Re: [SOLVED] System broken after yesterday's upgrade

2017-04-14 Thread solitone
On Thursday, 13 April 2017 12:44:06 CEST solitone wrote: > I tried and reset NVRAM, a nonvolatile random-access memory that > Macs use to store certain settings like sound volume, display resolution, > and (I realise only now) startup disk selection.. and GRUB doesn't start > any longer, it boots

Re: Fecha de última modificación de archivos

2017-04-14 Thread Esteban Monge
Hola: Hay una aplicación que se llama photorec esa permite recuperar archivos luego de borrar archivos, conserva la ultima fecha de modificación. Si has formateado el disco puede recuperar la partición con testdisk. Ambas herramientas son muy buenas y son de la misma gente , pero tienen el

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-14 Thread David Wright
On Fri 14 Apr 2017 at 12:05:38 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/13/2017 05:55 PM, Brian wrote: > >On Thu 13 Apr 2017 at 20:05:22 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > >>David is right : you don't really boot from the SD card. > > > >The OP never claimed he was booting from the SD card. He

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-14 Thread David Wright
On Fri 14 Apr 2017 at 20:02:11 (-0400), songbird wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > ... > [file a bug?] > > i'm not sure this is a bug. you've > done an expert install, but not let grub > finish so by my estimate you've left the > install where manual patching is needed. I would agree with

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-14 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... [file a bug?] i'm not sure this is a bug. you've done an expert install, but not let grub finish so by my estimate you've left the install where manual patching is needed. right now this thread is showing up via go ogle so people will find it if they have similar

Re: Inittab

2017-04-14 Thread Elias Albuquerque de Oliveira
Muito obrigado, testarei.Le 14 avr. 2017 12:35, Elias Albuquerque de Oliveira a écrit :Bom dia pessoal.Faz muitos anos que não mexia com linux e estou voltando, ainda bem.Porem estou usando debian e me incomoda muito que tudo inicia em interface grafica.Antigamente

Other's opinions about best/safest method to migrate LUN's while online

2017-04-14 Thread Joshua Schaeffer
Howdy all, We are planning on migrating several LUN's we have on an oracle box to a new NetApp all flash storage backend. We've gone through a few tests ourselves to ensure that we don't cause impact to the box and everything has been successful so far. The server will remain up during the

Re: Fecha de última modificación de archivos

2017-04-14 Thread laura
2017-04-13 17:54 GMT+02:00 JavierDebian : > El 12/04/17 a las 21:39, luis godoy escribió: > >> Una consulta, en una instalación nueva es posible encontrar archivos con >> distintas fechas? Por ejemplo de hace 6 meses atras, y con disco duro >> formateado antes de

Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > [...] >Don't even get me started on sshd.service vs. ssh.service. Do you >have any idea how hard it is to notice that extra/missing "d", and >figure out why things Simply Do Not Work? Well, that

Re: Exim4 problem?

2017-04-14 Thread Charlie
On 14/04/2017, deloptes wrote: > Charlie wrote: > >> It doesn't matter. This system needs to be reinstalled, so I won't >> bother with updates and upgrades and when I reinstall it, I will >> remove exim4 right from the word go and see how that works. > > you could identify the

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 14/04/2017 à 19:05, Richard Owlett a écrit : 2. I only install Grub the *first* time I do a Debian install. By poor design Grub puts the current install first on menu. It's not poor design. It is perfectly normal that the system which installs GRUB is first in the menu. If you don't

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 germinal, an CCXXV, Joel Rees a écrit : >> > Summary: Linux has a new system call to allow process to register as >> > adopters for orphan processes. >> Ick. I hope they don't register directly with pid1. > >

Re: comment faite-vous pour installer flashplayer?

