Re: Retaining Older Kernels After Image Update

2014-08-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 12:11:43PM -0400, Kenneth Jacker wrote: [ Wheezy; 3.2.0-4-amd64 ] I've noticed that when I upgrade a kernel image, the prior one appears to be removed. So, at any time there is only one kernel image in /boot. Updates are different to a new package install. On a new

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 06:42:38AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the

Re: Bug#736258: acpid won't stop, won't upgrade (systemd) - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=736258

2014-08-02 Thread Chris Bannister
Is there a reason debian-user is subscribed to this bug report? On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 10:42:38AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard j.deboynepollard-newsgro...@ntlworld.com writes: [snip] -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are

Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working

2014-08-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:32:08PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: So now the question is: What is the 'modern' way of automatically doing 'modprobe pppoe' at boot/ifup time? Evidently something has changed that has made that stop happening... Put it in /etc/modules. I hope that is still the

Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working

2014-08-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 12:13:43AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: On Friday, August 1, 2014 12:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:32:08PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: So now the question is: What is the 'modern' way of automatically doing 'modprobe pppoe' at boot

Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working

2014-08-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 02:04:45AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: On Friday, August 1, 2014 1:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Bannister wrote: [...] tl;dr: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tldr too long; didn't read? ... um ... what was? My own post 'above' is what the 'tl;dr' referred

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

2014-07-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:52:51PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 28 iul 14, 08:41:39, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 11:20:13AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: You are aware of course that: - it's also possible to scroll *back* (surprise, surprise) Can you

Re: Finding a replacement for my ISP's smtp server

2014-07-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 04:08:44PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 7/28/2014 3:51 PM, Brian wrote: You never really answered my questiom. If you place something in a public place, a mailserver, for example, why should it be a criminal offence to look at it. If you did not want it to be seen

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

2014-07-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 11:20:13AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 27 iul 14, 12:34:17, Zenaan Harkness wrote: I've thought for years, and noted in my fix unix notes that boot messages ought be written starting at the top of the screen, then when they get to the bottom, rather than

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 08:39:26PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 7/23/14, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose I'll get complaints about this being off-topic, but perhaps we can expose a disagreement on terminology without the clutter and heat of the discussion in which it

Re: missing LSB tags and overrides

2014-07-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 09:41:08AM +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: Any suggestions on how to fix this please? insserv: warning: script 'K01kerneld' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'K01apache' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'S15modutils'

Is there a list 'charter' somewhere? (was ... Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file)

2014-07-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 03:47:00PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:14:13 +1200 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 08:39:26PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 7/23/14, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose I'll get

Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

2014-07-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 03:27:50PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:01:02 Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Gotta say, as soon as there's a Xen Dom0 for either FreeBSD or Illumos, I'll seriously look at moving. This is

Re: Copy machine?

2014-07-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 06:25:40PM +0200, Chris wrote: Hi Martin, On 07/18/2014 07:43 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:45:13 schrieb Chris: Depends on how the initrd is built. That's interesting. I thought initrd was essentially for hard disk drivers only.

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 08:16:57AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: That does capture things in a nutshell. Some of us actually run Debian in production, server environments - and have enough issues keeping things up for our users. As someone pointed out a little earlier: No where, just go

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 07:26:43AM +0200, Erwan David wrote: I do not have the ressources to test : no time no machine which I can afford to break. And since today syste,md-shim is no more an option (aptitude wants to remove it) I do not want to test. I want to be surze it works. And

Re: mutt can't send mail (Interrupted system call)

2014-07-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 02:33:50PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Sun 20 Jul 2014 at 16:08:25 +0200, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:55:09PM +, Curt wrote: I understood that he is using Mutt's native smtp support and the default exim configuration, which only handles

Re: init spawning multiple cf-execd processes at once

2014-07-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:56:13AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:39:16 +0200 Jimmy Thrasibule jimmy.thrasib...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've added a new line to the /etc/inittab file to monitor the CFEngine daemon and restart it in case this one dies.

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 01:11:47PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: LOL, how do you do it Andrei? You've tried and failed to rebut me three times... Wow! and here's me thinking he clearly explained the issue(s) to you! I remember a rant by Billy Connelly where the gist goes like this: He picked up a

Re: a simple script for restoring downloaded debs

2014-07-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:23:15AM -0400, songbird wrote: songbird wrote: the other night i accidentally deleted the debs i normally keep in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory and while i do keep a backup of them in another directory it is along with all the previous versions

Re: How to get Skype sound working on Wheezy (7.5, 64bit)?

