Re: Broken Zope, Python, xbase-clients, etc

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
pythonman.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/python2.2.1.gz That won't be preserved across package upgrades. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Open-source opportunuity?

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
, that means they're looking for third-party companies to whom they can contract out the work, not offering jobs themselves. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: XFree86 + Signal 11 = Bad Juju

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
by buggy code. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:00:28PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am So, 2003-09-07 um 23.44 schrieb Colin Watson: On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:46:02PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am So, 2003-09-07 um 21.11 schrieb Mario Vukelic: You probably don't even get security fixes fo NS 4

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 12:29:34PM -0700, Jean-Michel besnard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:00:28PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am So, 2003-09-07 um 23.44 schrieb Colin Watson: On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:46:02PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am So, 2003

Re: 2.4.20 and reiserfs

2003-09-08 Thread Colin Watson
, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian Reference Manual -- Section 10: Debian Gateway

2003-09-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 12:13:37AM +0200, Osamu Aoki wrote: Read HOWTO by installing doc-linux-text (which used to be doc-linux). Um. Not since January 1998, if I read the changelog correctly :) (Before that it was just 'doc', but that was in 1995 ...) Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Colin Watson
their current development tree. That's one of the reasons why it took Mozilla so long to get going. I don't believe that the source for Netscape 4 itself was ever released. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Colin Watson
to make your system think that theirs is the router. It's a tough world out there. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: use of dbootstrap and debootstrap

2003-09-07 Thread Colin Watson
, inside an installed system and use 'chroot' to get at it, which is incredibly useful if you're doing things like autobuilding packages or sidegrading from a different distribution to Debian. There's no separate package for dbootstrap because it's part of boot-floppies. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: Which release

2003-09-06 Thread Colin Watson
' is always close to being a release candidate.' That's the theory. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Which release

2003-09-06 Thread Colin Watson
into experimental repositories. Case in point: Gnome. The Debian GNOME maintainers do this because GNOME is a big system and it's difficult to get it all release-ready otherwise. It's a good idea, but it's not applied universally. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Which release

2003-09-06 Thread Colin Watson
emergency procedures. The procedures are in place: there's testing-proposed-updates, which can be used to get critical security fixes autobuilt and into testing. The manpower to make use of this is what's lacking. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Problems with SSH and X11

2003-09-06 Thread Colin Watson
' is probably what you want. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Linux permissions and which(1)

2003-09-05 Thread Colin Watson
have no idea why it exists. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] ssh remote command execution without public keys.

2003-09-05 Thread Colin Watson
to a special-purpose user with a restricted shell, maybe; but eww. If I were you I'd definitely ask the administrator of (A) to enable public key authentication. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: spamassassin: whitelist_from_rcvd ?!?!

2003-09-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: Also, if one disagrees with the contents of that file, perhaps it would be good and nice if remedies were offered that are guaranteed to persist across product updates . . . dpkg-divert -- Colin Watson

Re: Linux permissions and which(1)

2003-09-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 10:32:48AM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:09:05:09:53:35+0100] scribed: On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 10:03:52PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 09:45:53PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: I was looking at the source

Re: dangling symlink in man-db

2003-09-05 Thread Colin Watson
is a dangling symlink Er, make those files not be dangling symlinks any more? File a bug against whatever package provides those symlinks (not man-db!) if necessary ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: spamassassin: whitelist_from_rcvd ?!?!

2003-09-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 11:56:49AM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:09:05:16:55:57+0100] scribed: On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: Also, if one disagrees with the contents of that file, perhaps it would be good and nice

Re: spamassassin: whitelist_from_rcvd ?!?!

2003-09-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 01:30:48PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: Doh ; # sudo dpkg -S /usr/sbin/dpkg-divert dpkg: /usr/sbin/dpkg-divert Yep :) Incidentally, why sudo? dpkg doesn't need any special privileges just to search its database. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: spamassassin: whitelist_from_rcvd ?!?!

2003-09-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:42:39PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:09:05:21:08:07+0100] scribed: Incidentally, why sudo? dpkg doesn't need any special privileges just to search its database. # id uid=1000(mds) gid=1000(mds) groups=1000(mds),6

Re: Gnome configuration error

2003-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
argument to 'exec' dpkg: error processing gconf2 (--configure) subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status (1) Please see the bug tracking system; this has been reported several times and is fixed in 2.2.1-3. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: mixing stable and testing

2003-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
it). Instead, install the devscripts and fakeroot packages and run 'debuild'. You probably want the -uc and -us flags too so that it doesn't prompt you for a GPG signature. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: route function of actiontec 1524, please help

2003-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
, but I want to make absolutely sure you see this. You've been doing this a fair bit recently.) Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Why ROOT all in uppercase

2003-09-03 Thread Colin Watson
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Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-03 Thread Colin Watson
to those who are already interested and capable. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?

