Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 09:59:09PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > OTOH my startup files set Mywiredifname for scripts to use, where: > > Mywiredifname=$(ip -o link show | sed -e '/^[0-9]\+: [^e]/d;s/[0-9]\+: > \([^:]\+\): .*/\1/;q') > > $ echo $Mywiredifname > enp3s0 unicorn:~$ ip -o link show

Re: bash completion and spaces

2021-04-23 Thread David Wright
On Thu 22 Apr 2021 at 21:38:53 (+0700), Victor Sudakov wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > > > I have an example app which can be run only as "app3 -h test1 -s foo" or > > > "app3 -h test2 -s bar". So I decided to provide it with a small manual > > > completion for

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread David Wright
On Fri 23 Apr 2021 at 13:23:31 (-0400), Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > All of the adapters that come as a single item have worked great. You > just have to track down the new identifier, e.g. one of mine is > "enx00909e9dd1ee". That long value goes wherever one normally types in > eth0, enp1s0,

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

2021-04-23 Thread Weaver
On 24-04-2021 08:25, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. >> Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the >> baggage associated with either an "office suite," or >> a "desktop environment?" > > I can

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

2021-04-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. > Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the > baggage associated with either an "office suite," or > a "desktop environment?" I can mention `gnumeric` and if you're into Emacs I can

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

2021-04-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
sure, teapot. On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, Dan Ritter wrote: > Bob Bernstein wrote: > > Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. > > > > Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the > > baggage associated with either an "office suite,"

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

2021-04-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Bob Bernstein wrote: > Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. > > Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the > baggage associated with either an "office suite," or a "desktop > environment?" > Sure. treesheets pyspread sc

OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

2021-04-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the baggage associated with either an "office suite," or a "desktop environment?" Thx, -- "...that there is no getting away from the central

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Morgan Read
On 23/04/2021 6:20 pm, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I suggest you look inside those .deb files: they seem to both name the > package they install `master-pdf-editor` but dpkg does not allow > installing different versions of a given package at the same time. > So you'll need to edit those `.deb` to

Re: pregunta: claus usuaris/es Debian

2021-04-23 Thread Àlex
El 20/4/21 a les 10:26, Eloi ha escrit: > El 20/4/21 a les 10:12, Alex Muntada ha escrit: >> Que hagis rebut els correus pot voler dir que estàs subscrit a >> alguna llista (segurament debian-vote). Si mires les capçaleres >> dels correus amb la convocatòria de les votacions en trobaràs una >>

Xen VGA passthrough working again in Debian stable!

2021-04-23 Thread Fr. Chuck Zmudzinski, C.P.M.
An old bug (#776742) reported over six years ago by Brian Paterni concerns Xen and VGA passthrough for full graphics performance in a virtual machine, and it was recently closed without being solved. About seven years ago, Xen had the best support for this feature but it has broken for a long

Xen VGA passthrough working again in Debian stable!

2021-04-23 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
An old bug (#776742) reported over six years ago by Brian Paterni concerns Xen and VGA passthrough for full graphics performance in a virtual machine, and it was recently closed without being solved. About seven years ago, Xen had the best support for this feature but it has broken for a long

Re: Nvidia graphic card and newer kernels (open source driver)

2021-04-23 Thread Felix Miata
Malte Marwedel composed on 2021-04-23 18:31 (UTC+0200): > Any Ideas? I don't want to install the closed source module, I had > enough pain with fglrx ~10 years ago. I've never installed NVidia's proprietary drivers

Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates

2021-04-23 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 23/04/2021 à 21:07, Yvan Masson a écrit : Le 23/04/2021 à 20:18, didier gaumet a écrit : 1) Unattended-upgrade at shutdown and after Lightdm is stopped: Perhaps a solution would be to : - stop and disable the unattended-upgrade systemd service - edit the unattended-upgrades config