2017-04-14 Thread Marc
En suivant les commentaires de ce fil j'ai décompressé et copié le fichier dans ~/.mozilla/plugins (que j'ai créé) et ça marche top ! Merci pour vos échanges toujours intéressant. On 14/04/2017 19:50, Jean Bernon wrote: Alex au départ de ce fil de discussion notait qu'il avait décompressé

Re: Postfix Dovecot et SSL : SSL23: unknown protocol

2017-04-14 Thread andre_debian
On Tuesday 04 April 2017 10:43:15 Thierry Bugier Pineau wrote: > le sujet a achevé de me motiver pour m'y remettre aussi. D'où mon > silence.  J'ai préparé postfix, je continue avec Dovecot dans les jours > à venir et ensuite je m'attaque au TLS pour atteindre le même niveau de > progression et

Re: Inittab

2017-04-14 Thread Rodolfo
Olá Ricardo, somente apontei sugestões, não recomendei desinstalar, na verdade, sugeri que não remova, releia o que escrevi. Abraços. Em 14 de abril de 2017 12:44, Ricardo Ramos escreveu: > Olá Rodolfo, > > Penso que não há necessidade de desinstalar o lightdm (nem

Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-14 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Greg Wooledge: > Don't even get me started on sshd.service vs. ssh.service. Do > you have any idea how hard it is to notice that extra/missing “d”, > and figure out why things Simply Do Not Work? * http://www.mail-archive.com/supervision@list.skarnet.org/msg01486.html *

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/14/2017 12:33 PM, Brian wrote: On Thu 13 Apr 2017 at 10:58:10 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/12/2017 01:49 PM, songbird wrote: another thing you can do is construct your own menu entry and put it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom file I don't see that being informative for this problem.

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Apr 2017 at 12:05:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/13/2017 05:55 PM, Brian wrote: > >On Thu 13 Apr 2017 at 20:05:22 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > >>David is right : you don't really boot from the SD card. > > > >The OP never claimed he was booting from the SD card. He

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/14/2017 12:24 PM, Brian wrote: On Wed 12 Apr 2017 at 10:14:59 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/12/2017 07:39 AM, songbird wrote: - the bios may not be set correctly to find the device. I do not see how the bios might be involved. Grub2 has been installed to the MBR of /dev/sda .

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-14 Thread Brian
On Thu 13 Apr 2017 at 10:58:10 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/12/2017 01:49 PM, songbird wrote: > > > > another thing you can do is construct your own > >menu entry and put it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom file > > I don't see that being informative for this problem. Quite the opposite; this

Re: comment faite-vous pour installer flashplayer?

2017-04-14 Thread Jean Bernon
Alex au départ de ce fil de discussion notait qu'il avait décompressé libflashplayer.so mais qu'il n'y avait plus de dossier ~/mozilla/plugins où le mettre. Personnellement je le copie effectivement dans /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree à chaque nouvelle version et ça marche bien. - Mail

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-14 Thread Brian
On Wed 12 Apr 2017 at 10:14:59 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/12/2017 07:39 AM, songbird wrote: > > > > - the bios may not be set correctly to find the device. > > I do not see how the bios might be involved. > Grub2 has been installed to the MBR of /dev/sda . > The only known reference to

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/13/2017 05:55 PM, Brian wrote: On Thu 13 Apr 2017 at 20:05:22 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: David is right : you don't really boot from the SD card. The OP never claimed he was booting from the SD card. He particularly said he did not install GRUB to the card. GRUB is on the HDD. The

Re: Inittab

2017-04-14 Thread Ricardo Ramos
Olá Rodolfo, Penso que não há necessidade de desinstalar o lightdm (nem gdm ou kdm), se o que ele necessita é somente de desactivar o modo gráfico ele pode mudar o runtime (agora chamado de target por causa do systemd). Para isso ele só precisa de apontar o default target de graphical para

Need help for bug reports

2017-04-14 Thread Willy
Hi, i found three annoying bugs: 1- Since i changed my graphics card from "geforce 8800 gts 512" to "geforce 780 ti", my pc powers off only if i add "console=ttyS1,115200" to the kernel boot parameters. Otherwise, it reboot. 2- I didn't have these messages with debian jessie 8.4 and i