2003-09-02 Thread Colin Watson
EOF 2.05b.0(1)-release $ cat 'EOF' $BASH_VERSION EOF $BASH_VERSION $ cat EOF $BASH_VERSION EOF $BASH_VERSION Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:19:18PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 13:26, Colin Watson wrote: As it happens, setting the tabstop option to anything other than 8 does irritate me when editing files containing tabs. I like to keep source code within 80 columns, and mismatched

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 11:43:19AM +0200, Anders Arnholm wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 09:37:27AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: Nowadays, on average I tend to use expandtab for new code, but converting tabs to spaces is still an operation that needs to be handled carefully with respect

Re: Lost Access to Logon Profiles after upgrade to samba 3 Beta 2

2003-09-02 Thread Colin Watson
lost access to the logon profiles directories at logon time. Judging from the timestamp quoted above, your system thinks it's a year in the past. Perhaps this has something to do with it? (Otherwise, I don't know Samba at all ...) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 02:51:20AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: To get the behavior you describe you have to set tabstop to 4 so that it will go to the next multiple of 4. No, you don't have to. Try setting softtabstop - much better. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: broken NIS clients

2003-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
through local accounts though. Known bug. Please check the libc6 bug list. You probably want to downgrade libc6 for now. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:27:10AM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 06:51, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 02:51:20AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: To get the behavior you describe you have to set tabstop to 4 so that it will go to the next multiple of 4

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:53:55PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 12:15, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:27:10AM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: what could be better than works exactly as desired? tabstop *doesn't* work exactly as desired for me. (Shall we

Re: Unfortunate Dummy.

2003-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
enough memory, no swap file simply means that you'll occasionally run out of memory rather than swapping out bits of what's currently in memory to disk when memory gets low. The latter is *usually* what you want, but if it's happening too much then you need to get more memory. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: Quoting

2003-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
called _unstable_ ! You should report it somewhere, otherwise it's pot luck whether it ever gets fixed. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem compiling KDE

2003-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
. Sorry. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
in Perl that's often used for complex cases. (It's also a common optimization to factor out expensive transformations in the sort comparator.) Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: kmail, testing

2003-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 06:47:51PM -0400, David Corbin wrote: 2) when I do apt-get source kmail, it install kdenetwork, instead of kmail. That's correct. kmail is a binary package generated by the kdenetwork source package. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL

Re: Console login banner appears twice

2003-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
/sshd_config. That's handled in /etc/pam.d/ssh instead. If both are set then you'll get this duplication. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: tab completion in bash

2003-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
- .jpg, .gif etc. Where can i tweak this bash behavior so that I could tell it to recognize .m2v files as to be opened with mplayer, for example? See /etc/bash_completion for how it works. If you're adding to it, best to do so in your own .bashrc. -- Colin Watson

Re: Quoting

2003-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
as well. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gnome-settings-daemon in testing

2003-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 09:37:36AM -0400, Wm. Josiah Erikson wrote: Is there a plan to un-break gnome2 in testing? It'll happen before release, but at the moment we're waiting for unstable's glibc to be fixed. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Quoting

2003-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:03:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 01:02:57PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: My mail delivery statistics say that I've read an average of just under 800 mails per day over the last week, and that's while getting a good deal of work done as well

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
code has to be a complete nightmare and you have to have a deadline to add some new feature or other to it. It does happen, but it is (and should be) rare. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 01:34:14AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 08:06:22PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: Starting up KDE applications outside KDE (often?) requires starting up a number of random daemons which are normally running if you use KDE for everything. Better

Re: Getting XFree 4.3?

2003-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
is available in the distribution you're looking for. For instance, it'll usually have at least a Debian revision number attached to it. Try http://packages.debian.org/x-window-system. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: deb from source

2003-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
patch -p0 gtk+2.0_2.2.1-6.diff cd gtk+2.0_2.2.1.orig That's a ... convoluted (and wrong) way to extract a source package. Remove that gtk+2.0_2.2.1.orig directory, and try this instead: dpkg-source -x gtk+2.0_2.2.1-6.dsc -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: some reality about iptables, please

2003-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
and dry, and you don't play with them. That's not helpful. I think you should mail the maintainer (via a bug report) and say so, then. He may well not read this list. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: deb from source

2003-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:19:42AM +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: Colin Watson wrote: That's a ... convoluted (and wrong) way to extract a source package. Remove that gtk+2.0_2.2.1.orig directory, and try this instead: dpkg-source -x gtk+2.0_2.2.1-6.dsc I thought there was an easier way! So

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 02:26:23AM +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 19:18, Colin Watson wrote: Amen, brother. I spend a fair bit of my time in Debian trying to stop people from rewriting things and getting them to fix existing code instead. It's an uphill