Re: dovecot packages

2021-04-23 Thread Christian Schmidt
Hello, Michael Grant, 19.04.21: Just noticed on the dovecot.org site, the latest version of dovecot seems to be v2.3.14, but on the dovecot package tracker on the debian site:https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dovecot, we're at v2.3.13. offers packages for Debian,

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Albretch Mueller wrote: > > What you lose this way (besides time) is having apt calculate > > which supporting packages you need. However, > > > https://packages.debian.org > > > will happily tell you all the dependencies of any given package, > > and then you can get all the dependencies of

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-23 Thread Albretch Mueller
> What you lose this way (besides time) is having apt calculate > which supporting packages you need. However, > https://packages.debian.org > will happily tell you all the dependencies of any given package, > and then you can get all the dependencies of each of those, and > so on. yes, and

Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates

2021-04-23 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 23/04/2021 à 20:18, didier gaumet a écrit : 1) Unattended-upgrade at shutdown and after Lightdm is stopped: Perhaps a solution would be to : - stop and disable the unattended-upgrade systemd service - edit the unattended-upgrades config file to setup the shutdown to false -

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> You probably want to look inside the control archives rather than the > data archives: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deb_%28file_format%29 > > If both control archive files are using a package name of > "master-pdf-editor", you can try Stefan's suggestion of renaming one > and seeing if

Re: Enregistrement opendmarc

2021-04-23 Thread didier gaumet
J'y connais vraiment pas grand chose mais peut-être que paramétrer dans /etc/opendmarc.conf IgnoreAuthenticatedClients à true pourrait solutionner le pb? des types qui s'y entendent mieux que moi (c'est pas difficile ;-) ) en parlent là:

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Richmond wrote: > Dan Ritter writes: > > > Richmond wrote: > >> Looks like this bug: > >> > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1798921 > > > > Could be. > > > > In which case, this will be solved in the new Stable, most > > likely out in May or June. > > > > You could try

Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates

2021-04-23 Thread didier gaumet
1) Unattended-upgrade at shutdown and after Lightdm is stopped: Perhaps a solution would be to : - stop and disable the unattended-upgrade systemd service - edit the unattended-upgrades config file to setup the shutdown to false - write/enable/start your custom systemd service that runs

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Richmond
Dan Ritter writes: > Richmond wrote: >> Looks like this bug: >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1798921 > > Could be. > > In which case, this will be solved in the new Stable, most > likely out in May or June. > > You could try a backports kernel before that. > I tried

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:48:13 +0100 Morgan Read wrote: > On 23/04/2021 6:20 pm, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I suggest you look inside those .deb files: they seem to both name the > > package they install `master-pdf-editor` but dpkg does not allow > > installing different versions of a given

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:07:02 +0100 Morgan Read wrote: > On 23/04/2021 5:40 pm, Celejar wrote: > > I'll defer to those with a better understanding of the debian packaging > > system internals, and it may depend on the details of the package, but > > I'm pretty sure that there's no general way to

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 4/23/21, Dan Ritter wrote: > Richmond wrote: >> > Let's try from the bottom up? >> > >> > ip link show >> > will show you the interfaces recognized by the kernel. If this >> > works, it might show you an eth0, an en0, or something like a >> > enp22s0 device. Let's call it "SAM". >> >>

Re: bullseye fslint

2021-04-23 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 10:30 AM The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-04-23 at 11:27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 07:50:45AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> grep -i 'fs|filesystem'" finds rmlint, which looks like it might do > >> the > > > > FYI that needs to be egrep, or grep

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> $ sudo apt install ./master-pdf-editor-4.3.89_qt5.x86_64.deb > ./master-pdf-editor-5.7.08-qt5_included.x86_64.deb > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Note, selecting 'master-pdf-editor' instead of >

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 4/23/21, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 23 Apr 2021 at 10:49:00 (+0100), Richmond wrote: >> Cindy Sue Causey writes: >> >> > Questions where answers might help come to mind. Primarily, has this >> > always occurred, or did it just start up in the last couple days? >> >> It has occured since

