Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2018-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.: > > However, whether to ship akonadi trunk/beta/final of the next version > > is another question which is still open. In my opinion, Akonadi > > itself is > > > > pretty mature so it might be doable. > > I didn't complain well. This is

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2018-05-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Sune Vuorela: > On 2010-05-06, Curt Howland wrote: > > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say: > >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote: > >> > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2018-05-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag 10 Mai 2010 schrieb Nate Bargmann: > * On 2010 10 May 11:50 -0500, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Yes, 4.2 and now 4.4 seem to behave badly without a clean ~/.kde. I > > find that very disturbing and unstable. > > For the record, I had a clean ~/.kde for 4.2 when it hit Sid about a > year ago

Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2018-05-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Modestas Vainius: > Hello, > > On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 23:48:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: [...] > > > YOU assume that your truth is an ultimate one. > > > > Not really. I made objective statement about KMail based on > > observable facts. I also

plasma desktop changes positions of widgets after I moved them

2018-05-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Did someone else notice this? https://bugs.kde.org/232171 I wonder if this could be partly debian / ubuntu specific as Bojan commented that he couldn't find it on other distros. But then to what I know Debian and Ubuntu package KDE seperately. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald -

please no further bug reports about co-installability of plasma/kf5 and kde-l10n-some-language

2016-06-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! I hope this gets through even tough I am not subscribed currently. (I am not interested in any replies, if you have questions, please ask on debian-kde mailing list, thank you.) I may only partly reach the target audience here: Please stop reporting that kf5/plasma5 and kde-10-somelang

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 9. Januar 2015, 00:24:06 schrieb Brian: On Thu 08 Jan 2015 at 22:36:46 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 14:20:27 schrieb Jerry Stuckle: Just ensure you're using good security practices - don't allow root login, use long, random passwords, etc. I

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 14:20:27 schrieb Jerry Stuckle: As for the attacks - I've seen a big uptake in the attacks over the last couple of weeks. The worst I've seen is 100 IP's locked out in one 24 hour period. They are coming from all over the world, although since there are a lot

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 14:20:27 schrieb Jerry Stuckle: As for the attacks - I've seen a big uptake in the attacks over the last couple of weeks. The worst I've seen is 100 IP's locked out in one 24 hour period. They are coming from all over the world, although since there are a lot

Re: Please stop systemd-fsck on _every_ boot!

2015-01-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 22:13:26 schrieb ~Stack~: In summary: * I have systemd-fsck disabled just about every damn place I can find to do so, yet it still runs on boot every time. I see it on the screen and in the log messages. * I still can't find where the hell systemd stores the same

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 19:20:20 schrieb Brian: On Tue 06 Jan 2015 at 19:47:09 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 21:51:26 schrieb Danny: Hi guys, I am afraid my happiness was short lived. To test if the deletion of the file (and the effects thereof

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 21:51:26 schrieb Danny: Hi guys, I am afraid my happiness was short lived. To test if the deletion of the file (and the effects thereof) would be permanent I rebooted the system and consequently found another file (same size, same random lettering) booted up

Re: Hard Drive Issues - smartmontools

2015-01-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 12:21:45 schrieb Jape Person: Hello, folks! Please help me save my old Sony VAIO desktop system. I have two very old Sony VAIO systems, one desktop and one notebook. They have PATA drives. I run Debian testing (updated every day) on them. They've run testing

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 20:04:56 schrieb Danny: Hi guys, Hi Danny! A while ago I posted a question about SFTP (I think the thread name was SFTP Question) about attacks I got against my server after syslog warned me about an attempted breakin. Consequently I installed fail2ban and did

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 08:35:00 schrieb Erwan David: Le 02/12/2014 23:15, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014, 18:47:38 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:22:13 -0700 Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: It's a waste. They shouldn't

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 12:39:26 schrieb Laurent Bigonville: Le Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:18:36 +0100, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de a écrit : Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 08:35:00 schrieb Erwan David: Le 02/12/2014 23:15, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Dienstag, 2

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-02 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014, 18:47:38 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:22:13 -0700 Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: It's a waste. They shouldn't have left. I'm pretty neutral about systemd as I'm only an end user but I disklike having it forced upon me this

Re: Not this again

2014-11-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 18. November 2014, 00:29:15 schrieb golinux: UGH! Looks like Gregory Smith has returned with a new handle - SystemBlues. Does anybody read his swill? No. And I see no point in discussing this here in yet another somewhat systemd related thread. I regularily delete all his mails