Re: Inittab

2017-04-14 Thread Rodolfo
Olá Elias, primeira coisa a se fazer é remover ou desabilitar o atual gerenciador de sessão, existem gdm3, lightdm, kdm, etc, por padrão, se não me engano, o que vem instalado no Debian Jessie é o ligthdm, você precisa desinstalar ele ou desabilitá-lo: Desinstalar: # apt-get remove --purge

Re: Systemd services

2017-04-14 Thread Teemu Likonen
Greg Wooledge [2017-04-14 08:37:55-04] wrote: > Some day there will be actual end-user-friendly systemd documentation > somewhere, consolidating all of these pieces of wisdom together. I > hope. I learnd by reading systemd's really good man pages: $ man systemd.unit $ man systemd.timer

Inittab

2017-04-14 Thread Elias Albuquerque de Oliveira
Bom dia pessoal.Faz muitos anos que não mexia com linux e estou voltando, ainda bem.Porem estou usando debian e me incomoda muito que tudo inicia em interface grafica.Antigamente eu pegava o inittab e colocava init 3 e tudo se resolvia.Onde foi parar o inittab e como faço para não subir a

Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-14 Thread Martin Read
On 14/04/17 14:17, Nicolas George wrote: Le quintidi 25 germinal, an CCXXV, Greg Wooledge a écrit : Some day there will be actual end-user-friendly systemd documentation somewhere, consolidating all of these pieces of wisdom together. I hope. Note: systemd is not for end-users, it is for

Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 03:17:00PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 germinal, an CCXXV, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > Some day there will be actual end-user-friendly systemd documentation > > somewhere, consolidating all of these pieces of wisdom together. I hope. > > Note: systemd is

Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-14 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 14-04-17, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 germinal, an CCXXV, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > Some day there will be actual end-user-friendly systemd documentation > > somewhere, consolidating all of these pieces of wisdom together. I hope. > > Note: systemd is not for end-users, it is for

Re: Exim4 problem?

2017-04-14 Thread deloptes
Charlie wrote: > It doesn't matter. This system needs to be reinstalled, so I won't > bother with updates and upgrades and when I reinstall it, I will > remove exim4 right from the word go and see how that works. you could identify the reason for the misbehavior by looking at paniclog and

Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-14 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 germinal, an CCXXV, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > Some day there will be actual end-user-friendly systemd documentation > somewhere, consolidating all of these pieces of wisdom together. I hope. Note: systemd is not for end-users, it is for system administrator and distribution

Re: comment faite-vous pour installer flashplayer?

2017-04-14 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 14/04/2017 à 15:23, hamster a écrit : - un fichier libflashplayer.so Ah oui je ne l'avais pas vu desole! Il est bien la! -- Bien cordialement, Stephane Ascoet

Re: comment faite-vous pour installer flashplayer?

2017-04-14 Thread hamster
Le 14/04/2017 à 15:17, Stephane Ascoet a écrit : > Le 05/04/2017 à 18:26, hamster a écrit : >> Le 05/04/2017 à 17:54, Haricophile a écrit : >>> De fait j'ai assez longtemps utilisé la méthode de télécharger le > >>> .tar.gz chez Adobe, de le décompresser et de copier le .so dans > >>

Re: comment faite-vous pour installer flashplayer?

2017-04-14 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 05/04/2017 à 18:26, hamster a écrit : Le 05/04/2017 à 17:54, Haricophile a écrit : De fait j'ai assez longtemps utilisé la méthode de télécharger le > .tar.gz chez Adobe, de le décompresser et de copier le .so dans > ~/.mozilla/plugins Aaaahhh, merci pour cette astuce d'une grande

Re: Exim4 problem? solved- just for completeness.....

2017-04-14 Thread Charlie
On 14/04/2017, deloptes wrote: > Charlie wrote: > >> /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly broken > > This is common for exim . > 1. check the paniclog > 2. take actions if needed based on 1. > 3. remove paniclog > 4. proceed with restart > > it has

Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:01:25PM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > ... albeit poorly. If one wants to run daemontools under systemd, svscanboot > is > not the way; svscanboot is a thing of the past > http://jdebp.eu./FGA/inittab-is-history.html#svscanboot , and was a source of >

Re: Exim4 problem?