Re: Nvidia graphic card and newer kernels (open source driver)

2021-04-23 Thread Viktor Vogel
Just a data point - I'd been using nvidia cards for years. Onmy current workstation, a Dell XPS 8930, the nvidia binary blob worked well, unless and until I booted a kernel other than the straight vanilla from the distro. After upgrading to the low latency kernel, it was goodbye GUI. So I

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:22:48 +0100 Morgan Read wrote: > Hello Folks, > > Some little time ago I made a jump from another distro into Debian. > > When I made that jump I took with me a few proprietary applications that > I make a lot of use of. One in particular is causing me a bit of a >

Nvidia graphic card and newer kernels (open source driver)

2021-04-23 Thread Malte Marwedel
Has anyone experience with Nvidia cards without closed source drivers and newer kernels? Recently my AMD card died, so I got a fast replacement from a friend - a GeForce GTX 660. With the kernel 5.5.9, the PC stops booting after GRUB. The kernel tries to set the resolution of the console and

installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Morgan Read
Hello Folks, Some little time ago I made a jump from another distro into Debian. When I made that jump I took with me a few proprietary applications that I make a lot of use of. One in particular is causing me a bit of a headache - Master PDF Editor by Code Industry:

installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Morgan Read
Hello Folks, Some little time ago I made a jump from another distro into Debian. When I made that jump I took with me a few proprietary applications that I make a lot of use of. One in particular is causing me a bit of a headache - Master PDF Editor by Code Industry:

Enregistrement opendmarc

2021-04-23 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Bonsoir à tous, J'entretiens plusieurs serveurs de mails (fonctionnant avec sendmail, mais là n'est pas le souci). Ces serveurs fonctionnent bien, mais je me suis aperçu que certains mails n'arrivaient sur certains domaines que je ne citerais pas malgré SPFv1 et DKIM.

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread David Wright
On Fri 23 Apr 2021 at 10:49:00 (+0100), Richmond wrote: > Cindy Sue Causey writes: > > > Questions where answers might help come to mind. Primarily, has this > > always occurred, or did it just start up in the last couple days? > > It has occured since installing debian (10). Prior to that I

Re: bullseye fslint

2021-04-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 11:29:59AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-04-23 at 11:27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 07:50:45AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> grep -i 'fs|filesystem'" finds rmlint, which looks like it might do > >> the > > > > FYI that needs to be

Re: bullseye fslint

2021-04-23 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-04-23 at 11:27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 07:50:45AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> grep -i 'fs|filesystem'" finds rmlint, which looks like it might do >> the > > FYI that needs to be egrep, or grep -E, in order for the | character > to work as you intend. Yeah -

Re: bullseye fslint

2021-04-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 07:50:45AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > grep -i 'fs|filesystem'" finds rmlint, which looks like it might do the FYI that needs to be egrep, or grep -E, in order for the | character to work as you intend.

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Richmond wrote: > Looks like this bug: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1798921 Could be. In which case, this will be solved in the new Stable, most likely out in May or June. You could try a backports kernel before that. -dsr-

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Richmond
Looks like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1798921

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Richmond wrote: > > Let's try from the bottom up? > > > > ip link show > > will show you the interfaces recognized by the kernel. If this > > works, it might show you an eth0, an en0, or something like a > > enp22s0 device. Let's call it "SAM". > > Thanks for your reply. > > enp2s0:

Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates

2021-04-23 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 23/04/2021 à 12:14, didier gaumet a écrit : Le 23/04/2021 à 11:59, didier gaumet a écrit : I should check what I wrote before posting :-( [...] Disclaimer: I have never experimented myself whait I suggest "what" [...] As for Plymouth notifying about ugrades during shutdown, if it is not

