how it is configured?
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The digi driver was supposed to build dpa and ditty, two
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I cannot get them to compile seperately.
I generally use ckermit or stty and cat/echo. I avoid minicom.
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When I do an interactive dpkg --list, it displayes complete
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packages.
Have I confused myself somehow?
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I get packages from the woody/testing?
My banner claims it's Debian 3.0 but all of the available packages are
from potato. What to I have to do to switch my system over so that it
actually uses packages from woody?
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 12:10:11AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
The next thing I can't figure out is why dpkg is using potato packages and
apt-get is using stable. The available list in /var/lib/dpkg shows all
packages are from potato, and apt-get's
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That should be cool then. Thanks!
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Klaus Imgrund writes:
a. complain to and scream at
People frequently complain and scream at this mailing list.
With far more helpful responses that any you'll get from most
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MS beat the federal government into submission. You don't
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If you're going for 5 9s you'll have plenty of redundancy and
hot-swapable everything. You may need a CPU/drive/PS replaced,
but it doesn't generally have to be done in 5 minutes.
However, you're at a higher risk until all the redundancy is
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within a collision domain is strictly
limited for the reasons you describe. All ports on a hub are
still in the same collision domain, so adding a hub doesn't let
you start over when you're adding up max lengths.
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provide some advice?
I prefer jpilot generally (requires pilot-sync), but I use plan
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'pincushion problems. Are the edges of the
displayed area straight? (Assuming you can see the egdes.)
Look for a pincushion adjustment on your monitor, and play with
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third party runs the gateway to news.
So far, it appears that the mail-news gateways is well run: I
checked for a while, and I never noticed any lost messages. The
developer list also has a mirror, but it seems a bit less
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an error message from grub and the kernel
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in the packaging-manual package.
Where is it currently available?
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. Is there a downloadable (PDF or single HTML page) or
searchable version somewhere? The online version is too chopped
up for searching.
[I don't have access to the CVS server, though it could be
arranged. What format are the sources?]
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The bug I'm describing is triggered by messages signed w/ PGP
or GPG according to the RFC. Outlook treats them as
attachments.
OE users will attest to this as this particular post will
trigger that bug.
You're describing a different bug in OE. There are so many
from which to choose...
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running Outlook and Outlook
Express. I've never had a problem.
Is there a setting I am missing, or do I have to strong-arm
them all to use Eudora (which also works fine)? Getting them
onto Linux is another step, but one thing at a time...
What is the failure mode?
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group comp.mail.mutt is probably the definitive
place to ask for help, since I doubt there's anything
Debian-specific going on.
If you have no other way to access Usenet, you can use Google:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=group=comp.mail.mutt
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that was done by somebody
at RedHat. It's not in the official release of grub, though I
think it's in CVS now.
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, but it seems more stupid the longer I look at it.
There's also a link from /etc/grub.conf
/etc/grub.conf - ../boot/grub/grub.conf
/boot/grub/menu.lst - ./grub.conf
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. It's not in the official release of grub, though I
think it's in CVS now.
That's right. The graphical patch just missed 0.92. However,
the stuff in CVS should be much better behaved than RedHat's patch, if I
hear correctly.
What sort of improvements have been made?
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to be talking to a brick wall,
so I'll leave the discussion now.
Sorry to sound obtuse, but people kept pointing out the
problems with news-mail bots and gateways and that wasn't what
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I don't think that can cause a loop, and it will allow people
to follow-up from newsreaders.
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On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:00:22PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Grant Edwards wrote:
In the muc groups' articles, why not set the followup-to:
header to be the mailing list e-mail address?
Because newsreaders are expecting newsgroups to be listed
the list.
This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
newsgroups, but postings to muc.l.d.u don't seem to get mailed
to the list. Why not set up muc.l.d.u as a moderated group
with postings going to the mailing list?
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This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
newsgroups, but postings to muc.l.d.u don't seem to get mailed
to the list. Why not set up muc.l.d.u as a moderated group
with postings going to the mailing list
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On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:38:36AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
Colin Watson wrote:
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:13:51AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
newsgroups, but postings
that they can point to a mailbot
that tells people they should be mailing articles to the mailing list.
However, I'm not even sure if the person who would handle that reads
this list.)
Why not just mail the article to the mailing list?
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On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:30:54AM -0700, Andrew Agno wrote:
Grant Edwards writes:
Somebody else out there must be using PCMCIA support. It
simply _can't_ be as broken as it appears to be.
I don't think it is. On my testing box, the stock 2.4.17 kernel and
pcmcia modules works fine
-modules is
installed and it should then use modprobe (which will load
isa-pnp). That way I also get more up-to-date drivers.
