Re: OT: End the Phone-Based Childhood Now

On 2024-03-15 22:58, Marco Moock wrote: Am 15.03.2024 um 18:16:50 Uhr schrieb Jeffrey Walton: Fascinating reading here: . What the hell? I already get a ton of legitimate

Re: Letting Windows go: scanning

On 2023-09-20 10:17, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: When I used to use HP MFD's I used to have to connect to it with USB to get scanning. I do not know if network scanning is now supported or not. Scanning directly to a computer, using drivers installed on that computer, is a nightmare - even

Re: Gradle version in bookworm

On 2023-08-26 03:18, Mark Fletcher wrote: continue using it -- but since I can get it onto my machine with zero effort via Intellij I am a Jetbrains subscriber who uses many of their IDEs, including IntelliJ, and if that's the way you want to go, I'm certainly not going to tell you not to.

Re: Bookworm VPS image and cron

On 2023-08-25 08:38, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 03:02:55PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote: So, there you go... it was a problem with DO's Bookworm image. I'm assuming the omission wasn't intentional and if that is, in fact, the case, it will get fixed quickly. It sounds

Re: Bookworm VPS image and cron

On 2023-08-05 23:06, Geert Stappers wrote: > Or you could ask your VPS provider why they aren't providing > "important" packages in their default image. This is the first time it's happened. Of the Linux images I've used there, Ubuntu 14.04, 16.04, 18.04, 20.04, 22.04, and Debian bullseye

Re: Bookworm - cron?

On 2023-08-05 13:16, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote: Part of my standard procedure for setting up new VMs involves editing root's crontab. But cron isn't installed. Seems unlikely. There are system cron jobs that are not yet converted

Re: Bookworm - cron?

On 2023-08-05 13:23, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 5 Aug 2023 22:13 +0200, from johndoe65...@mail.com (john doe): But cron isn't installed. I just install a new Bookworm VM and 'cron' is present! :) Ditto. That must be some customization your VPS provider has made, if the installation didn't

Re: Gradle version in bookworm

On 2023-08-05 12:12, Anders Andersson wrote: Impossible, fake news. It's Java. When I still coded C and assembly in the nineties everyone told me that Java would solve the issue of portability forever. Write once, run anywhere! Just run it, no worries! Ahhh... I don't know what

Re: Gradle version in bookworm

On 2023-08-05 09:50, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: However, it seems like there are rather serious blocking issues that have halted progress. When I need Gradle (whether on Mac, Linux or Windows), I just download the latest version, put it somewhere and use it. I do the same thing with Java

Bookworm - cron?

Crazy question: My VPS provider just started offering bookworm images. So when I set up a new server yesterday, I installed bookworm. Part of my standard procedure for setting up new VMs involves editing root's crontab. But cron isn't installed. What am I expected to use instead? (I

Re: [OT] connect to Amazon AWS service

On 2023-07-28 08:46, Haines Brown wrote: Sorry for a quetion not directly related to Debian, but where else to turn? I've used an on line validation servce to which I submit code. It terminated with the note that it has now become a web service on the Amazon EC2 Web Service. I registered for

Re: When to sudo apt clean?

On 2023-06-27 10:54, David Wright wrote: On Fri 23 Jun 2023 at 15:51:31 (-0700), Steve Sobol wrote: On 2023-06-23 15:26, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Steve Sobol wrote: > > > > In general people don't want to dist-upgrade automatically. > > > > Seconded. > > I'm no

Re: php7.4 on bookworm

On 2023-06-26 00:52, Markus Schönhaber wrote: I don't know if that somehow qualifies as "best practice" but Ondřej Surý packages different PHP versions for Debian and Ubuntu one can install side-by-side: https://sury.org/ I can vouch for the quality of the Sury packages. I've used them for

Re: When to sudo apt clean?

On 2023-06-23 21:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 05:29:22PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote: [...] I'd much rather err on the side of extreme caution. If something goes bump, I'm screwed. To be fair, autoremove can improve safety: when it removes old kernel versions filling

Re: When to sudo apt clean?

On 2023-06-23 16:54, Emanuel Berg wrote: Ah, don't worry, it is safe, I've done it a lot. I don't doubt that it is quite safe, most of the time. But I run my servers on Ubuntu and Debian. (Mostly Ubuntu right now; slowly migrating to Debian.) I get paid for hosting, as well as work I do

Re: When to sudo apt clean?

On 2023-06-23 15:26, Emanuel Berg wrote: Steve Sobol wrote: In general people don't want to dist-upgrade automatically. Seconded. I'm not following, when these functions are invoked, be it scheduled by some other software or by the user from the shell, they are intended to do their work

Re: When to sudo apt clean?

On 2023-06-23 14:14, Dan Ritter wrote: It seems unlikely to me that you want to do an autoremove before you have done an upgrade. I'd not say unwise. Useless, pointless, perhaps; but it doesn't hurt anything. autoremove removes packages that were installed as dependencies of other

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

On 2023-04-02 14:57, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: I'll admit that when I first saw perl, I thought it was horrific and I swore to continue using awk and C and ... anything but perl. But then one day $job required me to learn perl so I did and have been a convert ever since. Perl

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

On 2023-04-02 02:24, Emanuel Berg wrote: If you are looking for a career, Python is much bigger but there is a lot of shell scripts and for that matter a little bit of Perl don't harm, absolutely mot. I'm seeing scripts written in Python far more often than Perl these days, but it is