
flame resistant underwear on Scott Ferguson wrote: It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. The winner was developers will work it out themselves i.e. Debian won. This whole bit about developers are not being forced to do what they don't want and developers will

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. The winner was developers will work it out themselves i.e. Debian won. Another

Asterisk security

2014-11-22 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there A lot of bugs [1] but no Debian updates. Should I be concerned? [1] For instance; http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/security/AST-2014-012.html Regards, Rob -- Comet: A very large bouncy castle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Asterisk security

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 23:20, Rob van der Putten wrote: Hi there A lot of bugs [1] but no Debian updates. Should I be concerned? Sorry - I don't have an authoritative answer to that. It 'might' help if you gave some information about which release you are using. [1] For instance;

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Ron
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:43:01 +1100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. The winner was developers will work it out themselves i.e. Debian won. Another reading being The Developpers won, Debian

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
Dear sockpuppet - I'm surprised you're still around, I heard your bridge fell on you. [saddened] On 22/11/14 23:22, Gregory Smith wrote: Social progressives won. And that's a bad thing? I'm guessing you'd prefer social regressives (the anti-social) won. snipped On 11/22/14, Scott Ferguson

Re: Warning - bleachbit might kill KDE

2014-11-22 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 06:53:07PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 21 November 2014 18:42:20 Stephen Allen wrote: So, do not use this option in bleachbit! I already filed a bugreport and think this warning might help others. You should file a bug report. Run reportbug, should be on

Re: Warning - bleachbit might kill KDE

2014-11-22 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 08:34:08AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 22/11/14 05:53, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 21 November 2014 18:42:20 Stephen Allen wrote: So, do not use this option in bleachbit! I already filed a bugreport and think this warning might help others. You should file a

Re: Asterisk security

2014-11-22 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Scott Ferguson wrote: Sorry - I don't have an authoritative answer to that. It 'might' help if you gave some information about which release you are using. Current Debian stable; 1:1.8.13.1~dfsg1-3+deb7u3 Did you scroll down and look at the Corrected in section and compare the

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 10 nov 14, 18:20:37, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/10/2014 6:18 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Am 11.11.2014 um 00:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman: Ok, then explain to me the procedure for running the installer in such a way that systemd is never installed, thus avoiding any

Re: apt-get source download has files not in git repository

2014-11-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
HI, On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:05:08PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 08:03:58AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 20 nov 14, 12:29:32, Joel Roth wrote: ... Yes, they are. I'm curious at which step they get generated. Your original post should have dbus in the command: $

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Martin Read
On 22/11/14 09:50, lee wrote: Nobody understands udev rules, Challenge accepted. *looks at /etc/udev/rules.d* *looks at /lib/udev/rules.d* I'm honestly baffled that someone who is capable of comfortably using emacs thinks these files are incomprehensible. They appear to be written in a

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 21 nov 14, 14:43:11, Ross Boylan wrote: grub needs to know where it should jump to. I don't know how it can figure that out from inside a chroot. For example, say /boot inside the chroot is mounted from sdb2. To the chroot, it's just part of the filesystem. How is grub-install to

Re: Block size confusion.

2014-11-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 21 nov 14, 12:41:35, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: Nowadays disks may hide this in their interface, but on the physical media (I'm thinking of spinning rusty platters), we still have to obey the laws of physics. Changing the magnetisation of a single spot is on neigh-impossible without

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Martin Read wrote: On 22/11/14 09:50, lee wrote: Nobody understands udev rules, Challenge accepted. *looks at /etc/udev/rules.d* *looks at /lib/udev/rules.d* I'm honestly baffled that someone who is capable of comfortably using emacs thinks these files are incomprehensible. They appear to