2014-07-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:01:17 +0100 Klaus klaus.doering...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/07/14 15:37, Steve Litt wrote: card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Have

tweak Aptitude to not suggest removals as first option (was ... Re: Pin package to any version, don't remove?)

2014-07-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 08:39:16AM -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: Note: I'd probably have the same problem with nvidia-driver, but my aptitude is not suggesting removals as first option anymore due to: // tweak Aptitude to not suggest

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:56:42PM +0200, Erwan David wrote: dspam being removed from debian, I am looking for a replacement, that is : an email content filter, working on server with per user rules and possibly compatible with dovecot-antispam for training. What about bogofilter:

Re: New 64bit Installation: Vim Keymappings

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 09:51:50AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:33:03PM +0300, David Baron wrote: On prior 32-bit installation, had insert/replace explicitly activated by insert key and function shown at bottom. Also had line number, % of file shown. Current

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 08:43:46AM +, Curt wrote: I've seen documentation suggesting you can create a bootable usb stick with a simple feline, but it appears this is now restricted permissions-wise in version systemd/204-10 to the root user (or a member of the disk group)

Re: New 64bit Installation: Vim Keymappings

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:42:59PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 09:51:50AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:33:03PM +0300, David Baron wrote: On prior 32-bit installation, had insert/replace explicitly activated by insert key and function

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 02:13:22PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. The sane-project.org website never has the current models, however, so I would like to hear any positive experience others have had before buying another

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 09:18:51PM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: I'm old school taught, too.. To bring it more or less on topic, I noticed A LOT of changes like that slowly worked their way into acceptance around the same time the word computer was becoming more commonly uttered.. Not all

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 07:52:38PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 7/11/2014 5:06 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: You are going to hate me for this: there is no . after Mr; it is a contraction. (Off-topic

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:31:49PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:01:27 +1200 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Hello Chris, r u sure th't stil aplys 2day? Doesn't matter; Why do men's shirts button one way, and ladies' blouses the other? Although

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: You are going to hate me for this: there is no . after Mr; it is a contraction. (Off-topic is that way ---). No, it's an abbreviation, not a contraction. As a contraction it

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 09:44:20AM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Tom H wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 12:21:57 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: A bizarre

Re: xboard: how to enter variations

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:42:09AM -0500, Charles Blair wrote: I type xboard -variations true and the board display pops up. In edit game mode, I make the moves 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 and it waits for Black's move. Then I use the button to go back one move. I hold the shift key while moving

Re: systemd surprises

2014-07-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 03:07:54PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 01:43:23AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Hi, When I logged out of fvwm, and hence X, tty3 (the tty where X was running) displayed this at the top of the screen: enabled, not active [unchanged] I

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 07:25:05AM +0100, Balint Szigeti wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 15:48 +0200, B wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:01:43 -0400 Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: What's wrong with that? I also have to use Windows, even when I'm working on Linux device

Re: systemd surprises

2014-07-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 01:53:01AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 03:07:54PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: I would try pressing Enter a few times (if a getty is on that terminal, that should cause it to re-display the login: prompt). Or, failing that, use the SAK (Either

Re: Problem with Debian 7.5 i386 lxde LIVE ISO and Brasero

2014-07-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 02:12:56AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 12/07/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I have downloaded the file debian-live-7.5.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso and tried to write it to a DVD (type DVD-R), using Brasero, and it does not work. With the

Re: Help on using Debian

2014-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 02:06:55AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 09/07/2014, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Your question needs to go to the list address. Replies only go to the list. [..] gmail defaults to the poster of the message, and can not be configured otherwise

systemd surprises

2014-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
Hi, When I logged out of fvwm, and hence X, tty3 (the tty where X was running) displayed this at the top of the screen: enabled, not active [unchanged] Is this normal or a bug? How do I regain the use of this tty as a text console? If the answer is Oh, easy, just reboot, you'll have to

Re: Sid - grubpc-bin isc-dhcp-client bugs

2014-07-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:07:44PM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: For some time these bugs have existed in SID: critical bugs of grub-pc-bin (2.00-22 → 2.02~beta2-10) Outstanding #741464 - grub-pc-bin: hangs after displaying boot menu grave bugs of isc-dhcp-client (4.2.4-7 → 4.3.0+dfsg-1)

Re: Help on using Debian

2014-07-09 Thread Chris Bannister
Your question needs to go to the list address. Replies only go to the list. There have been answers to your question. Please subscribe to the list. You can read previous responses at the list archives. On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 11:03:01AM +0100, Dreamon Dreamon wrote: Are you subscribed to

