Re: Mysql failed

2016-11-17 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 11/16/16, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Hi, > > I've just discovered that MySQL on my jessie desktop box has died > unexpectedly. I'm pretty sure it was working 3/4 days ago. > > > tony@tony-lx:~$ mysql -p > Enter password: >

Re: Problems with hibernation - randomly cannot resume.

2016-11-17 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 11/17/16, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > On 11/17/2016 10:36 AM, Kamil Jońca wrote: >> Hugo Vanwoerkom writes: >> >>> On 11/17/2016 02:23 AM, Kamil Jońca wrote: Debian sid laptop. Recently I upgraded some packages. And I have problem with

Re: Problems with hibernation - randomly cannot resume.

2016-11-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
On 11/17/2016 10:36 AM, Kamil Jońca wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom writes: On 11/17/2016 02:23 AM, Kamil Jońca wrote: Debian sid laptop. Recently I upgraded some packages. And I have problem with hibernation (to disk). When I turned on it resumes, but immediately restart.

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 04:27:54 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > The Linux man pages are good, usually. The GNU man pages are atrocious. > They even admit it, right in their man pages. They (as a project, as a > whole) *hate* man pages and only write a stub that doesn't even cover > all of the

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:52:41 PM John L. Ries wrote: > that freely available code (programmers would much rather program than > document their work, which is why making one's code self-documenting is > always a plus). Just out of curiosity, have you ever seen or written

Re: No right or middle click on XFCE desktop after Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch

2016-11-17 Thread dmacdoug
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 07:50:36AM -0800, Mike Kupfer wrote: > dmacdoug wrote: > > > sure enough there is no DISPLAY environment variable set. So I set it and > > then the error message became: > > > > Failed to connect to session manager: Failed to connect to the session > > manager:

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:37:41PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > While Gnu does prefer info format to man page format (and they have > their reasons, e.g. info allows links), the man pages (usually derived > from the texinfo source) are well-structured, complete and have a > solid language. I

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:28:06PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Now you have cast upon yourself the duty of finding *one* example of > "low quality, incomprehensible documentation", so we can together try > to fix it. Otherwise nobody will believe you ;-P sudoers(5) But to be fair, the

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 04:27:54PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:23:26PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 08:58:55AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > My intention was to focus on two aspects of

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:23:26PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 08:58:55AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > My intention was to focus on two aspects of man pages in general: > > 1. they can use improvement > > Always. Definitely. Sometimes a tall order: those coming

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:52:41AM -0700, John L. Ries wrote: > If we're drowing in documentation (and I always prefer to err on the > side of too much data rather than too little), then it's in low quality, > incomprehensible documentation, not the

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 08:58:55AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > My intention was to focus on two aspects of man pages in general: > 1. they can use improvement Always. Definitely. Sometimes a tall order: those coming from the Linux

Debian v-8.5.0 Problem with Synaptic.

2016-11-17 Thread S. P. Molnar
I am running Debian v-8.5.0 and am having a problem with Synaptic. I get an error: E: jre1.8.0-112: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 127 when I attempt an installation. Apparently the version of jre was not completely removed. How do I solve this

Re: Desktop notifications?

2016-11-17 Thread Michael Milliman
On 11/17/2016 10:09 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote: I have a backup script that runs once a day with root privileges. It's handled by systemd timer and service units. I would like to have a desktop notification text when the backup is ready. What I have tried so far: I don't use normal desktop, only

Re: Progress report Re: Invoking ddrescue

2016-11-17 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 14/11/2016 à 21:23, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : If the computer has EFI boot firmware, if it is in non-legacy mode Windows XP x86/x64 cannot boot in UEFI mode. Any Windows version won't boot in UEFI mode from a disk with a DOS/MBR partition table.

Latest testing cdimage

2016-11-17 Thread Lucio Crusca
Hello, I'm trying to install the latest cd image downloaded from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso The hardware is a HP 15-G210 NL: http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04536542/?openCLC=true I've disabled Secure Boot and I'm

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread John L. Ries
If we're drowing in documentation (and I always prefer to err on the side of too much data rather than too little), then it's in low quality, incomprehensible documentation, not the good stuff. One of the weaknesses of open source is the difficulty outsiders have understanding that freely

KDE5-autostart bug

2016-11-17 Thread chatrapati
Hello! Debian testing. I think I find a bug, but I cannot understand in which package. Problem with KDE5-autostart I put firefox-esr.desktop in ~/.config/autostart/ and when I reboot system firefox-esr trying to go in IP-adress "%u". There is a string "Exec=firefox-esr %u" Do similarly

Re: chromium error: Error initializing NSS without a persistent database: NSS error code: -8023

2016-11-17 Thread Alexis Grigoriou
I get the exact same error. It happened after an apt-get upgrade. Searching the net I too did not find anything helpful.

