Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 03:33:23PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2023-06-16 14:32 (UTC-0400): > > > greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. > > > Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after > > entering my pw. So

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: [...] > Please forgive my ignorance. But from what I've heard, apt and apt-get > manage packages differently, and aptitude does it differently as well. > Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed? Actually they

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/23 23:04, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: [...] Please forgive my ignorance. But from what I've heard, apt and apt-get manage packages differently, and aptitude does it differently as well. Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed? You'd think this would a high priority for

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread John Hasler
Paul writes: > Please forgive my ignorance. But from what I've heard, apt and apt-get > manage packages differently, and aptitude does it differently as well. Apt-get: DESCRIPTION apt-get is the command-line tool for handling packages, and may be considered the user's "back-end" to

Re: Strange message

2023-06-16 Thread Maureen L Thomas
I followed the instructions but they did not work.  Now what? On 6/15/23 8:27 AM, ogis wrote: Hello. Just check this: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=150193 15.06.2023 08:09, Maureen L Thomas пишет: Failed to receive portal pid: org.freedesktop.DBus, error, NameHasNoOwner

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread John Hasler
Paul writes: > Here's a reason to use a GUI package manager (or even aptitude): you > want a package which does X, and you don't know which packages do > that. And therefor I use apt-cache search to find it. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I really don't understand why people want a GUI package manager at all. I always use the plain "batch command line" tools like `apt` or `aptitude`, indeed (and not the ncurses UI of `aptitude` which I found difficult to use when I tried it). But I think the reason is quite simple: while most

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread paulf
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 15:14:43 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > On 6/16/23 14:38, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 2:32 PM gene heskett > > wrote: > >> > >> greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. > >> > >> Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread paulf
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:17:07 -0400 gene heskett wrote: [snip] > So all my cnc machines are still on buster, and will stay there until > wayland CAN replace X11. wayland is just barely able to run a simple > gui, and until it can transparently do everything X11 has done for > decades, its

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread paulf
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 19:40:54 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > On 6/16/23 18:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > >> 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > >> Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. > >> After this operation,

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread paulf
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:41:08 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. > > After this operation, 206 MB of additional disk space will be

pilote nvidia propriétaire et noyau 6.3

2023-06-16 Thread F. Dubois
Bonsoir, Je suis en unstable, lors de la construction des modules du pilote nvidia (avec dkms), pour le tout récent noyau linux-headers-6.3.0-1-amd64 et linux-image-6.3.0-1-amd64 une erreur se produit. Building module: Cleaning build area... env NV_VERBOSE=1 make -j4 modules

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 07:40:54PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/16/23 18:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Now, granted, this is just my personal stance. I may be atypical. > > That said, what exactly does a GUI package manager offer you, that > > you can't get from "apt install thing-i-want"? >

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/23 18:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. After this operation, 206 MB of additional disk space will be used. I really don't understand

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread David
On Fri, 2023-06-16 at 18:41 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. > > After this operation, 206 MB of additional disk space will be used.

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. > After this operation, 206 MB of additional disk space will be used. I really don't understand why people want a GUI package manager

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/23 17:49, Antonio Russo wrote: On 2023-06-16 13:14, gene heskett wrote: Has aptitude been tamed? I've stayed away from it now for years because its torn the system down with its idea of dependencies, to doing a reinstall 4 times in the decade passed. I do not trust it at all, been

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/23 15:33, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2023-06-16 14:32 (UTC-0400): greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Antonio Russo
On 2023-06-16 13:14, gene heskett wrote: > Has aptitude been tamed? > > I've stayed away from it now for years because its torn the system down with > its idea of dependencies, to doing a reinstall 4 times in the decade passed. > I do not trust it at all, been burned to the ground too many

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Jun 2023 at 15:14:43 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > Has aptitude been tamed? I don't think aptitude ever needed taming, unlike your TERM setting. > I've stayed away from it now for years because its torn the system > down with its idea of dependencies, to doing a reinstall 4 times in

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-16 14:32 (UTC-0400): > greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. > Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after > entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for selection is > compatible with wayland?

