Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 07:04:23PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 07:10:04AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: Yes, the system does thrash, not a complete lockup. But, if you try to move the cursor and few times with no results it certainly seems like

Re: (hopefully perl) API to /etc/network/interfaces?

2008-04-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 07:36:56PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: I know that reading /etc/network/interfaces has been done over and over... has an API been created for editing/writing it? If it's available in perl, or over the commandline, that would be even better :-) Its just a plain

forgetting to snip

2008-04-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Just a note: Posts recently are becoming many pages long with perhaps a one-liner comment somewhere. People are forgetting to snip. Also, some people are forgetting to word-wrap. Not trolling, not trying to moderate the list, just observing. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Oops in Etch 40r3

2008-04-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 02:23:44PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently installed debain Etch 40r3 on an older Intel desktop which was previously reliably running a 2,4 Kernel SuSE system. The installation went pretty smoothly, and the system is being manly used as a firewall

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:23:05PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: i find that opera does ok if i start with a clean slate each time, i.e., no tabs from former session. I don't do sessions at all anyway (whatever they are), i.e. I always have a clean slate. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 07:33:11PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: If its a pure engineering problem, I'll use Fortran77. May I suggest you shift to Fortran 90 from Fortran 77? Though Fortran 77 codes are compatible with Fortran 90, I find that F90 has much

Re: regex question

2008-04-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 09:37:02AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: this works perl -e 'while(){chomp ; next if ( /^\s*;/); print [$_]\n if length $_ 0}' sip.conf or this perl -nle 'next if ( /^\s*;/); print if length $_ 0' sip.conf why doesn't the next force a read of a new line and thus

Re: how to fix my broken system..

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:29:37PM +0530, Jaisen N.D. wrote: Hai I have a problem here. I use Etch. I have installed a postgresql package from debian backports, with the following command. #apt-get -t etch-backports

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:55:55PM -0700, Bob McGowan wrote: Damon L. Chesser wrote: I keep coming up against a wall Solid scripting experience required in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one scripting language to learn? Several other responses suggest sh,

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:21:42PM +0200, Jean-Louis Crouzet wrote: Thanks for this thread I thought I was alone with my Iceweasel issues... Basically I'm running Lenny with optimized kernel but still low memory configuration (512MB) on a Dell Pentium III. 512MB considered low-memory.

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 07:10:04AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: Is there any way, instead of restricting a resource, to have a command executed when a setpoint for a given resource is reached? Say, when FF uses 200M of virtual memory, or over 30% of CPU, a job runs which pops up a warning

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking about an international commodities market and thus don't have the aboslute authority to make

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 03:23:57AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: I strongly agree, and this knowledge is portable. All of the *nix tools, including shell, perl, and python, rely on regex understanding. One can get along just fine in python without using regex. I'm living proof. Sure, the regex

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite delivery truck. It's so cool. Geared so low in first, you could pull stumps with it... Gee, ya think

Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:12:03PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: == January 22, 2008 == * Writing Testbenches Using SystemVerilog, Janick Bergeron === Interesting Reading === * Thomas L. Friedman The World Is Flat: A Brief History of the Twenty-first Century, === Course

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: My first Linux install was on a 386-33. I still have the steel full-sized AT case around here somewhere... The hardest thing was figuring out the monitor's frequencies for Xwindows, since at that time they were not autodetected

Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:02:33AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:57:27 -0400 Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Latex. For simple things, it really is simple. For complex things its a bit more complex. Yes I love LaTex. I use it pretty much

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 04:22:06PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: I was seriously surprised with the power my old 95 Kia Sportage had. 4 banger, but got 147HP on the State of Oregon DEQ dynos at Hillsboro. It once pulled a Ford Explorer out of a drainage ditch, and with the help of another

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:45:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (95%). i've I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit system. Easy on my P-II, which is 32-bit (with

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:25:53PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Thu, April 10, 2008 12:45 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit system. I can. FF2.x was just painful on my laptop. It only has 256Mb and what i used to be able to do

Re: system not using hosts file

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 05:02:14PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: I don't understand why 'host fred' doesn't return 127.0.0.1 == host -v fred Trying fred.realsubdomain.realdomainname.com Trying fred.realdomainname.com Trying fred Host fred not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Received 97 bytes from

Re: Upgrading libc6 from etch to testing.Too Risky?