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread Curt
On 2016-11-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> >> You could always make a start. Have you? This is, after all, open source. >> And the Wiki is, well, a Wiki. ;-) > > I don't see myself as having the technical competence to create > wiki content that would do more harm than

Re: Problems with hibernation - randomly cannot resume.

2016-11-17 Thread Kamil Jońca
Hugo Vanwoerkom writes: > On 11/17/2016 02:23 AM, Kamil Jońca wrote: >> Debian sid laptop. >> Recently I upgraded some packages. >> And I have problem with hibernation (to disk). >> When I turned on it resumes, but immediately restart. >> Unfortunately it is not always.

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 17 November 2016 14:41:23 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 11/16/2016 8:52 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 November 2016 14:13:49 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> There exist SOC projects to encourage/mentor > >> fledgling programmers. > >> Considering the state of documentation, esp

Desktop notifications?

2016-11-17 Thread Teemu Likonen
I have a backup script that runs once a day with root privileges. It's handled by systemd timer and service units. I would like to have a desktop notification text when the backup is ready. What I have tried so far: I don't use normal desktop, only i3 window manager. I installed notify-osd

Re: No right or middle click on XFCE desktop after Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch

2016-11-17 Thread Mike Kupfer
dmacdoug wrote: > sure enough there is no DISPLAY environment variable set. So I set it and > then the error message became: > > Failed to connect to session manager: Failed to connect to the session > manager: SESSION_MANAGER environment variable not defined > > I notice there are several

qemu-kvm with spice on stretch

2016-11-17 Thread Van Nelle
Hi. I am trying to run qemu with spice enabled but i cant find which packages i need to install on host machine. Anybody who has spice enabled qemu on stretch?

Re: Problems with hibernation - randomly cannot resume.

2016-11-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
On 11/17/2016 02:23 AM, Kamil Jońca wrote: Debian sid laptop. Recently I upgraded some packages. And I have problem with hibernation (to disk). When I turned on it resumes, but immediately restart. Unfortunately it is not always. Sometimes it resumes properly. What should I check/test etc? KJ

Re: Layers for the package manager

2016-11-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 brumaire, an CCXXV, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > This sounds like you're looking for debtags, which gives you the ability > > to subset packages by different tags. (For example, if you wanted all of > > the package management tools: > > >

Re: Stretch Alpha 8 netinst fails

2016-11-17 Thread marathon . durandal
On Tue, 2016-11-15 at 19:19 -0500, Michael Owen wrote: > Installation fails installing the base system: > > /lib/partman/choose_partition/60partition_tree/do_option: line 88 > > /lib/partman/active_choices/copy/choices: not found > > I've tried different hard drives, both installing on a blank

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/16/2016 9:37 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 08:13:49AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: There exist SOC projects to encourage/mentor fledgling programmers. Considering the state of documentation, esp man pages, why no SOD projects for potential tech writers. In many

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/16/2016 8:52 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2016 14:13:49 Richard Owlett wrote: There exist SOC projects to encourage/mentor fledgling programmers. Considering the state of documentation, esp man pages, why no SOD projects for potential tech writers. There is no

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 02:30:16PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > That is quite simply untrue and totally unwarranted. I explained the > problem. > I did NOT say that I regarded documentation as unimportant, nor did I imply > that documentation was unimportant. I'm sorry for putting words in

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 17 November 2016 12:12:57 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 06:39:18PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 November 2016 15:18:14 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > Your answer highlights the problem, although it's not quite what you > > > said: the pay-off is,

Re: Claws-Mail : lignes manquantes à l'impression d'un email

2016-11-17 Thread maderios
On 11/17/2016 03:02 PM, Thierry Despeyroux wrote: Oui, je me suis aperçu du même problème hier... Bonjour Vous pourriez faire un rapport de bug... -- Maderios

Re: Claws-Mail : lignes manquantes à l'impression d'un email

2016-11-17 Thread Thierry Despeyroux
Oui, je me suis aperçu du même problème hier... Thierry Le Thu, 17 Nov 2016 14:54:49 +0100, Alain Vaugham a écrit : > Bonjour la liste, > > C'est systématique. Il y a des lignes complètes ou des caractères > aléatoires qui manquent lors d'une impression. > >

Claws-Mail : lignes manquantes à l'impression d'un email

2016-11-17 Thread Alain Vaugham
Bonjour la liste, C'est systématique. Il y a des lignes complètes ou des caractères aléatoires qui manquent lors d'une impression. /Menu/Fichier/Imprimer/ (ou Ctrl+P) /Imprimer dans un fichier pdf ou ps = même défaut. Le défaut n'apparaît pas lors de l'aperçu avant l'impression. Ce défaut

Re: Installation impossible sur Acer Travelmate 2400

2016-11-17 Thread Samy Mezani
Bonjour, Le 16/11/2016 à 23:16, Samy Mezani a écrit : [...] Impossible d'installer une Debian sur un portable Acer TraveMate 2403WXMi... [...] J'ai fait plusieurs essais pour l'arcihtecture x86, en CD ou clé USB : - debian-live-8.6.0-i386-mate-desktop+nonfree.iso -

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 06:39:18PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 16 November 2016 15:18:14 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Your answer highlights the problem, although it's not quite what you said: > > the pay-off is, better docs! Which are very important. > > I said no **obvious** pay-off.