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for the script, but since I
don't understand the purpose behind this section, I don't know
if my fix would break things in other situations.
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On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 04:54:03PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
it is trying to decide if it should use pcmcia_cs or the 2.4.x pcmcia kernel
code. (PC for pcmcia_cs, KD for kernel)
Yes. I know.
The question I really asked were:
1) Why not used modprobe in the pcmcia_cs case?
2
UI (but I don't think it
uses the forms library). I've done a little with ncurses and
CDK, but nothing with the forms library. You probably ought to
ask in comp.os.linux.development.apps. I assume you've already
looked at http://dickey.his.com/ncurses/...
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 08:54:28AM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 12:01:11AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 09:10:42PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
[..]
You're learning C and ypu started with a curses/forms app?
Curses (and esp the SysV form stuff
getting events and sending them to the right place.
Actually, it appears that the form library does provide a
semi-event-driven model where you can attach callbacks to
various fields and events. See man form_hook for example.
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not letting everybody roam as root, are you !?
Bad choice of words on my part. By user I mean the eventual
owner (and administrator) of the box.
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 08:38:25PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
on the first, check the output of chkwtmp.
None of my machines have chkwtmp, but it turns out that
mgetty is what's causing the huge wtmp files. I don't know if
it's init or mgetty itself that's causing the problem.
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None of my machines have chkwtmp, but it turns out that
mgetty is what's causing the huge wtmp files. I don't know if
it's init or mgetty itself that's causing the problem.
For the sake of posterity, here's the deal
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 02:55:55PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
On my Woody system, there's nothing in /etc/logrotate.d
except the file for the base-config. Yet, looking at
/var/log shows that syslog, messages, daemon.log user.log,
and other stuff are clearly being rotated
about 10% of the posts have shown up in the
newsgroup.
My preference would be to use the newsgroup, but right now I'm
reading both since the connection between them seems iffy.
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from for rotating the other files?
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 02:55:55PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
1) Why are is my wtmp file so huge? I've got a Woody system
that I installed about two weeks ago. I log into it a few
times a day, and the wtmp file is up to over 13MB in 16
days.
On the RH7.2 system on which
what was in that file:
Since /etc/logrotate.conf only rotates wtmp and btmp, and
/etc/logrotate.d doesn't control anything except
installer.* files, where is logrotate getting instructions
from for rotating the other files?
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 05:08:54PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
Doing a dpkg --configure pkgname won't work because the
packages have already been configured.
I just stumbled
a Debian system.
i'm not sure *how* they get on the system, but my guess is that
it's simply part of the install process, as opposed to the
package installation process which occurs after the base
system is installed.
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not, but so far, I haven't figured out how to (for
example) reconfigure the IP network info.
I could give customers a list of files and instructions to edit
them, but since there are already newt/dialog based utilities
to _do_ that, I was hoping to take advantage of them.
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dpkg-reconfigure for the third set.
Thanks. That clears things up. I might do something using
newt to handle the first set.
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() in network.opts
that did a iwpriv card_reset. Otherwise the card would only
find the AP the first time it was inserted.
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 05:08:54PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
Doing a dpkg --configure pkgname won't work because the
packages have already been configured.
I just stumbled across dpkg-reconfigure (a mention of
dpkg-reconfigure on the dpkg man page might be a good idea).
Now, if only
to write something using newt or whatever that
just duplicates the various postinst scripts...
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driver.)
What is the right way to add support for this card? I could
build wlan-ng from sources, but then I'd have a system that
can't be automatically updated. Because of support issues, I'm
very adverse to using things that aren't supported Debian
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.deb files, but I know
where the docs are (it can't be that much different than
creating RPM packages), and I'm going to need to do that
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2) Are the drivers from wlan-ng compatible with the existing
drivers from the pcmcia-cs package? IOW, could I just add
prism2_cs.o to the pcmcia-cs pacakge.
Apparently not. There seem to be two incomatible PCMCIA
I've noticed that a few of the messages in this list show up in
linux.debian.user, but most of them don't. Is there a
newsgroup version of the list somewhere?
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Various sources have recommended doing rm -rf */pcmcia before
building a kernel from sources (assuming you're goign to use
the pcmcia stuff in the pcmcia-cs package).
If I do that, the make dies because it's looking for stuff in
those directories.
Am I missing a step??
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Various sources have recommended doing rm -rf */pcmcia before
building a kernel from sources (assuming you're goign to use
the pcmcia stuff in the pcmcia-cs package).
If I do
a symlink from /usr/src/linux --
whereever is required. I've never done that, and it seems to
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be a directory)
/usr/include/linux - /usr/src/linux/include/linux
That seems to be fairly widely depricated these days. The file
in /usr/include/linux are supposed to correspond with glibc,
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package for above-mentioned product, but I'm wondering if I
should also include a similarly configured 2.2 kernel-image...