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:20:09PM -0700, alexandre suzuki wrote: I want to upgrade my libc6,from etch to testing,the output of apt-get below: libc is the heart of any unix. Since debian gives you binary packages, they are linked against a specific version of libc6. If you want such things

Re: face headers on mail to the list

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:32:13AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 21:41:37 -0400, Douglas A Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: How does this mesh with, for example, debian's thought-paradigms for deciding if something is free. e.g. the desert-island paradigm where you

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:21:42AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Or wonder if you will be stuck at a 2.6.22 kernel because you have a nvidia MX400 because m-a only works with the nvidia-glx from unstable if you try installing the 2.6.24 kernel which has migrated down to Lenny. So you find

Re: face headers on mail to the list

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:12:37AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Doug, you should have, choosing the headers of your choice. # .muttrc # What headers are displayed ignore * unignore From Date Subject To Cc User-agent X-Mailer # And for consistancy. unhdr_order * hdr_order X-Mailer

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:34:39AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: No no, sorry Doug, but rubber bands are reserved for securing daughter *boards* not daughters. I only use du(ct|ck) tape for securing the children. /me runs from the SPCA^h^h^h^hCPS... If the wiggle fits. (I think its

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:58:14AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If before we were kettle and pot, now that duct tape is an issue, are we Red and Green (do other places get the Red Green show?). Augh! Red Green on d-u?!? There's got to be a law against

Re: Using colours in mutt (long lines, line noise :-).

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 03:14:05AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Still doesn't help on my white-on-black VT520. A bit of white-space (well, actually black-space) does help. # -- # my colors (xterm -fg

Re: face headers on mail to the list

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 03:48:29PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:41:56 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Ron, On 04/07/08 05:44, Brad Rogers wrote: That's X-Face. Face can be colour. I guess we'd better ask OP for clarification! Doug. over to

Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 12:52:06PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:44:38PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Neat project. I am not sure why being able to install 3.0r3 rather than 3.0r6 is necesarily very useful, but it is neat to have the choice. To have

unknown [Was Re: TR: How to verify package integrity after they have been downloaded?]

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:20:17AM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rich Healey wrote on 2008-04-08 08:51: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [Redirecting to debian-user, because this has nothing to do with debian-security] [snip] The mail I

whitelist protocol

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 02:43:56PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote on 2008-04-07 14:31: I understand the issue about not wanting to limit posters to the list of subscribers. However, perhaps there should be a whitelist or somthing to which non-subscribers can

Re: missing codecs.conf

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:47:51PM +0100, Bob Cox wrote: On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:07:57 -0400, Haines Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It turned out I have no codecs.conf file in either /etc/mplayer/ or in ~/.mplayer/ . Shouldn't mplayer have created the file? I was unable to locate

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: slot wore out (don't ask me how, because I don't know). At the end, I had to keep a rubberband pulling that daughter board at just the right angle, or the thing would lock up and not boot. Worked like that for years. Aren't you the

Re: using UUID's for a raid1 in /etc/fstab instead of /dev/md0

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:08:11PM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: Someone recently talked about using ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid So that must be the UUID for the individual /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1. What is the UUID for the raid1 itself? Doesn't matter. The raid subsystem will search all disks

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 07:45:59PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I remember upgrading my C-64's 300 baud modem to a 1200baud one. That was so cool. No more typing faster than the modem... I used to chat with my friends using terminal programs we'd written ourselves complete with xmodem

Re: searching pdf files from a specific page onwards

2008-04-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 10:54:19PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Sorry, I'm at my VT520 now so can't try it, but I think in the menu's there's a search dialog with check boxes as opposed to just the search bar in thumbnails. If so, you can add

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:26:41PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/06/08 20:48, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I remember my 386. It was an IBM PS/2 model 70

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:46:15PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: Since we're off topic and talking about low end machine. I don't know if any of you guys have heard of this new linux distro on the block called slitaz. http://www.slitaz.org/en/ Very small distro...fits in a 24.8 mb

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 07:17:49PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:48:18PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: We could

Re: Using colours in mutt (was Re: Disk Drive Order Changes - Again)

2008-04-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 07:20:53PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:50:24PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:37:14PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 01:54:24PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Still

Re: business card install - kernel

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 04:31:28AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I'm using the business card CD install, I get to a page that says, Install the base system and lists about 30 different kernels. I can't find any web page or documentation that explains the difference between each one. I

Re: Using colours in mutt (was Re: Disk Drive Order Changes - Again)

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 02:44:44AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 03:40:48PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Fair enough. just a thought. BTW, it's darn hard to find your responses with no whitespace around them... Someting like: color quoted blue white

Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Of course, Quoting the spam when you complain about spam just confuses the spam filter so that it will think such mail is legitimate. I understand the issue about not wanting to limit posters to the list of subscribers. However, perhaps there should be a whitelist or somthing to which

face headers on mail to the list

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Something I've notice latey, is that people sending to the list have a header referred to as Face. Since I use mutt on my VT520, all I see is a whole screen of ascii chars. Just as there's a netiquette rule about the number of lines in a .sig, what is netiquette re sending to a list where many

Re: How do I get aptitude to unhold???