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X - SOLVED

2014-11-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 07:24:04 schrieb Joel Roth: On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 05:58:38PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 05:55:58 schrieb Joel Roth: On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 12:15:09PM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -1000

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 7. November 2014, 22:21:27 schrieb Joel Roth: Hi list, Hi Joel, I need larger mouse pointers. I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong to the window manager. My first attempt was: Wow, what a challenge

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X - SOLVED

2014-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 05:55:58 schrieb Joel Roth: On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 12:15:09PM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -1000 Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote: Hi list, I need larger mouse pointers. I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window

Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-02 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 2. November 2014, 16:17:05 schrieb Martin Manns: Dear all Hi Martin, After switching to systemd, I would like to get back the following behavior: Mount multiple lvm-crypt volumes with password entry on startup. Mount several loopback devices from files within these volumes.

Re: Suggestion for systemd and /usr on seperate partition

2014-10-30 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello Hans! Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014, 10:27:50 schrieb Hans: Dear maintainers, You only reach the systemd maintainers by pure luck this way. I know one is subscribed to debian-user-german, I am not sure about debian-user. I suggest you use BTS or dig for a debian systemd maintainers

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-27 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Please do not Cc me personally. Hello Lee, Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, 00:05:03 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. On any account, my attempt to bring this upstream did not produce

Re: Avoiding SystemD isn't hard

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 07:04:12 schrieb Jape Person: On 10/21/2014 09:22 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote: which is immediately followed by completely inaccurate information, including: -- With jessie, it will

Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
I understand people creating new threads partly now, as any thread with the magic word list admins seem to put into the thread filter easily Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 13:40:49 schrieb Jochen Spieker: Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable

Debian and upstream choices (was: Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD)

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 13:40:49 schrieb Jochen Spieker: Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Jimmy, Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 09:17:16 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2014, 19:49:43 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: So, what would you all propose? For a server? Or for a user desktop? Or something that fulfills both scenarios? And why

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 12:34:16 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 11:37:51 schrieben Sie: Its Jessie/Sid that are under some circumstances difficult to use without systemd. As to my current knowledge one of the circumstances

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2014, 19:49:43 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: So, what would you all propose? For a server? Or for a user desktop? Or something that fulfills both scenarios? And why? Just wondering. See above and unless you are a tester or developer you may want to roll-back to

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Raffaele, Am Dienstag, 21. Oktober 2014, 10:18:49 schrieb Raffaele Morelli: Here are some interesting things one should be aware of before http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html Read enough about but still haven't read something really valuable against systemd from eg.

insane hibernation policy (war: Re: All roads to suspend/hibernate lead through systemd?)

2014-10-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Joe, Am Samstag, 18. Oktober 2014, 21:17:48 schrieb Joe: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:44:23 -0500 Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us wrote: No, this is not a troll (seems like that is necessary to state up front). I have been experimenting with dropping systemd from my laptop running Sid but find

Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2014, 18:52:41 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel: hi, it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1) has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly for samba (5 minutes). Trying to kill samba manually before the shutdown did not

Re: About chromium in Jessie - API keys missing and Clang

2014-10-13 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Florent, Am Montag, 13. Oktober 2014, 09:43:40 schrieb Florent Peterschmitt: Hello, I'm curious about two thing in the chromium browser package in Debian Jessie: - I (we?) get a message about Chromium API keys missing. Does that avoid Chromium being able to speak with google for sync

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 7. Oktober 2014, 09:28:51 schrieb The Wanderer: On 10/07/2014 at 02:58 AM, Joel Rees wrote: As Don pointed out, it's the threads that have been clipped, as it were, not the topics: I think it's probably just as well, as those threads themselves were started by either a

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2014, 17:42:14 schrieb Steve Litt: Hi all, Several of my posts to lists.debian.org have not made it to the list, as defined by both my inbox and the list archive. These posts all had something in common, and it was *not* swearwords or gratuitous personal insults. So

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Miles, Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 11:09:07 schrieb Miles Fidelman: Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 01:45:50 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 14:51:01 schrieb Miles Fidelman: John Hasler wrote: Miles Fidelman writes: the technical committee selects takes a vote that essentially imposes systemd on all of the upstream developers and packagers Where the hell do you get that from? Isn't that

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 13:08:50 schrieb The Wanderer: On 09/26/2014 at 12:44 PM, Martin Read wrote: On 26/09/14 16:09, Miles Fidelman wrote: - but the resulting impacts should be taken up with each and every upstream developer? As far as I can see, the issue that people are