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:29:28PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
#include hallo.h
Grant Edwards wrote on Wed Apr 17, 2002 um 12:32:09PM:
I notice that woody installs a 2.2 kernel instead of a 2.4
Then you should read Release Notes
I did. I didn't find the answer to my question. Can you
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My concern is that if Debian hasn't switched to a 2.4 kernel,
there must be a reason. If I start shipping a product with
Debian running a 2.4 kernel, I don't want to find out
. I think I'll ship both 2.2 and 2.4 kernels and let
the customer pick which one they want to use. I'll probably
configure the bootloader to use the 2.4 kernel by default.
Since I'm building for a known-in-advance platform there's not
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2.2.20 by default. I don't see it on stable, and
last time I asked about it I was told to get it off testing.
I installed woody last week from the floppy images and I got
2.2.20. I don't remember what I got when I installed potato
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Grant Edwards wrote:
I notice that woody installs a 2.2 kernel instead of a 2.4
kernel. Are the reasons behind that decision?
2.2 was current when woody was in development.
I'm not sure what
I've been building Linux kernels since version
0.99.something. I just tried generating a kernel-image .deb
package, and it worked first try.
I have to say that kernel-package is just too cool.
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On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:11:38PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
But then again, do you *really* want to buy a computer from the evil
empire?
Bill Gates is selling computers now?
Aside from those video game things?
I bet the tech support department at Wall Mart is really
top-notch!
;)
that
cause layout errors (module loading sub-system).
I've seen this on two systems so far.
Myabe I've got broken floppies???
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On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:17:30PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
I'm trying to configure a 2.2r5 system for dial-in PPP access.
The dail-in part works fine, but when the dial-in user starts
pppd using exec /usr/sbin/pppd -detach, the ppp daemon just
sits there forever: deaf and dumb until it's
, but I can't figure out why enabling VESA FB support
caused this. Any hints?
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 07:20:58PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
I compiled 2.2.20 with VESA frame buffer support enabled, and
now I have a runaway modprobe loop:
[...]
I'm going to try again with unix and pf_packet compiled into
the kernel,
That fixed it, but I don't know what caused
Where can I find the .config files for the kernel image
installed by the normal Debian install process?
I'd like to tweak a couple things, and it would be nice to
start with a known working configuration rather have to figure
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Apr 9 09:44:49 debain pppd[246]: Terminating on signal 15.
Apr 9 09:44:49 debain pppd[246]: Exit.
[I have to kill pppd from another session]
I've tried dozens of combinations of options in
/etc/ppp/options (starting with the values from the PPP HOWTO).
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Grant Edwards writes:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:46:52PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote:
Where can I find the .config files for the kernel image
installed by the normal Debian install process?
/boot/config-2.4.17
re-installation. This is not so with
Debian. Try it, you'll like it.
I don't want to spend time fighting with getting the 2.2r[56]
to support my hardware if it's already supported in woody.
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figure I might as well upgrade now before I invest a lot of time tweaking
stuff which may or may not need re-tweaking when I upgrade to Woody and a
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I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing
Netscape.
Opera is the best I've found (though Mozilla is coming along
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Is there one particular getty program that is typically used
for Debian systems (uugetty, mgetty, agetty, ...) ?
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On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 09:58:20AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
On 08-Apr-2002 Grant Edwards wrote:
Is there one particular getty program that is typically used
for Debian systems (uugetty, mgetty, agetty, ...) ?
you get agetty by default.
You're right! For some reason I thought
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:25:11AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
on Mon, Apr 08, 2002, Grant Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Is there one particular getty program that is typically used
for Debian systems (uugetty, mgetty, agetty, ...) ?
$ ps aux | grep [g]etty
root
it select the entire field instead. Ctrl-P, Ctrl-N, Ctrl-F
also do various things my fingers don't expect.
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On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:01:00PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
I would like to know what are the tools available out there to make
some fancy network drawings.
I like sketch: sketch.sourceforge.net
It doesn't come with pre-draw clip-art, though.
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based SBCs available from various vendors. Where I work we're
using a geode-based board from IPC in a thin client product.
Except for a flakey VGA console mode, they seem to work well.
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On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 10:46:07PM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote:
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 08:56:26PM -0600, Grant Edwards wrote:
Can anybody recommend a decent book on Debian system
administration? I stopped at the local computer store on my
way home and browsed through books published
to install a
whole bunch of packages (71 to be exact) including such
disk-hogs as emacs.
I never selected any of those packages for installation. Why
does dselect want to install them?
I've reinstalled twice from scratch, and it has done the same
thing every time.
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