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Buntunub
I understand your reasons for thinking Systemd is bad for Debian. I do, and I also agree with some of them. However, Debian is composed of a diverse group of people who have every viewpoint under the sun from Systemd is the bane of Linux, to Systemd is the best thing to ever happen to Linux. No

systemctl disable does not remove /etc/rc?.d symlinks

2014-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc
hi everybody, I disabled NFS yesterday using a systemctl disable nfs-common.service. The output I got was OK, displaying the whole bunch of messages saying it updated symlinks using update-rc.d. But today, it restarted. And it is normal: the symlinks are still there. I re-did again verifying

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:59:11PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 21 November 2014 22:43:11 Ross Boylan wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/11/14 15:13, Ross Boylan wrote: Over the last week I've repeatedly found

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 04:17:20PM -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote: With curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11? If your version is newer, I thought maybe I could backport it from Jessie, but I don't know which package has the problem here, if cURL, OpenSSL, GnuTLS, etc. My version is older, as I'm using

Re: Block size confusion.

2014-11-22 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thank for you detail update. can you please also share with your experience that. when i dstat i some time see wait time between 10-17 and at that time my system works slow. and my processor shows normal. what i have read about that wait values this is due to IO issues. now my question is how

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 22 November 2014 16:03:54 Buntunub wrote: I certainly have no qualms about including Systemd in the next stable release, and I actually encourage it, so that people will have time to play with it and come to know and possibly even fall in love with it. I seriously do not

Re: systemctl disable does not remove /etc/rc?.d symlinks

2014-11-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 22 nov 14, 17:53:09, Jean-Marc wrote: hi everybody, I disabled NFS yesterday using a systemctl disable nfs-common.service. The output I got was OK, displaying the whole bunch of messages saying it updated symlinks using update-rc.d. But today, it restarted. And it is normal: the

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-22 Thread Teresa e Junior
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:56:41 -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote: Hello! I am using curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11, and when I run `curl https://www.basebit.com.br', it fails with the message: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error This works: curl --ciphers

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Joel Rees
2014/11/23 2:57 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com: On Saturday 22 November 2014 16:03:54 Buntunub wrote: I certainly have no qualms about including Systemd in the next stable release, and I actually encourage it, so that people will have time to play with it and come to know and possibly

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Buntunub
Lisi Reisz wrote Systemd is available in the current stable, (see below) and people have had time to play and fall in love with it (or not). So in how many Stable versions of Linux are you saying that it should be available, before those who wish to do so will have had long enough to play

ntpd confusion

2014-11-22 Thread mad
Hi! I'm stumped. On my home network all my Debian installations _only_ use the router as clock source. # ntpq -p remote refidst t when poll reach delay offset jitter fritz.box X.Y.Z.A 3 u- 64

Re: ntpd confusion

2014-11-22 Thread Erwan David
Le 22/11/2014 21:57, mad a écrit : Hi! I'm stumped. On my home network all my Debian installations _only_ use the router as clock source. # ntpq -p remote refidst t when poll reach delay offset jitter

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:43:01 +1100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what

virtmanager not connecting to server

2014-11-22 Thread Gary Dale
I'm running Jessie/AMD64 connecting to Wheezy/ADM64. The KVM virtual machines are on the Wheezy machine, which is a also file print server (CUPS, Samba NFS). I'm getting an error Unable to connect to libvirt. You need to install openssh-askpass or similar to connect to this host. The

How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-22 Thread Marc Shapiro
My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy. My wife has an iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the linux box, as well. I have googled. I have upgraded to the latest kernel from

systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:54:56 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: On 05/11/2014 17:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Miles, Le mercredi, 5 novembre 2014, 09.32:57 Miles Fidelman a écrit : [If you're happy with systemd, and not considering a change - please stay out of this discussion. If you object

Re: virtmanager not connecting to server

2014-11-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:41:38 -0500 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: I'm running Jessie/AMD64 connecting to Wheezy/ADM64. The KVM virtual machines are on the Wheezy machine, which is a also file print server (CUPS, Samba NFS). I'm getting an error Unable to connect to libvirt.