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:49:52PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 07.07.2014 21:29, schrieb Andrei POPESCU: To prove my point (on a laptop with LXDE and just a few services): $ grep sleep /etc/init.d/* | wc -l 27 $ ls /etc/init.d/* | wc -l 75 Yup, the boot speed improvements come

Re: Learning package building - tutorial issue

2014-07-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 09:58:14PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: On 07/06/2014 09:54 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: On 07/06/2014 09:21 PM, Valerio Pachera wrote: 2014-07-06 21:09 GMT+02:00 Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de: Unless you provide some more information, I can not find the source of the problem:

Re: sudo path

2014-07-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 09:42:31AM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: I still don't understand why sudo works on two systems (both upgraded from squeeze) but not on the third (bare metal wheezy installation), but there you go. I've now applied the fix to all three, so the problem's gone away :)

Re: sudo path

2014-07-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 11:43:05PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 09:42:31AM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: I still don't understand why sudo works on two systems (both upgraded from squeeze) but not on the third (bare metal wheezy installation), but there you go

Re: unable to upgrade kernel

2014-07-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 07:02:42PM +0200, François Patte wrote: Le 04/07/2014 16:12, Lisi Reisz a écrit : I had no trouble installing the backported kernel, but I specifically instructed aptitude to use wheezy-backports repository. -t wheezy-backports install OK thank this worked... I

Re: No volume change possible

2014-07-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 02:22:42PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 06/30/2014 02:44 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:30:46 -0400 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: Problems of this sort would be much lessoned if pavucontrol was a depend. RIc I wouldn't say 'depend' but much more

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:16:58AM -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: I've got a pretty old machine (Celeron 2.8 GHz, ATI rage XL). It's been running Debian fine for years, but I reinstalled recently. Installed stable (chose XFCE as desktop environment), everything worked fine (lightdm worked, xfce

Re: dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)

2014-06-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 03:08:54AM +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote: Hi people! I really don't know, how to solve this problem. Does any of you have an idea ?! root@babe3306:/home/tamer# apt-get install -f Preparing to unpack .../libsope1_2.2.5-1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libsope1 (2.2.5-1) ...

Re: Please help me OT

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 08:09:57AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/27/2014 01:56 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 01:15:53PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Makes you wonder how many people who install Debian and have

Re: Please help me OT

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 09:13:01PM +0400, Reco wrote: Correct. In fact [1] can mislead people into thinking that subscribing to the maillist to receive an answer is unnecessary: tl;dr. which sentence or paragraph gives you this impression? [1]

Re: overcoming apt's resistance to broken packages

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 04:29:51PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: I agree with Josh Triplett that autodetection looking only for 'ati' rather than for the individual modules which 'ati' can implicitly load is a bug that should be fixed. (The point of doing so - questioned in the last comment on

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 11:11:48PM -0600, Kitty Cat wrote: So, what I think I need to do is find a way to get the Debian install DVD to bypass the need to press a key until such time that a USB keyboard driver loads or something like that. I'd try a 'Live CD' first to see if all functions are

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please don't top post on this list.] On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 01:26:19AM -0600, Kitty Cat wrote: OK. I managed to get Debian installed. Here is what I did: I had previously installed the Debian installer stuff from the DVD into the Windows bootloader. However, since my keyboard didn't work

Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 09:14:09AM -0400, slitt wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700 David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian has a package first, before

Re: Please help me OT

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 05:31:37PM +0400, Reco wrote: On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 19:34:13 +1200 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 09:13:01PM +0400, Reco wrote: Correct. In fact [1] can mislead people into thinking that subscribing to the maillist

Re: OT: programming languages

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 06:37:09PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: First, this isn't the slightest bit OT. A week doesn't go by where I don't need to write either a simple script or a slightly bigger program to make Linux do just what I want. I disagree. It has NOTHING to do with debian support,

Re: OT: programming languages

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 02:02:54PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: What do people like instead of Perl, and why? Are you aware of the OT mailing list: Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic -- If you're not

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. If it is non interactive, then how do you master it? -- If you're not careful,

Re: Please help me OT

2014-06-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 04:06:45PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: It's much better if your subject line reflects your problem. Please help me doesn't make the topic searchable for anyone else that may have your same problem. Then you are the sole recipient of the help others are investing their

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 02:17:47PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 26.06.2014 12:26, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non