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 07:43:05PM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: Yeah, it should be simple, but it isn't doing it! I have a whole bunch of packages held from back when I had a buggy apt-get and aptitude and now I want to upgrade and I can't get them unheld. Where is that list at? Is

Re: Debian Won't Install

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:47:12AM -0700, Bryan wrote: I downloaded the latest Debin relese(4.0) from Bittorent and burned it to DVD but for some reason it will not boot from the CD. I don't think it is the CD becuase it boots on two other machines I have. The weird thing is this same

Re: your mail

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:40:48PM +0530, sini kumar wrote: Hi all I'm from U.A.E i would like to use GNU LINUX in my laptop Compaq presario F700 ,processer is Mobile AMD Sempronm(tm)Processor 3600+ 2.00Ghz,,1Gb ram , system type is 32bit operating system. so how can i install and where i

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 08:04:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Totally ACK! This is the kind of situation that inflames my crotchetiness gland and impels me to pull out my cane and ear horn. Yeah, when you were a student, you did the same thing with a carrier pidgeon, carrying a role of

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Great OT thread. Yes, no flaming. Last time it was like this, Etch was almost ready... I'm trying to remember the last real Etch problem (as opposed to Lenny or Sid questions) other than those where the answer was to remove network-manager :) Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: server security :: user accounts, ssh, passphrases, etc.

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 10:46:25AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: In practice, any decent public key system will use large enough primes that this is a Got a supercomputer or a botnet and a good bit of time? case which makes brute-forcing an md5 password file look easy, but I like to be

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:59:45PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Not really, since I didn't become a teenager until the mid-70s. I thought you were an old fart. You're my age. I was born in 66. Oh, wait a minute... Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:16:02AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: is there any way to do this with mail, maybe if it was a header I could then wget the report as spam link. Don't really want to open a browser to do this [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

[VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: so now we can twiddle our thumbs, go on random OT rants and rest assured that lenny will be out any time. When's the next utnubu due out? That always

Re: Using colours in mutt (was Re: Disk Drive Order Changes - Again)

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:37:14PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 01:54:24PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Still doesn't help on my white-on-black VT520. A bit of white-space (well, actually black-space) does help. you can use mono inplace of color

Re: searching pdf files from a specific page onwards

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:28:20PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: I currently use kpdf for viewing pdf files. I have tried other pdf viewers (acroread, xpdf etc.,) some time back and settled on to kpdf as it sucked less. Is there any pdf viewer out there which has the following feature?

Re: Distributions

2008-04-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:50:02AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote: While we're on the topic, can anyone sum it up, what do people generally think is bad with Debian? Doesn't run well on old (e.g. 10 years old) hardware. Installer needs too much memory, an install takes too much disk space. Apt

Re: Question about sendmail

2008-04-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 02:53:13AM -0700, Pete Kay wrote: I am looking for a solution to perform specific tasks based on email received. So, when emails of specific Send-to address arrives to my mail server, I would like to kick off certain scripts. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

fixing .txt files sent from a MS$ user

2008-04-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Hello all, My niece sends some of her schoolwork to my wife (e.g. essays) for her to read. First she sent .doc files which I can't access properly (no, I do no run OO) although I could get the jist. I then suggested that she send plain text. I don't run any locales but have LANG=C. Her

Re: fixing .txt files sent from a MS$ user

2008-04-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:39:55AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: My niece sends some of her schoolwork to my wife (e.g. essays) for her to read. First she sent .doc files which I can't access properly (no, I do no run OO) although I could get the jist. I then suggested that she send plain

Re: fixing .txt files sent from a MS$ user

2008-04-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Andr? C?sar de S? wrote: On 04/04/2008, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, My niece sends some of her schoolwork to my wife (e.g. essays) for her to read. First she sent .doc files which I can't access properly (no, I do

Re: fixing .txt files sent from a MS$ user

2008-04-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 06:33:27PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2008-04-04 17:57 +0200, John Hasler wrote: Douglas writes: My niece sends some of her schoolwork to my wife (e.g. essays) for her to read. First she sent .doc files which I can't access properly (no, I do no run OO)

Re: pc compatibility

2008-04-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 01:29:26PM -0700, remigio wrote: I'd like to buy an Acer Aspire m1610 for a very convenient low price, but before this I want to know the Debian Etch compatibility on this pc. Have someone had an experience in this way? Thanks very much. Don't know but if its

Re: fixing .txt files sent from a MS$ user

2008-04-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:29:44PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: On 04/04/2008 10:47 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:39:55AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: My niece sends some of her schoolwork to my wife (e.g. essays) for her to read. First she sent .doc files which I can't

Re: virtual text consoles gone

2008-04-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 10:26:02AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my AMD64 etch system, cntl-alt-F1 has stopped giving me a text console a month or two ago. Now I haven't been doing anything much to it excpet for regular upgrades, and the installation of an ocasional new Debian

Re: server security :: user accounts, ssh, passphrases, etc.