Re: mail --> mutt

2023-06-16 Thread Jordi
Gracies per les respostes i perdoneu que trigui a contestar, però a la feina no puc mirar el correu (per falta de temps) El dj. 15 de 06 de 2023 a les 20:57 +0200, en/na Narcis Garcia va escriure: > El 15/6/23 a les 18:05, Ernest Adrogué ha escrit: > > 2023-06-15, 10:29 (+0200); Jordi escriu: > >

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/23 14:38, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 2:32 PM gene heskett wrote: greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for

Re: Apache logs and systemd

2023-06-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:38:40PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I should have mentioned in OP the logs are in a dir under my own apache > installation dir, and they are text files. I’ll try to get “logrotate” to > take them over. It should happen by default. Normally logrotate is called

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 2:32 PM gene heskett wrote: > > greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. > > Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after > entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for selection is > compatible with wayland?

package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for selection is compatible with wayland? Something I can get apt to install from a sudo -i shell?

Re: puis-je faire confiance a ce disque ?

2023-06-16 Thread Th.A.C
Le 16/06/2023 à 08:34, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : Bonjour, J'en pense que c'est un Seagate. J'ai eu des tas de disques comme ça qui montraient des valeurs aberrantes et j'ai creusé. Il s'avère que le problème est un firmware buggué et que Seagate n'en a rien à faire. Tant que

Re: Libérer l'espace après suppression de fichiers de log énormes dans /var + éviter d'atteindre le blocage

2023-06-16 Thread Eric DEGENETAIS
Le ven. 16 juin 2023 à 16:36, Frédéric BOITEUX a écrit : > Bonjour, > bonsoir > > > Quand /var/log/ se remplit de messages d'erreur (messages syslog et > user.messages), ça sonne puisque plus rien qui utilise /var ne peut > fonctionner ! > > Si root supprime les fichiers remplis de la

Re: Apache logs and systemd

2023-06-16 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 16:57 Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Tom, > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 01:52:10PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > Maybe it's related to the rsyslog changes ? > > apache by default does not use a syslog for logging though, it … Thanks, Andy. I should have mentioned in OP the logs

Re: Bluetooth driver error on boot after upgrade to bookworm

2023-06-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-06-16 at 11:00, Unni wrote: > Hello, > > I am getting Bluetooth firmware error after upgrade. I've tried > reinstalling firmware-iwlwifi. But no luck. I've added non-free-firmware > in apt source, so thats not the issue. Help me to fix the error on booth. From that last, I'm presuming

Re: tp-link tl-sf1005d version 7.1

2023-06-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 03:14:02PM +0200, Aleix Piulachs wrote: > hallo debian gentlemen If you only talk to gentlemen, you might receive less help :-) > i can’t connect to the LAN from bullseye with > tp-link tl-sf1005d version 7.1 > I’ve a hp6830s i386 with bullseye and intel pentium dual cpu

Bluetooth driver error on boot after upgrade to bookworm

2023-06-16 Thread Unni
Hello, I am getting Bluetooth firmware error after upgrade. I've tried reinstalling firmware-iwlwifi. But no luck. I've added non-free-firmware in apt source, so thats not the issue. Help me to fix the error on booth. ~# dmesg | egrep -i 'bluetooth' [    6.051557] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.22 [ 

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-16 Thread Susmita/Rajib
From: Me Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 19:23:26 +0200 Message-id: <[] 568e7aa9-e061-194a-13f8-8e2379f69...@nodatagrabbing.com> In-reply-to: <[] caeg4czxryyivofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gmail.com> References: <[] caeg4czxryyivofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gmail.com> and

RE: Libérer l'espace après suppression de fichiers de log énormes dans /var + éviter d'atteindre le blocage

2023-06-16 Thread Frédéric BOITEUX
Bonjour, > Quand /var/log/ se remplit de messages d'erreur (messages syslog et > user.messages), ça sonne puisque plus rien qui utilise /var ne peut > fonctionner ! > Si root supprime les fichiers remplis de la même alerte, /var reste rempli à > 100%. Oui, c’est un classique ! Tant