Re: Please help me OT

2014-06-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 07:01:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Thu 26 Jun 2014 at 22:41:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 04:06:45PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: It's much better if your subject line reflects your problem. Please help me doesn't make the topic

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 08:48:26AM +, Curt wrote: On 2014-06-25, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:52:46PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: A proactive admin should be aware of these things and schedule appropriate preventative maintenance. May

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:32:22AM +0200, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: What do yo mean by ...became ugly for an unknown reason...), how do you

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:52:46PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: A proactive admin should be aware of these things and schedule appropriate preventative maintenance. May I suggest Qualitative Maintenance as a better strategy. http://assetinsights.net/Glossary/G_Qualitative_Maintenance.html (as

Re: systemd man pages

2014-06-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:21:11PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-06-18 20:43 +0200, Chris Bannister wrote: Does anyone know where the manpages for systemd are. In the usual places, dpkg -L systemd | grep /usr/share/man. e.g. there is no vconsole.conf man(5) That's because

Re: systemd man pages

2014-06-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 09:34:30PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-06-19 20:56 +0200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:21:11PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-06-18 20:43 +0200, Chris Bannister wrote: Does anyone know where the manpages for systemd

systemd man pages

2014-06-18 Thread Chris Bannister
Hi, Does anyone know where the manpages for systemd are. e.g. there is no vconsole.conf man(5) root@tal:~# man 5 vconsole.conf No manual entry for vconsole.conf in section 5 root@tal:~# man vconsole.conf No manual entry for vconsole.conf root@tal:~# apt-cache search systemd | grep ' man '

Re: systemd - keyboard key repeat rate (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:33:37AM +0100, Brian wrote: On Wed 18 Jun 2014 at 14:31:37 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: One other thing, I sense that the key repeat is not as fast as it was before I installed systemd-sysv. It seems strange that an init system should mess with the keyboard

Re: systemd: tty6

2014-06-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:24:20AM +0100, Brian wrote: No getty is ever spawned on tty7 so it is always available for X. If there are login prompts on tty1 to tty5 X will be on tty7. It cannot be run on tty6 because systemd keeps this as an emergency tty. I'm running a screen session on tty6

Re: Confict [debian installer] vs [installer documentation] ?

2014-06-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:56:33PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Should this bug be reported against installer or the documentation? Having only dialup and thus unable to download Jessie, is it correct to report it as a possible bug in Jessie also? Use reportbug packagename where

Re: systemd - keyboard key repeat rate (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 07:57:58PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Tue 17 Jun 2014 at 06:25:01 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:43:18PM +0100, Brian wrote: On the other hand, not running X on the console you started it from with startx brings a raft of other problems

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:34:58AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 10:11:00 schrieb Chris Bannister: I am now using it. I don't like how it starts X in the first available TTY but I guess I'll get used to it or spend a few days reading the docs and see what

Re: Multimedia player for video filte type qs

2014-06-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 03:38:09PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: using File Manager, on a Debian 6 system, which shows the video files as having the extension .qs, , but, on a Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce system, using the file manager, it shows, in the instance of the last recorded thumb drive, the video

Re: Multimedia player for video filte type qs

2014-06-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:34:13PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: Next up, try VLC and/or mplayer on the file. Both of these players are quite good at detecting file formats and may give you something useful. I think mplayer is being 'tossed' out of the archive. mpv is a good, if not better,

Re: Screen size trouble with Xorg

2014-06-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 08:03:56AM -0500, Mike Bailey wrote: Hello all, Last week I bought myself a new monitor to replace my old 24 monitor. The new monitor is a Samsung S27C500, which is connected via hdmi. The monitor has two inputs: one hdmi, and one vga. I do not have a VGA input on my

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:43:18PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Tue 17 Jun 2014 at 00:40:14 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Ahh, OK. Must have been reverted. systemd-sysv - Installed: 204-8 Candidate: 204-8 Running Jessie. X running on TTY3 at present, a bit of a pain when switching TTY's

Re: Off-topic: boot order

2014-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 05:44:59AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: colorful language. Since the vocabulary used for the OP's address is less vulgarly, less obscenely than lyrics of common English radio and TV songs in the daytime, But who posts lyrics here? I don't see the connection. I guess we