Re: bullseye fslint

2021-04-23 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 4/23/21 4:50 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2021-04-23 at 07:29, Peter Ehlert wrote: fslint is gone. what alternatives are there? I've never used such a tool myself, but a quick "apt-cache search lint | grep -i 'fs|filesystem'" finds rmlint, which looks like it might do the job... I want a

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-23 Thread Darac Marjal
On 22/04/2021 20:53, Albretch Mueller wrote: [cut] > I would also love to see networking taken out of the Linux kernel, > but this is an entirely different, hellishly "political" issue. It's not quite the same thing, but you might be able to get what you want with the Debian HURD port

Re: bullseye fslint

2021-04-23 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-04-23 at 07:29, Peter Ehlert wrote: > fslint is gone. what alternatives are there? I've never used such a tool myself, but a quick "apt-cache search lint | grep -i 'fs|filesystem'" finds rmlint, which looks like it might do the job... > I want a GUI in the debian repos ...and

bullseye fslint

2021-04-23 Thread Peter Ehlert
fslint is gone. what alternatives are there? I want a GUI in the debian repos

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 23 apr 21, 10:46:21, Richmond wrote: > Dan Ritter writes: > > > > If any part of SAM reads "down", do this: > > > > sudo ip link set up SAM > > ip link set up enp2s0 > > No output here but the link is still down. This suggests to me the problem is at a lower level, i.e. the kernel

Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates

2021-04-23 Thread didier gaumet
Le 23/04/2021 à 11:59, didier gaumet a écrit : I should check what I wrote before posting :-( [...] Disclaimer: I have never experimented myself whait I suggest "what" [...] As for Plymouth notifying about ugrades during shutdown, if it is not already the case (when unattended-upgrades the

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Richmond
Dan Ritter writes: > Richmond wrote: >> When I resume from suspend there is no networking. I cannot find a way >> to restart it. I tried these various commands. >> >> systemctl restart network >> /etc/init.d/networking restart >> systemctl reset-failed >> systemctl restart networking.service

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-23 Thread Richmond
Thanks for your reply. Cindy Sue Causey writes: > Questions where answers might help come to mind. Primarily, has this > always occurred, or did it just start up in the last couple days? It has occured since installing debian (10). Prior to that I was using opensuse. > > I'm on a new old

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2021 #410

2021-04-23 Thread Natalie Grobler
Unsubscribe On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 1:50 PM wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain > > debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2021 : > Issue 410 > > Today's Topics: > Re: Postfix configuration on Bullsey [ Darac Marjal < > mailingl...@darac.org ] > Buster Apache php

Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates

2021-04-23 Thread didier gaumet
Le 23/04/2021 à 09:48, Yvan Masson a écrit : [...] I would expect the session to be completely closed, LightDM stopped, and the console or Plymouth displaying a message indicating the ongoing updates. [...] Hello, Disclaimer: I have never experimented myself whait I suggest Perhaps adapting

Re: Any Debian BPMN editor (or a converter)?

2021-04-23 Thread Michael-John Turner
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 04:24:33PM -0300, Markos wrote: Any suggetion about an alternative of editor or a converter that converts a file in the format, for example svg (or any other), to bpmn? I can't comment specifically on how well it works importing SVGs as I've not used that functionality,

Re: Grub et boot plus que bizarres

2021-04-23 Thread ajh-valmer
On Friday 23 April 2021 00:22:21 fabricer wrote: > as-tu réessayé de réinstaller grub sur sda1 et sda2 ? J'ai réinstallé grub depuis sda1, selon mon commentaire ci-dessous, car je ne peux pas booter sur sda2. > Le 22/04/2021 à 17:02, ajh-valmer a écrit : > > On Tuesday 20 April 2021 11:12:21

Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates

2021-04-23 Thread Yvan Masson
Hi list, I am preparing some Debian 11 desktops for a school (for when it will be the new stable). The setup is very simple: no root account, one partition, tasks desktop/Cinnamon/SSH. Unattended-upgrades is configured to install updates on shutdown (see 1): upgrading works properly, but is