Re: RAID5 (Mdadm) non fonctionnel sous Debian 11

2023-06-16 Thread NoSpam
Bonjour. Pour gérer le RAID il faut savoir quel est est le controleur de la machine: sudo lpci|grep RAID puis chercher quel est le module chargé de sa gestion et le charger. Le 16/06/2023 à 15:10, Romain P. a écrit : Bonjour Je suis passé de Debian 10 à Debian 11 et volume RAID5, géré par la

RAID5 (Mdadm) non fonctionnel sous Debian 11

2023-06-16 Thread Romain P.
Bonjour Je suis passé de Debian 10 à Debian 11 et volume RAID5, géré par la carte mère, n'est pas reconnu. Créé sous Windows 10, il fonctionnait sous Debian 10 juste en installant Mdadm. Sous certaines distributions, Mdadm est inclus et mon RAID5 fonctionne sans paramétrage. J'ai lu

Re: Libérer l'espace après suppression de fichiers de log énormes dans /var + éviter d'atteindre le blocage

2023-06-16 Thread Thomas Trupel
Bonjour, Une piste avec https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/systemd/tmpfiles.d.5.en.html ? Cordialement, Thomas 16 juin 2023 11:47:14 roger.tar...@free.fr: > Bonjour, > > Quand /var/log/ se remplit de messages d'erreur (messages syslog et > user.messages), ça sonne puisque plus rien qui

Re: Unexpected change in behavior for adduser

2023-06-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Jun 2023 at 14:19:52 (+0200), Diego Fioravanti wrote: > I am not sure if this is a bug in Debian, expected behaviour or something > else, so I decided to write here before opening a bug. Maybe someone can > help me out and tell me if it is something I should report. > > I am using the

tp-link tl-sf1005d version 7.1

2023-06-16 Thread Aleix Piulachs
hallo debian gentlemen i can’t connect to the LAN from bullseye with tp-link tl-sf1005d version 7.1 I’ve a hp6830s i386 with bullseye and intel pentium dual cpu t3400 could you help me with this please?

Re: Unexpected change in behavior for adduser

2023-06-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 02:19:52PM +0200, Diego Fioravanti wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am not sure if this is a bug in Debian, expected behaviour or something > else, so I decided to write here before opening a bug. Maybe someone can > help me out and tell me if it is something I should report. >

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/14/23 12:01, Sascha Silbe wrote: Hello, gene heskett writes: That's Debian#1035094 [1]. A fix was uploaded three weeks ago and is available in bullseye-proposed-updates [2] but not the regular Bullseye repository. If I understand the status page [3] correctly it's only scheduled for the

Unexpected change in behavior for adduser

2023-06-16 Thread Diego Fioravanti
Hi everyone, I am not sure if this is a bug in Debian, expected behaviour or something else, so I decided to write here before opening a bug. Maybe someone can help me out and tell me if it is something I should report. I am using the official python docker image which builds out of Bullseye

Re: Libérer l'espace après suppression de fichiers de log énormes dans /var + éviter d'atteindre le blocage

2023-06-16 Thread Alain Vaugham
Le Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:46:49 +0200 (CEST), roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit : > Egalement, comment éviter que /var ( partition dédiée ) bloque la > machine quand il est plein ? Pour éviter de remplir /var à cause de la pollution des logs, je créé une partition dédiée /var/log. -- Alain Vaugham

Re: Libérer l'espace après suppression de fichiers de log énormes dans /var + éviter d'atteindre le blocage

2023-06-16 Thread plapla
Le 16/06/2023 à 11:46, roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Quand /var/log/ se remplit de messages d'erreur (messages syslog et user.messages), ça sonne puisque plus rien qui utilise /var ne peut fonctionner ! Si root supprime les fichiers remplis de la même alerte, /var reste rempli à

Re: Libérer l'espace après suppression de fichiers de log énormes dans /var + éviter d'atteindre le blocage