Re: probleme usb noyau 4.8

2016-11-17 Thread maderios
On 11/17/2016 11:37 AM, Jean-Michel OLTRA wrote: En fait, il semble y avoir (pour mon matériel ?) deux types de soucis : sata_nv :00:05.1: PCI-DMA: Out of IOMMU space for 65536 bytes et ohci-pci :00:02.0: HC died; cleaning up Deux posts relatifs à ça (assez vieux) :

Re: probleme usb noyau 4.8

2016-11-17 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le jeudi 17 novembre 2016, Alain Abello a écrit... > En testing aussi et passé sur 4.8.0-1 hier matin. Aucun problème avec USB > (souris, clavier) depuis. En fait, il semble y avoir (pour mon matériel ?) deux types de soucis : sata_nv :00:05.1: PCI-DMA: Out of IOMMU space

Re: [HS]Re: faire migrer un macounet dans le monde libre

2016-11-17 Thread Christophe De Natale
Le 17/11/2016 à 11:17, Pierre Malard a écrit : Le 17 nov. 2016 à 10:17, Christophe De Natale > a écrit : Le 16/11/2016 à 23:15, Pierre Malard a écrit : Ola, Vu que les Mac PPC ne sont plus vendus maintenant depuis très,

Re: [HS]Re: faire migrer un macounet dans le monde libre

2016-11-17 Thread Pierre Malard
> Le 17 nov. 2016 à 10:17, Christophe De Natale > a écrit : > > Le 16/11/2016 à 23:15, Pierre Malard a écrit : >> Ola, >> >> Vu que les Mac PPC ne sont plus vendus maintenant depuis très, très >> longtemps, >> je pars du principe que c’est un Intel. >> >

Re: probleme usb noyau 4.8

2016-11-17 Thread Alain Abello
Bonjour, En testing aussi et passé sur 4.8.0-1 hier matin. Aucun problème avec USB (souris, clavier) depuis. Alain Le 17/11/2016 à 08:40, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Bonjour, En testing, en bootant ce matin sur le noyau 4.8.0-1, j'ai eu une déconnexion des ports usb. A deux reprises,

Re: Layers for the package manager

2016-11-17 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 22 brumaire, an CCXXV, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI a écrit : > Also, if I > wanted to run another program from stable, I could build another docker > image for that, but due to the clever way docker works, there'd be only > one copy of

Re: Layers for the package manager

2016-11-17 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 brumaire, an CCXXV, Don Armstrong a écrit : > This sounds like you're looking for debtags, which gives you the ability > to subset packages by different tags. (For example, if you wanted all of > the package management tools: > > debtags search admin::package-management; > > gives

[HS]Re: faire migrer un macounet dans le monde libre

2016-11-17 Thread Christophe De Natale
Le 16/11/2016 à 23:15, Pierre Malard a écrit : Ola, Vu que les Mac PPC ne sont plus vendus maintenant depuis très, très longtemps, je pars du principe que c’est un Intel. Bonjour, Si on suit cette liste, on remarque que ce n'est pas encore "mort" : debian-powe...@lists.debian.org J'ai un G5

Problems with hibernation - randomly cannot resume.

2016-11-17 Thread Kamil Jońca
Debian sid laptop. Recently I upgraded some packages. And I have problem with hibernation (to disk). When I turned on it resumes, but immediately restart. Unfortunately it is not always. Sometimes it resumes properly. What should I check/test etc? KJ -- http://wolnelektury.pl/wesprzyj/teraz/

Re: Pendrive: Verificar/Solucionar sectores dañados

2016-11-17 Thread Rivera Valdez
¿"Solucionado"? Parece ser un problema de esta versión de gparted: $ apt-cache policy gparted gparted: Instalados: 0.18.0-1 Candidato: 0.18.0-1 Tabla de versión: *** 0.18.0-1 0 Acabo de realizar las tareas del caso con una versión anterior (en otra máquina): $ apt-cache policy gparted

Re: Pendrive: Verificar/Solucionar sectores dañados

2016-11-17 Thread Rivera Valdez
Por si acaso añado que al parecer no es algo nuevo (si estoy interpretando bien): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/1325708 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/1361594 ¿Alguna sugerencia?, ¡gracias! 2016-11-17 4:44 GMT-03:00 Rivera Valdez