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joel Rees wrote: 2014/11/23 2:57 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com: On Saturday 22 November 2014 16:03:54 Buntunub wrote: I certainly have no qualms about including Systemd in the next stable release, and I actually encourage it, so that people will have

moving from 3.16-3-486 to 686

2014-11-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Months ago, installing jessie as guest on win7-64, I somehow ended up with a 486 kernel. In other previous installs it was a 686 kernel... not sure what I did. But no doubt I selected it without realizing or the like. My question is whether continuing to use the 486 versions of kernels has any

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 02:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 10 nov 14, 18:20:37, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/10/2014 6:18 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Am 11.11.2014 um 00:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman: Ok, then explain to me the procedure for running the installer in such a way that systemd is never

Re: virtmanager not connecting to server

2014-11-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 22/11/14 06:06 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:41:38 -0500 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: I'm running Jessie/AMD64 connecting to Wheezy/ADM64. The KVM virtual machines are on the Wheezy machine, which is a also file print server (CUPS, Samba NFS). I'm getting an

replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
I have a laptop (an old Asus EEEPC), and I need to replace its only disk drive with a larger one. The hardware aspects are easy -- keep static electricity away and use a screwdriver. I have the new drive on my desk already. And it's not hard to copy the file systems, either. I can

Re: moving from 3.16-3-486 to 686

2014-11-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 22/11/14 06:18 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Months ago, installing jessie as guest on win7-64, I somehow ended up with a 486 kernel. In other previous installs it was a 686 kernel... not sure what I did. But no doubt I selected it without realizing or the like. My question is whether continuing

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
In an effort to keep a ration discussion from sliding into a pointless flame-war. On 23/11/14 02:07, Martin Read wrote: On 22/11/14 09:50, lee wrote: Nobody understands udev rules, Challenge accepted. *looks at /etc/udev/rules.d* *looks at /lib/udev/rules.d* I'm honestly baffled that

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 22/11/14 06:29 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I have a laptop (an old Asus EEEPC), and I need to replace its only disk drive with a larger one. The hardware aspects are easy -- keep static electricity away and use a screwdriver. I have the new drive on my desk already. And it's not hard to copy

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:29:20 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: I have a laptop (an old Asus EEEPC), and I need to replace its only disk drive with a larger one. The hardware aspects are easy -- keep static electricity away and use a screwdriver. I have the new drive on my desk already. And it's

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-22 Thread Ron
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:49:48 + (UTC) Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: But it is absurd to say that discussing these real problems faced by Debian users, and their potential remedies, is off topic in the debian- user mailing list. Of course they are not. But they are anathema

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 03:03, Buntunub wrote: I understand your reasons for thinking Systemd is bad for Debian. I do, and I also agree with some of them. However, Debian is composed of a diverse group of people who have every viewpoint under the sun from Systemd is the bane of Linux, to Systemd is the

Re: moving from 3.16-3-486 to 686

2014-11-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Harry Putnam a écrit : My question is whether continuing to use the 486 versions of kernels has any down sides? The -486 kernel lacks support for multiprocessing/hyperthreading and PAE (which is required for NX/XD bit). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 08:47, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:43:01 +1100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: It

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Gary Dale a écrit : On 22/11/14 06:29 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: And it's not hard to copy the file systems, either. I can temporarily access the new drive using a USB adaptor. fdisk and the lvm utilities will create the new partitions and then I copy, using dd or rsync or tar/ [...] Have

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Doug
On 11/22/2014 06:34 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:29:20 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: I have a laptop (an old Asus EEEPC), and I need to replace its only disk drive with a larger one. The hardware aspects are easy -- keep static electricity away and use a screwdriver. I have

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote: My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy. My wife has an iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the linux box, as well. I have googled. I have

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-22 Thread John Hasler
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes: But they are anathema to the We are systemd of Borg, resistance is futile crowd. And then there is the Systemd is the Borg! Kill! Kill! crowd who jump into every mention of Systemd to piss and moan about the other crowd, which then retaliates. While I can and will

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