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 19:08:13 schrieb Ric Moore: On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote: Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500: Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and hide his doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to harden

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 27. September 2014, 22:04:38 schrieb lee: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers of systemd to fix the issues it brings about. They cannot be unaware of

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 27. September 2014, 22:13:21 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 10:43:14 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers of systemd

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 27. September 2014, 22:55:36 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Why do I think that you do not want change from the *current* situation? Cause what you do, in my oppinion does not facilitate change. I think I see why you think so. What makes you think

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 04:35:03 schrieb lee: Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk writes: On 27/09/14 21:04, lee wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=990177 Your complaint about the interface is reasonable. The systemd developers' decision to not change the interface

Re: systemd and server use

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 13:36:27 schrieb Dan Ritter: On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 01:02:16PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/26/2014 at 12:26 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:03:57 +0200 Martin Steigerwald mar

Re: systemd and server use

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 13:02:16 schrieb The Wanderer: Martin, I don't think anybody's complaining about those features. Those are excellent features that should be done in PID 1. Actually, some people (I believe including me) are in fact complaining about the inclusion of the

Re: systemd and server use

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 22:41:04 schrieb Reco: Hi. On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 13:02:16 -0400 The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/26/2014 at 12:26 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:03:57 +0200 Martin

Re: About dependency creep

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 13:00:08 schrieb Peter Nieman: On 25/09/14 18:16, Martin Steigerwald wrote: The KDE project has spent *years* of development to reduce dependency creep. I don't think KDE is the problem here. I don't remember ever having run into a situation where installing

Re: systemd and server use (was: Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream)

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 23:21:36 schrieb martin f krafft: also sprach Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com [2014-09-26 18:26 +0200]: If systemd was just a PID1 with the features you enumerate above, I'd be dancing in the street, not looking for a way out. Beautiful. I had to:

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 23:50:45 schrieb Chris Bannister: On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:32:38 -0400 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/27/2014 02:49 PM, lee wrote: Just ask yourself: Why would someone choose to

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 12:55:32 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 23:50:45 schrieb Chris Bannister: On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:32:38 -0400 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/27

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 07:51:14 schrieb The Wanderer: On 09/28/2014 at 05:34 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: It may also be true that systemd upstream won´t be willing to implement the change you want to see. But if you choose to keep your power with yourself, instead of giving

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 11:18:22 schrieb Steve Litt: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:02:35 +0200 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 14:51:01 schrieb Miles Fidelman: John Hasler wrote: Miles Fidelman writes: the technical committee selects

Re: systemd and server use

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 12:51:52 schrieb Steve Litt: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:09:48 +0200 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: As far as I remember Lennart or another systemd developers explained in detail why it was done this way, and that it can´t be done in any other

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 01:58:44 schrieb lee: Or to *help*. Make a logind that does not depend on systemd. Offer it to the upstreams that need it. I'm sure it would be ignored or rejected --- even if I had the knowledge to make anything like that and was able to keep up

systemd and server use (was: Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream)

2014-09-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 22:53:09 schrieb The Wanderer: On 09/25/2014 at 06:09 AM, martin f krafft wrote: But dependency creep is unfortunately nothing new ever since we declared next year the Year of Linux of the Desktop and forgot that the Universal Operating System should

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 10:43:14 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers of systemd to fix the issues it brings about. They cannot be unaware of them, so obviously they don't want to fix

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-25 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 01:45:50 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Do you really think they will be able to prevent all the other software from

About dependency creep (was: Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream)

2014-09-25 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 12:09:20 schrieb martin f krafft: also sprach lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de [2014-09-25 01:45 +0200]: Just one day they might wake up and find out that it was a very bad idea to depend on systemd, and then it'll be difficult to do without. That day was

Re: find

2014-09-24 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2014, 17:29:22 schrieb Gokan Atmaca: Within a directory backup tar.gz files you want to delete older than 1 day. I'm doing this as follows. But do not be. find /backup/ +1 -delete -mtime Can you help? find /backup -mtime +0 -delete find counts days as

Re: More FUD for everyone: Computers Are Dangerous! (Users are devs, after all.)

2014-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2014, 11:02:47 schrieb Joel Rees: There are some people who are trying to squelch conversations on this list with cries of FUD! FUD! Honestly: I stopped reading there. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F

Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream (was: Re: There is no choice)

2014-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 03:41:53 schrieb lee: Andrew M.A. Cater amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk writes: Jessie freezes no later than November 5th 2014. Allow folk who are trying

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 03:41:53 schrieb lee: Andrew M.A. Cater amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk writes: Jessie freezes no later than November 5th 2014. Allow folk who are trying to work on the distribution to work on it and not to have to intervene in this sort of discussion, please.