2008-04-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 08:33:34PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: * s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080402 19:28]: Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If the server's compromised, you should reinstall. My concern is not for corruption of the server. My concern is whether -- if I

Re: Suggest one tool to collect favorite web pages?

2008-04-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 02:50:47AM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: On 04/01/2008 10:44 AM, Michael Yang wrote: Is there any good tools you can recommend to save the web pages? When I find some pages that I'm interested in, or some good articles, I would like to save it (the content, not the link

Re: dpkg --configure -a crashed the system

2008-04-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 03:27:59AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 06:51:49PM +1000, hce wrote: I ran following command and got an error. $ apt-get install lighttpd E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg

Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 06:06:03PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/31/08 17:42, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 02:09:10PM +1100, Owen

Re: AMD Athlon XP3200

2008-04-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 04:16:38PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 31 March 2008 12:24:05 pm Phil Wiley wrote: My computer uses an AMD XP3200 processor. Which set of instructions should I use? The ones that apply to your system's architecture. If you used to run Windows, odds are

Re: Suggest one tool to collect favorite web pages?

2008-04-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 11:44:16AM -0400, Michael Yang wrote: Is there any good tools you can recommend to save the web pages? When I find some pages that I'm interested in, or some good articles, I would like to save it (the content, not the link url) on my system, so that I can review it

Re: just like the old days (TeTeX to TeXLive)

2008-04-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 02:33:28AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/31/08 23:39, Jim McCloskey wrote: [snip] Thank you very much. This file is of a daunting size (7096 lines). It Send it to the band printer in the computer room? I don't know, my Epson LQ-2080 would handle that just fine;

Re: Disabled /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-daemon: adverse reactions?

2008-03-31 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 05:38:17PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: My booting of Etch was being slowed by /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-daemon, so I removed execute permissions from that file, and now my boots are 10 seconds faster. However, the avahi-daemon still starts. Will there be any adverse

Re: want to speed up laptop

2008-03-31 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:46:44PM -0400, Michael Yang wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:26 AM, jeffry s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:12:06AM -0500, Preston Boyington

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:10:07PM +0800, paragasu wrote: There is a lot more than just the I/O scheduler. It just popped into my head because I am doing the configuration right now, myself, and because of the debate/controversy about it. Also, you will want to build the device drivers

Re: What is this ata exception

2008-03-31 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:04:28PM +, T o n g wrote: I saw the following for the first time when I rebooted just now: Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: cmd b0/d2:f1:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00

Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-03-31 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 02:09:10PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote: Hey, They also alphabetically increment with each release and Gutsy Gibbon, Hardy

Re: just like the old days (TeTeX to TeXLive)

2008-03-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:00:13AM -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote: Lord, so I decided to upgrade my laptop (a Lenovo T60) to testing/lenny so as to try out TeXLive and suddenly found myself in one of those linux weekends of long ago (which I've never been sure if I missed or not) when you're up

Re: want to speed up laptop

2008-03-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 08:26:13PM +0800, jeffry s wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:12:06AM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: use xfce4 instead of gnome or kde. it help a lot. my laptop is old

Re: Reg Blind

2008-03-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:06:28PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 09:11:13PM +, Suzy Hesketh wrote: I am registered blind but I do have some limited sight. I have never used Debian but I have looked at Dream. My IRC administrator uses Debian and so does my friend who

Re: Can we run a qemu instance as a dedicated home network firewall?

2008-03-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:20:26AM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: Can we use a virtual qemu linux machine as a firewall for a real home network? Well, on normal i386 hardware (unlike e.g. Zseries with LPARs), virtualization doesn't gain you any security really. Think of it this way: the only way

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:17:59AM +0800, paragasu wrote: i have a small vps with only 64MB memory. i am trying to run a costume made PHP well, assume i don't have enough money to buy a better server. it is possible to make a very fast server with compiling the source code etc.. thank

Re: /etc/hosts + resolvconf (was Re: associating names and addresses)

2008-03-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 03:13:27AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:39:22PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: If you want more definitive UNIX networking, try UNIX System Administration Handbook. Rather expensive last time I saw it. :-( Sure, about $80 new. However

Re: [OT] Paste board on the Internet

2008-03-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 01:45:07PM +, T o n g wrote: I once saw people put their long log output (eg xorg log) to the Internet paste board to shorten the question here. But can't find such posts any more. So, do you know any Internet paste board that is hassle free? which one do your

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 07:43:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 25 March 2008 11:43:37 pm Wei Chen wrote: The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search engines. This

Re: curious -anyone else seeing this?