Re: Resizing LVM issue

2014-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 12:00:12AM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote: (Btw, the app apt-on-CD recently started to ask for more space in /tmp. After resizing, that app seems to be happy :-) tal% apt-cache search apt-on-CD tal% Third party? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you

apt-get update: unnecessary use of disk space

2014-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister
Hi, Does this seem necessary? root@tal:~# apt-get clean root@tal:~# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda536G 34G 266M 100% / [...] root@tal:~# apt-get update Hit http://ftp.debian.org jessie InRelease Hit http://security.debian.org jessie/updates InRelease

Re: apt-get update: unnecessary use of disk space

2014-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:59:20AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Hi, Does this seem necessary? root@tal:~# apt-get clean root@tal:~# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda536G 34G 266M 100% / [...] root@tal:~# apt-get update Hit http

Re: apt-get update: unnecessary use of disk space

2014-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 08:22:55PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2,4K Feb 16 11:33 apt-file drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14K Jun 15 19:21 archives -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39M Jun 15 19:25 pkgcache.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39M Jun 15 19:25 srcpkgcache.bin Ahh!, that

systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 03:33:43PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: For the record I am using systemd without any issues, but then I am doing so on desktop systems. I just dislike the increasingly monolithic architecture of systemd. No, I don't bring this up to start another flame war as I am no

Re: apt-get update: unnecessary use of disk space

2014-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 11:04:14PM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: If you are interested in retrieving some disk space on this partition, I would suggest to reduce the percentage of diskspace which may only be allocated by privileged processes. It is normally 5% of the diskspace of a

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:18:46PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:21:40PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: However, going through the tutorial is a must, especially if one is transitioning from word processors, otherwise you'll be very frustrated that pressing Enter

Debian memtest package faulty? (was ... Re: hardware errors)

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:45:53AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 01:35 +0200, B wrote: On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200 Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: I assume the RAM needs replacing - is it possible to figure out which DIMM(s)? Install

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:56:15AM +0400, Reco wrote: On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 17:48:37 +1200 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used without systemd

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 08:22:51AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used without systemd, but it's merged

Re: Kernel 3.14.x bug? rm, mv root-owned files

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 04:45:37PM +0200, Filip wrote: Removing a directory entries no relation whatsoever to the permissions of the file. Parse error! Does not compute! :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the

Re: chromium doesn't launch

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 11:44:05PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2014-06-06 14:49 +0200, Joel Rees wrote: Anybody have any ideas why? grep of Xorg.0.log or whatever that was produced this error message, I have no idea

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:10:02PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 07 June 2014 21:41:17 Slavko wrote: apt-get is quicker than aptitude and has (by the release note) The release notes have not been consistent about which they recommend for a particular upgrade. Both have been

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 02:56:53PM +0400, Reco wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Quote from the first link: The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible with non-systemd init systems for a long time. This change is mostly

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just a guess NO it isn't merged!!! Please stop spreading FUD! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you

Re: package recommendation for daily journal

2014-06-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 11:16:51PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: On Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:30:01 PM UTC+5:30, lina wrote: Hi, I am looking for a package, which can act as a smart diary or journal to help me remember the records of small things, such as obtain a licensed software, not

Re: Crypt data on the fly

2014-06-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 02:13:23PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: differentiates it from random noise. For some people, being able to prove that data was encrypted is enough of a problem (I live in a country where my government can force me to reveal my keys - refusing or forgetting results in a

Re: fastest linux distro

2014-06-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 09:10:53AM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2014 17:11:16 +1200 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: ... no HDMI cable, doesn't play .webm videos. You have to use youtube-dl not 'cclive -s best' to download the video from youtube yielding

Re: Assange and NSA

2014-05-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 09:31:32AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: Off topic on the Debian user list? I think not. I think so. That question is more appropriate for the debian-project list because it concerns the umm, cough, Debian project. It doesn't fit under the category of support. -- If you're

Re: What is the difference between linux-image-amd64 and linux-image-3.2.0.4-amd64?

2014-05-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 07:55:50AM -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote: Quite unlikely, but linux-image-3.2.0.5-amd64 could happen. OMG, 3.2.0.5 is considered an upgrade over 3.2.0.4? 5 is bigger than 4, so yes a higher version means it has been upgraded I was under the impression that 3.3 was

Re: Assange and NSA

2014-05-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 11:53:00AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20140531_2339+1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 09:31:32AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: Off topic on the Debian user list? I think not. I think so. That question is more appropriate for the debian-project

Re: fastest linux distro

2014-05-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:27:12PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Specs would be nice, but I think the processor and/or video card is doing all the heavy lifting in such a case. Having dedicated video RAM is usually a plus, but I had something like this running on a PIII 500 MHz with 768 MB

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