Re: deb from source

2003-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
-2.2.1 ~/SRC/GTK2/gtk+2.0-2.2.1: dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot [...] dpkg-source -b gtk+2.0-2.2.1 dpkg-source: building gtk+2.0 using existing gtk+2.0_2.2.1.orig.tar.gz dpkg-source: failure: md5sum gave bogus output `' What versions of dpkg and dpkg-dev do you have installed? -- Colin

Re: deb from source

2003-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 09:39:59PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 02:39:13PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 11:26:13PM +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: tar -xzvf gtk+2.0_2.2.1.orig.tar.gz gunzipgtk+2.0_2.2.1-6.diff.gz patch -p0 gtk+2.0_2.2.1-6

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
enlight me about it? psyco is not yet portable to anything other than i386. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
and hope it goes away and I've taken several classes in C and have tried to work with it several times over the years. Nor does it help that the best-selling C book ever is, ahem, less-than-superbly-written. Which one's that, then? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL

Re: xferring files from window

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 05:44:04PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Colin Watson wrote: How are you trying to transfer these files? Filenames with spaces work, they just require more quoting or backslashes: cp /mnt/win/file\ with\ spaces /home/user/ That's just

Re: freqtweak bug?

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:01:31PM +0100, Tim Beauregard wrote: Colin Watson wrote: | On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 02:07:36PM +0100, Tim Beauregard wrote: |Is this a bug? | |[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ freqtweak |freqtweak: relocation error: freqtweak: symbol _ZTV10wxListBase, version |WXGTK_2.4

Re: some reality about iptables, please

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 05:44:12PM +0100, Chris Wilcox wrote: First post folks so I'm unsure if we top post or not round here but everyone else seems to so I'll join in! :) We don't. Please post in conventional reading order, i.e. at the bottom! Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: Debian and KDE

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
handled in a somewhat different way. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: some reality about iptables, please

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
worked as a non-root user, the security problem would be there, not in the calling script. In general I don't believe that there's ever any point making non-set-id scripts unreadable or unexecutable, except when they contain sensitive data. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
showed two classes, foo and bar. The I discovered that 'fubarred' means 'fsked beyond repair'. That is sufficient explanation. Those bits of slang are far from specific to C++. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
that automatically does it for you before you ever even get to the 'real' code is really fascinating. Hey, Perl has autosplit mode; see perlrun(1) ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
outside of kde? Well, no. Why should it matter? Starting up KDE applications outside KDE (often?) requires starting up a number of random daemons which are normally running if you use KDE for everything. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [nospam.list@unclassified.de: Re: COBOL compiler]

2003-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
that it was the mark of a fine teacher to be able to cope with a student whose abilities exceeded their own. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
that, and write to the C standard and POSIX instead. Once in a while you need a very small compatibility layer, but this is more rare in well-written programs than you seem to think. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Bug#127502: Anyone packaging this yet?

2003-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
will give it a go. You didn't really look hard, it's in main. Low on coffee today, Paul? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show devfsd ^^ davfs is a WebDAV filesystem driver. devfs is a /dev filesystem. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: xferring files from window

2003-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
way out of this? How are you trying to transfer these files? Filenames with spaces work, they just require more quoting in the shell than you may perhaps be using. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: freqtweak bug?

2003-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
them or us! A piece of advice, then: always give the version number of the affected package and the distribution of Debian you're running when reporting problems like this. They're very tedious to investigate otherwise. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Debian security prb

2003-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
'-nolisten tcp' from whatever is starting your X server (for instance, in the case of gdm this is configurable in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf), does that make any difference? If not, an strace will be required. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: ssh tunneling

2003-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
pedantry.] Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: automatic overwrite with cp

2003-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
/ The command works but it requires that I manually respond 'yes' for each overwrite. Use the -f option. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ssh tunneling

2003-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:38:40AM -0500, Jesse Meyer wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:01:05AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..no rule witout exeption: these 2 minutes _are_ useful in tarpits, to help slow vira propagation: That's a new plural

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
gradually as we move towards the next release. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is Gnome working in teesting?

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 02:01:47PM -0400, stan wrote: On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 05:27:26PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: If it's filed in the bug tracking system, at the moment you just have to look at the bug every so often, although there's some work outstanding on letting you subscribe

Re: apt-listbugs output question... was Re: Is Gnome working in teesting?

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
/Developer#tags. Is resolved one which is fixed? Or is it different than closed ? Those are all synonyms (apart from a slight overloading of fixed in the Debian bug system to refer to a bug fixed in a non-maintainer upload). Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Is Gnome working in teesting?