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 03:18:57PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Mumia W.. wrote on 2008-03-26 12:55: I'm just a user. I meant that I configured my mailreader to ignore such messages. But yes, someone (not I) should inform sculpture.cz of the problem. It's probably futile though; if

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:58:02AM -0700, Jeff wrote: If you want Debian to be popular with more people, work at making it better for more people. However, be careful not to make it worse for the previously loyal users. If you add fancy but fragile knobs and eye-candy, the fragility will

Re: Can I configure one truetype font for ghostscript while bitmap fonts for other applications?

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:21:35PM -0700, Wu Kejia wrote: Because truetype font is somewhat obscure on screen, I wish to use truetype as printing font while bitmap fonts for screen display. Can I do that? What do you mean obscure? If you use bitmap fonts for screen display, you'll get a lousy

Re: exim/postfix comparisons

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:13:37PM +0100, Martin Marcher wrote: I guess I'll add myself to the sendmail people then. Can't be that bad and I don't plan to spend vast amounts of time on that, only on a as needed basis :) If it were me and I only knew postfix, I'd find something else to do

Re: How to store/get hosts names when using dhcp ?

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:57:09PM -0400, Jabka Atu wrote: I'm upgrading my small home network . today i use /etc/hosts on each machine to figure out where each host goe's as in : 192.168.0.1 whitebox.rent.net whitebox 192.168.0.2 bluebox.rent.net bluebox 192.168.0.3 blackbox.rent.net

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 05:31:05PM -0600, Walt L. Williams wrote: On Thursday, 27 March 2008 9:19 am, Bogdan Marian wrote: Netinst sound like its doing it over the internet. I only have dialup (college budget) Thanks for the info. I WILL investigate it for future use. So, I only have

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 05:38:30PM -0600, Walt L. Williams wrote: Where can I find more information on apt-get? More that the small PDF that I have already downloaded. Will it do a search for applications using key words? I installed KDE by completely de-installing Gnome and then installing

Re: vmsplice bug, javascript vulnerable ?

2008-03-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:51:25PM +1200, C.T.F. Jansen wrote: Greetings, Regarding the root compromise in Debian 4.0R1, DSA 1491-1, relating to vserver and vmsplice. Can one disable this feature or not enable it, without breaking the kernel or anything else ? Is it possible for

Re: Upgrade from Sarge to Etch Satisfactorily Completed

2008-03-25 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 04:19:15AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:33 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even with computers with BIOS too old to boot from CD, Debian CDs provide sbm (smart boot manager) which can boot it from a

Re: curious -anyone else seeing this?

2008-03-25 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:22:55PM -0700, David Fox wrote: Recently I'm getting a bounce message on every post to debian-user. I figure some of you who post a lot more than I do can see what is going on. I just got one again: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to[EMAIL PROTECTED], date Tue, Mar

Re: /etc/hosts + resolvconf (was Re: associating names and addresses)

2008-03-25 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:22:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# less /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 box localhost Conclusion Well now I see that the correct solution to the original problem was to leave /etc/hosts with the line 127.0.0.1

Re: exim/postfix comparisons

2008-03-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:13:19PM +0100, Martin Marcher wrote: I've been a happy user of postfix for a long time but I generally consider it a knowledge lag not to know at least one competing product (which I don't). So it's time to change that and since I use debian I figured it can't be

Re: Tunnel iceweasel?

2008-03-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:46:56AM +0100, Joost Witteveen wrote: On 23/03/2008, Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to tunnel an iceweasel instance via ssh from one of my boxes at my house to remember the name of an add-on i installed. The

Re: Configuring dhcp3 to send hostname mappings to clients

2008-03-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 01:45:55PM +0100, Joost Witteveen wrote: On 23/03/2008, Reid Priedhorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, My /etc/hosts contains a handful of mappings useful on my internal subnet: 10.0.0.2 reidster.net reidster 10.0.0.4

Re: amd 690g chipset

2008-03-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 07:45:47PM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:56:45 -0400 Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would suggest trying links2. It is light weight but does javascript, SSL, etc and will help you decide if the problem is the browser or the video

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