2023-06-16 Thread elguero eric
il faut aussi surveiller /var/tmp j'y ai trouvé un jour des fichiers de plusieurs gigas. e.e. Le vendredi 16 juin 2023 à 11:47:12 UTC+2, roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Quand /var/log/ se remplit de messages d'erreur (messages syslog et user.messages), ça sonne puisque

Re: Libérer l'espace après suppression de fichiers de log énormes dans /var + éviter d'atteindre le blocage

2023-06-16 Thread NoSpam
Bonjour Le 16/06/2023 à 11:46, roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Quand /var/log/ se remplit de messages d'erreur (messages syslog et user.messages), ça sonne puisque plus rien qui utilise /var ne peut fonctionner ! Si root supprime les fichiers remplis de la même alerte, /var reste

Libérer l'espace après suppression de fichiers de log énormes dans /var + éviter d'atteindre le blocage

2023-06-16 Thread roger . tarani
Bonjour, Quand /var/log/ se remplit de messages d'erreur (messages syslog et user.messages), ça sonne puisque plus rien qui utilise /var ne peut fonctionner ! Si root supprime les fichiers remplis de la même alerte, /var reste rempli à 100%. Il y aurait bien un lsof puis un kill de tout ce

Re: puis-je faire confiance a ce disque ?

2023-06-16 Thread BERTRAND Joël
hamster a écrit : > Le 16/06/2023 à 11:21, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : >> hamster a écrit : >>> Le 16/06/2023 à 08:34, BERTRAND Joël a écrit :  Bonjour,  J'en pense que c'est un Seagate. J'ai eu des tas de disques comme ça qui montraient des valeurs aberrantes et j'ai

Re: puis-je faire confiance a ce disque ?

2023-06-16 Thread hamster
Le 16/06/2023 à 11:21, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : hamster a écrit : Le 16/06/2023 à 08:34, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : Bonjour, J'en pense que c'est un Seagate. J'ai eu des tas de disques comme ça qui montraient des valeurs aberrantes et j'ai creusé. Il s'avère que le problème est un

Re: puis-je faire confiance a ce disque ?

2023-06-16 Thread BERTRAND Joël
hamster a écrit : > Le 16/06/2023 à 08:34, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : >> Bonjour, >> >> J'en pense que c'est un Seagate. J'ai eu des tas de disques comme ça >> qui montraient des valeurs aberrantes et j'ai creusé. Il s'avère que le >> problème est un firmware buggué et que Seagate n'en a rien

Re: puis-je faire confiance a ce disque ?

2023-06-16 Thread hamster
Le 16/06/2023 à 06:05, Virgile Jarrige a écrit : Bonjour, >qu'en pensez-vous ? est-ce que je peux continuer a faire confiance a ce >disque ou bien est-ce que je prévois d'avoir a le changer bientot ? N'étant pas un expert, pour savoir quel message d'un rapport smart est critique je me réfère

Re: puis-je faire confiance a ce disque ?

2023-06-16 Thread hamster
Le 16/06/2023 à 08:34, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : hamster a écrit : j'ai un disque dur pour lequel badblocks s'est terminé sans erreurs, l'auto-test de smart s'est aussi terminé sans erreurs, pourtant dans le rapport de smart je vois 3 chiffres qui m'inquietent : Raw_Read_Error_Rate 70428466

Re: apt-cdrom: How do I use the flash drive as a CD-ROM to install software in Debian 12?

2023-06-16 Thread David Wright
On Thu 15 Jun 2023 at 21:32:41 (+), Totoro wrote: > After entering > > sudo apt update > > The following messages appeared on the console: > > Ign:1 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 12.0.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD > Binary-1 with firmware 20230610-10:23"] bookworm InRelease > Err:2

Re: puis-je faire confiance a ce disque ?

2023-06-16 Thread BERTRAND Joël
hamster a écrit : > j'ai un disque dur pour lequel badblocks s'est terminé sans erreurs, > l'auto-test de smart s'est aussi terminé sans erreurs, pourtant dans le > rapport de smart je vois 3 chiffres qui m'inquietent : > Raw_Read_Error_Rate 70428466 > Seek_Error_Rate 371778543 > 149  ---  Number