2017-04-14 Thread Charlie
On 14/04/2017, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:35:42 +1000 > Charlie wrote: > >> Received this on attempted upgrade: >> >> systemctl status exim4.service >> ● exim4.service - LSB: exim Mail Transport Agent >>Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/exim4;

Re: Exim4 problem?

2017-04-14 Thread Charlie
On 14/04/2017, deloptes wrote: > Charlie wrote: > >> /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly broken > > This is common for exim . > 1. check the paniclog > 2. take actions if needed based on 1. > 3. remove paniclog > 4. proceed with restart > > it has

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-14 Thread Reco
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 06:37:03PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 06:44:08PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Describing Fedora as 'community-driven' distribution is a gross > > oversimplification. It's not that I disagree with initial assessment - > > they don't sell you Debian

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-14 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > Thanks for you nice, condescending tone. Very much appreciated. I am sorry you take it that way. It was not meant to, and thinking about it again, I see nothing condescending in assuming, based on your statement, that you are not

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 11:40:29AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > You keep repeating this misconception. "Could be" "nobody would". By your > > logic, Apache and PostgreSQL (among many

Re: ssl isues are Eating me alive.

2017-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 01:01:24PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:54:32AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > > This started out a year or so ago with the occasional site in > > which lynx would report that it was unable to establish a TLS > > connection with

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-14 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 germinal, an CCXXV, Joel Rees a écrit : > > Summary: Linux has a new system call to allow process to register as > > adopters for orphan processes. > Ick. I hope they don't register directly with pid1. I am sorry, but that does not even make sense. > Or you could have pid1 monitor

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-14 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > You keep repeating this misconception. "Could be" "nobody would". By your > logic, Apache and PostgreSQL (among many following this model) wouldn't > work. They do. Pretty reliably, at that. I am sorry, but you are mistaken here,

Re: Petit souci penible avec VirtualBox

2017-04-14 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 13/04/2017 17:57, debheal a écrit : WDS ? [1] Bonjour, oui, nous utilisons uniquement ce systeme pour nos installations de window$ NT a l'universite. Nous avons deux serveurs: le plus ancien fonctionne avec les versions recentes de Virtualbox(d'ou l'installation d'une de celles-ci), le

Re: Exim4 problem?

2017-04-14 Thread deloptes
Charlie wrote: > /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly broken This is common for exim . 1. check the paniclog 2. take actions if needed based on 1. 3. remove paniclog 4. proceed with restart it has nothing to do with systemd. it is exims "normal" behavior regards

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:20:02PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: [...] > Yet, PID 1 is still the only immortal process, unless you have another > new mutant power to produce, and that property is needed to have a > reliable monitoring system.

Re: Almost all gpg2 operations hang after upgrade to stretch/testing

2017-04-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 09:43:26AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > Part of Google's perceived superiority is that it "learns to know > > you": a couple of search terms thrown in, for Google is "search terms > > + context", while for DDG,

Re: Exim4 problem?

2017-04-14 Thread Joe
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:35:42 +1000 Charlie wrote: > Received this on attempted upgrade: > > systemctl status exim4.service > ● exim4.service - LSB: exim Mail Transport Agent >Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/exim4; generated; vendor preset: > enabled) Active: failed

Re: Exim4 problem?

2017-04-14 Thread Charlie
On 14/04/2017, songbird wrote: > Charlie wrote: >> Received this on attempted upgrade: >> >> systemctl status exim4.service >> ● exim4.service - LSB: exim Mail Transport Agent >>Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/exim4; generated; vendor preset: enabled) >>Active: failed

Re: Petit souci penible avec Virtual Box

2017-04-14 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 13/04/2017 17:55, VieuxGeek DuSystem a écrit : Mais bon je me lance, ma question : as tu activé la virtualisation dans ton bios? Bonjour, oui bien sur, VirtualBox fonctionne, c'est juste qu'a chaque demarrage du systeme il faut refaire un vboxconfig, c'est long et penible. -- Bien