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 21. September 2014, 08:59:16 schrieb Miles Fidelman: Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2014 21 Sep 06:52 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: The issue of the day (week) on debian-devel seems to be systemd-shim -- which kind of has to work for anyone to use an alternate init system; but seems

Re: Again skype 4.2 does not connect - new workaround

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 14:20:59 schrieb Hans: Hi folks, Hi Hans, Microsoft again is working against us. They have fixed the version patch. But don't hesitate: Here is a workaround I figured out. I can still connect. With the same version patches 4.2 skype as before. Maybe was

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 22:42:52 schrieb Bret Busby: On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2014 08:00:16 Bret Busby wrote: On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2014 07:32:54 Bret Busby wrote: It

Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 17:41:54 schrieb Hans: As in the other thread again, it still works here. With version patched 4.2. At least I can see online state of buddies after login in and it does log in. Ciao, Did you real disconnect or just close the application? Try to

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion?

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 19:19:07 schrieb Hans: I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as a router and the connection would be between clients directly. A solution that is *fully* and *completely* under *my* control and *will work as is* until *I*

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 21:14:08 schrieb Reco: Hi. Hi Reco, On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:59:56 +0200 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as a router and the connection would be between clients directly

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 20:11:44 schrieb Brian: On Sat 20 Sep 2014 at 20:52:35 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 21:14:08 schrieb Reco: http://tox.im Free software, decentralized, should do most of the things you expect from IM. Not in Debian

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 19:13:43 schrieb Hans: Hmmm, I see. I just started the application with auto login and that did still work. But when I logoff from within the application I cannot login again. There is lots of binary data in ~/.Skype. Yes, but you can relogin

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2014, 17:16:57 schrieb T.J. Duchene: I'm asking this on the user list not because I am trying to incite yet another debate over the merits of Systemd, but because I am assuming that the user list probably has the best chance of reaching out to the most people to get

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2014, 11:02:11 schrieb Brian: On Thu 18 Sep 2014 at 11:27:32 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: The following packages will be REMOVED: Install systemd-shim first. It was installed as I ran the apt commend and it still is, cause if systemd doesn´t boot I like to say

But there is a choice to not use systemd (war: Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community)

2014-09-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 16. September 2014, 08:46:36 schrieb Charlie: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 23:48:02 +0200 Martin Steigerwald sent: I have mixed thoughts and feelings about systemd… but on the other hand I think discussing this further here… is… a waste of time – as it won´t change anything. I'm

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 15. September 2014, 21:55:29 schrieb Joe: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:45 +0200 Bartosz Olender bartek.olen...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 15.09.2014 19:39, Joe pisze: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM,

Re: skype error

2014-09-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 6. September 2014, 19:17:52 schrieb Hans: What can be done with this? You can try this little hack on the older linux version skype-4.2.: - Install the 4.2 package. - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype - search for 4.2.0.11 and change this to 4.3.0.37 - save

Re: Got skype 4.2 to connect again

2014-08-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2014, 18:40:30 schrieb Hans: Hi folks, Hi Hans! I managed to get an older version of skype (the multiarch debian package) getting connected to skype. As you might have noticed, the new version is pulseaudio needed /what a crap!) and the older version (4.2) inhibits to

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2014, 16:59:45 schrieb Haines Brown: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:03:44PM +0100, Michael Jones wrote: New version socks, no audio due to the removal of alsa support I have similar problem, no audio with new version. So let me ask, did you install pulseaudio and doing

Re: systemd fails to poweroff - A stop job is running for Session 2 of user $USER

2014-08-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 12. August 2014, 17:48:10 schrieb Michael Biebl: Am 12.08.2014 17:16, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom: Right. Debian Sid. 'halt' does not poweroff with systemd. Well, yeah. halt is not supposed to power off your system. Interestingly in the last ten years I have used halt exactly to

Re: KMail send function defaulting.

2014-08-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 3. August 2014, 23:59:15 schrieb Weaver: Greetings all, I'm running SID, and lately there have been a number of KDE updates. I find, after last night's updates that KMail's send function doesn't work anymore. The message I'm getting from the pop-up is: 'Failed to get D-Bus

Re: /root is full

2014-07-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Haines, Am Dienstag, 29. Juli 2014, 09:22:02 schrieb Haines Brown: This is such a classic problem that I hesitate to raise the question. The df below shows that the usual suspects for root partition being full are broken out. The / partition is 500 Mb. In the past I have only used about 50

Re: /root is full

2014-07-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
No need to CC me. I am subscribed Am Dienstag, 29. Juli 2014, 14:16:02 schrieb Haines Brown: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 05:08:01PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: […] I suggest something like merkaba:~ du -d 1 -hx / | sort -rh | head -10 20G / 16G /usr 2,7G/var 1,2G

Re: Is xhost +si:localuser:root safe?

