On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:54:16PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:29:24PM +0300, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:48:34PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:41:23PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
As much as I dislike systemd, I'm not sure that it's a vendor
conspiracy to control the Linux
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 08:29:28PM -0500, Marty wrote:
On 11/16/2014 03:32 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Marty wrote:
snip
My point is that in a modular design nothing should be so entrenched
as to be irreplaceable. Absence of an alternate should
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 04:09:52PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
On 11/16/2014 at 02:51 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:28:35PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
[about the Linux kernel developers]
They do, however, maintain their external interfaces - rigidly so,
sometimes
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:44:06AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
One thing at a time.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Ludovic Meyer ludo.v.me...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Your definition of mainstream is strange.
What's strange about it? Do I need to provide a link to the dictionary
for you
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts. I just went through the
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:41:14AM +0300, Reco wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 07:15:38PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:29:24PM +0300, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:48:34PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:41:23PM -0500
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:25:01PM -0500, Marty wrote:
On 11/15/2014 07:45 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:26:26AM -0500, Marty wrote:
On 11/11/2014 02:16 PM, Brian wrote:
On Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 12:36:14 -0500, Marty wrote:
On 11/11/2014 12:07 PM, Laurent Bigonville wrote
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:41:23PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Marty wrote:
On 11/15/2014 07:45 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:26:26AM -0500, Marty wrote:
On 11/11/2014 02:16 PM, Brian wrote:
On Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 12:36:14 -0500, Marty wrote:
On 11/11/2014 12:07 PM
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 09:43:23PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
I have been informed off-list that some might misinterpret something I
wrote here, so I will attempt to clarify a few things.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:04 PM,
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:50:25AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts.
I just went through the
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 06:08:48PM +, Martin Read wrote:
On 16/11/14 17:33, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Are you aware that this is the approach that systemd and upstart have
taken, right?
1) Both systemd (PID1) and upstart are drop-in replacement for the good
old SysVinit as they both
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:28:35PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
On 11/16/2014 at 11:23 AM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 09:43:23PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
I have been informed off-list that some might misinterpret
something I wrote here, so I will attempt to clarify a few
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Marty wrote:
On 11/16/2014 05:26 AM, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Le Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:21:49 -0500,
Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com a écrit :
On 11/15/2014 06:49 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
[...]
At least some of people rejecting systemd demand that it
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:26:26AM -0500, Marty wrote:
On 11/11/2014 02:16 PM, Brian wrote:
On Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 12:36:14 -0500, Marty wrote:
On 11/11/2014 12:07 PM, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
There are no functional differences between an installation with
sysvinit-core out of the box or
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:37:14AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Sat 15 Nov 2014 at 13:49:18 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 14 nov 14, 08:04:00, Marty wrote:
By the same token systemd is a major waste with no real gain. It duplicates
equivalent modular alternatives, and
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:05:49PM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
Le 15/11/2014 20:24, Brian a écrit :
On Sat 15 Nov 2014 at 11:37:14 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Sat 15 Nov 2014 at 13:49:18 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 14 nov 14, 08:04:00, Marty wrote:
By the same
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 03:43:40PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 11/15/2014 7:20 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Vi, 14 nov 14, 08:55:47, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 11/14/2014 5:26 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
It was claimed that sysvinit was the default
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 04:49:48PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/20/2014 02:35 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
If you mean you are actually DOSing Debian's support channels just to
make you're point that's likely to get you banned instead, besides not
achieving anything.
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On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 09:34:48PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:45:11 -0700
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
After much vitriolic gnashing of teeth from those opposed to systemd,
I wonder... What is a better alternative?
* Nosh
So this one is fun, it is
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 02:46:46AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:12:17 +0200
Ludovic Meyer ludo.v.me...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 09:34:48PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:45:11 -0700
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:02:38AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
There are other choices to
- do nothing as weve done for 20 years
- do it now
In particular, one can take a holistic view: not just Stable - Jessie,
but rather Stable - Jessie - Jessie+1
and work out the least disruptive, most
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