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 11:15:56PM -0400, stan wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 12:47:49AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 02:01:47PM -0400, stan wrote: Is sound still also broken in testing? [Please don't send me private copies of list mail. I read the list.] Sorry

Re: [SLUG] Perl configured, but Apt tells me it's not.

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
for your own code. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ssh /home/user/.ssh/config problem

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
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Re: nis client problem (still)

2003-08-24 Thread Colin Watson
the list ? :) They're painfully aware of the problem. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Perl configured, but Apt tells me it's not.

2003-08-24 Thread Colin Watson
not built Perl before. That's bad: don't attempt to install Debian packages with a self-compiled Perl in your $PATH. The library paths won't be right. Can't you forcibly install the normal Debian perl packages? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: exim run-time option for seeing compile-time options

2003-08-24 Thread Colin Watson
' if necessary; then 'apt-get source exim'. debian/rules in the resulting source tree is the master build script. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: dpkg and locales

2003-08-24 Thread Colin Watson
haven't got the en_US.ISO-8859-15 locale properly installed. Try 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'? (Actually, is ISO-8859-15 even supported for en_US? I wouldn't have thought there'd be much demand for the Euro character over there.) Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL

Re: Is Gnome working in teesting?

2003-08-24 Thread Colin Watson
this several times before?) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Permissions on a vfat partition

2003-08-24 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 09:33:28AM -0600, Brian Gonzales wrote: Oh, and man pages are practically useless. Rubbish. Maybe some of them could be improved, but inflammatory statements won't get you anywhere. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Is Gnome working in teesting?

2003-08-24 Thread Colin Watson
to do for other reasons). Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gnomeConf.sh

2003-08-23 Thread Colin Watson
install Running #apt-cache search gnome-libs only finds gnome-libs-data which alreddy is installed. Anyone that knows what package include gnomeConf.sh? Use the search engine at the bottom of http://packages.debian.org/ to answer questions like this. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: gtkeyboard

2003-08-23 Thread Colin Watson
. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Best way to upgrade a single app (apt-get update, not upgraded)

2003-08-23 Thread Colin Watson
packages. In that case, 'apt-get dist-upgrade' or 'apt-get install spamassassin spamc'. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PHP4 for Apache2: when ?

2003-08-23 Thread Colin Watson
, php 4.1.2 (from debian 3.0 stable) is - how old? - at least a year now. Welcome to stable: it's stable. Use unstable if you care. (Sure, the odd package is out of date, but that's just individual maintainers not getting round to it.) Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: Debian policy, major change ?

2003-08-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:49:02PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:00:37PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: They do (IRC, anyway), but it's just not as effective. Face-to-face communication and the ability to look over at somebody's screen in real time and say oh, *that's

Re: icewm menu questions

2003-08-22 Thread Colin Watson
a central format to whatever it needs for its own menu system. Each package providing a menu entry just writes one in this central format. You can add your own entries this way, too, by editing files in $HOME/.menu. Have a look in /usr/share/doc/menu for the documentation. -- Colin Watson

Re: file timestamp problem since libc6-update

2003-08-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 06:00:54PM +0200, Hans-Gert Schloegl wrote: i'm experiencing some file timestamp problems since the last update of libc6 from 2.3.1-* to 2.3.2-3 when i'm using cfs filesystems or getting files with scp... Yeah, that's a known bug in libc6 (#205110). Cheers, -- Colin

Re: make-kpkg kernel_image error

2003-08-22 Thread Colin Watson
details: what errors would be a nice start. :) (An exact transcript is best; don't quote just the last few lines, which are often just a summary of previous errors, but give some context.) Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: backing out from apt-get postinst failures

2003-08-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:00:37AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: Colin Watson wrote: Dan Jacobson wrote: $ apt-get install some_package gets stuck in some bug in /var/lib/dpkg/info/some_package.postinst what is the proper way to back out until a newer version is available? Usually, edit

Re: Debian policy, major change ?

2003-08-21 Thread Colin Watson
issues. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 'experimental' distro?

2003-08-21 Thread Colin Watson
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Re: explanation of the noise (was Re: Norton AntiVirus detected and quarantined a virus in a message you sent.)

2003-08-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 07:23:08PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 00:12:20 +0100 Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newsflash: they are. They're just not perfect, unfortunately. I am aware of that. I just wonder why, for example, we're getting asian spam here when my

Re: Summary: IBM DB2 installation on Woody

2003-08-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:31:49AM +0200, Holger Marzen wrote: install rpm - apt-get install rpm - mkdir /var/lib/rpm - rpm --initdb Oof! Isn't it possible to use alien rather than trying to hack rpm to install RPM packages on Debian (which is usually dangerous)? -- Colin Watson

Re: X11 with different keyboards

2003-08-21 Thread Colin Watson
', 'setxkbmap us', etc. There are switches available if you need something more complicated. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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