2014-07-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2014, 17:48:24 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: To be able to save/restore the XKB keymap in a /etc/pm/sleep.d script (as a workaround for Debian bug 633849), xkbcomp needs to have access to the display. The simplest solution I've found is a xhost +si:localuser:root in my

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-07-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 07:30:40 schrieb Erwan David: systemd-shim is no more an option in testing. the whole systemd with all its bugs (very low shutdown, no suport for policy-rc.d, etc..) is forced to users. It was said that we would have a choice. Were is the choice ? Were is

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 08:16:57 schrieb Miles Fidelman: Erwan David wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:36:30PM CEST, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org said: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 03:09:40PM +0200, Erwan David wrote: Problem is where do we get the knowledge to repair mannually ? I do

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 20. Juli 2014, 11:00:15 schrieb David Baron: How safe are these on new 64bit system (dist-upgraded to Sid)? Which do you mean by these? -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello! Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 12:10:44 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: Ok, I already fail at the first step: call crm114 from Postfix so that it uses user-specific spam/ham CSS files. My web search suggests nobody has ever done

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:45:55PM CEST, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de said: Hello! Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 12:10:44 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: Ok, I

Re: Copy machine?

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:45:13 schrieb Chris: Dear All, Hi Chris, is it possible to rsync a virtual machine to a physical machine? I've tried this, but only a third of all kernel modules were loaded, especially the network card driver was missing. For the sake of completeness: this

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:03:20 schrieb Erwan David: Le 18/07/2014 14:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:45:55PM CEST, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de said: Hello! Am Freitag, 18. Juli

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:03:20 schrieb Erwan David: Le 18/07/2014 14:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:45:55PM CEST, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de said: Hello! Am Freitag, 18. Juli

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:19:21 schrieb The Wanderer: On 07/18/2014 12:56 PM, Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:10:58 +0200 Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org napísal: That's quite afalse this... count every package which depends direectly or indirectly on systemd, often

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:19:21 schrieb The Wanderer: On 07/18/2014 12:56 PM, Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:10:58 +0200 Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org napísal: That's quite afalse this... count every package which depends direectly or indirectly on systemd, often

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 20:26:57 schrieb Erwan David: Le 18/07/2014 19:56, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:03:20 schrieb Erwan David: Le 18/07/2014 14:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: On Fri, Jul 18

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 21:23:20 schrieb Erwan David: This does not seem to scale well with different spam/ham token set per user. Huh? Just copy the CRM114 folder to another home and empty the spam/ham token files? In my setup there are no home dir, no users on server. spam

Re: install kate (4.13.1 , testing) in debian stable

2014-06-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2014, 18:54:50 schrieb sppmg: Hi all I want install kate 4.13.1 in debian stable, but the kde is 4.8 in debian stable . I followed kate official tutorial (http://kate-editor.org/get-it/) ,and get source by git and apt-get source. but I always get 4.8 version kate

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 10:11:00 schrieb Chris Bannister: On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 03:33:43PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: For the record I am using systemd without any issues, but then I am doing so on desktop systems. I just dislike the increasingly monolithic architecture of systemd.

Re: apt-get update: unnecessary use of disk space

2014-06-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 05:59:20 schrieb Chris Bannister: Hi, Hi Chris, Does this seem necessary? root@tal:~# apt-get clean root@tal:~# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda536G 34G 266M 100% / [...] root@tal:~# apt-get update Hit

Re: Cron 101: Cron message /bin/sh: root: command not found

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 10:37:31 schrieb Ron Leach: List good morning, Hi Ron, I do regret asking such a basic question about cron, but I cannot seem to get rid of what I think is a mis-configured entry, somewhere. We have a server running Lenny (still), its role is solely to provide a

Re: Cron 101: Cron message /bin/sh: root: command not found

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 11:53:30 schrieb Ron Leach: On 11/05/2014 10:48, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Look into - /etc/cron.d - crontab -l It would not make much sense, but maybe someone added a call to /etc/cron.hourly there. server4:/# crontab -l # /etc/crontab: system-wide

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