RE: new to list, new to debian, new to linux

2009-05-22 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 22 May 2009 06:14:59 -0400, George posted: You have to install the sudo package to be able to use sudo. If you want to install sudo you will first need to open a terminal and type: $ su $enter password # aptitude update - let it do it’s thing and it will tell you if

Re: how to fix where grub boots from

2009-05-18 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 18 May 2009 09:01:34 +0200, Klistvud posted: [...] The first thing I'd try is make the SATA drive bootable (or active) and clearing the active/bootable flag from the ATA drive. This is easiest done by means of a partition editor. But first, check your boot sequence in the BIOS: SATA

Re: Grub stage1 not found then Error 2 on reboot

2009-05-18 Thread Thorny
On Sun, 17 May 2009 14:25:20 +, Andrew Malcolmson posted: I had a working Lenny install which I somehow hosed while experimenting with Grub. On boot, the message displays 'Grub loading stage 1.5' then 'Error 2'. It might be easier to speculate if you'd tell exactly what you did while

Re: bug #350639

2009-05-18 Thread Thorny
On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:31:05 -0700, Freddy Freeloader posted: [...] I have to ask why. Why is this left up every user of testing to fix this problem themselves when the fix is so simple? [...] One possible answer to this question would be that users of testing are supposed to be able to

Re: network configuration for Eth0

2009-05-02 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 02 May 2009 06:15:04 -0400, Paul Cartwright posted: [...] what I want is a rule tht allows http for my web page to port forward from my router to my desktop, and also allow me to ssh into my desktop from my laptops. If I understand correctly what you asking: You will need to option

Re: network configuration for Eth0

2009-05-01 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 01 May 2009 05:36:06 -0400, Paul Cartwright posted: I seemed to have a problem with my static setup of eth0 that stopped my debian lenny setup from coming up correctly. This doesn't tell us anything that we could use to troubleshoot. Do you mean the system doesn't come up or just

Re: Installing xfce 4.6 on Lenny

2009-04-30 Thread Thorny
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:48:48 -0400, Rob McBroom posted: On 2009-Apr-29, at 2:40 AM, Magnus Pedersen wrote: I wouldn't mix stable and testing, get XFCE from backports if it is available or run testing. Someone on another list once told me: As long as you can install the package

Re: debian and ubuntu

2009-04-27 Thread Thorny
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:17:37 -0500, Mark Allums posted: [...] :) ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: debian and ubuntu

2009-04-26 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:40:47 -0500, Mark Allums posted: paragasu wrote: ubuntu == debian testing, if you think debian outdated, try debian unstable. ubuntu = debian unstable Ubuntu=(a snapshot of Debian unstable at the time)!=Debian unstable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: livecd accessibility

2009-04-24 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:51:38 -0700, Don Raikes posted: Hi all: Sorry for the cross-posting, but I wasn't sure which list would be better for this question. Does the current i386 livecd have any accessibility support enabled in it? Is either orca, or brltty installed and/or running on

Re: regarding upgrade

2009-04-24 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:31:47 -0400, machiner posted: Reply to: edua...@kalinowski.com.br Original Message Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:21:51 -0300 RE: Re: regarding upgrade [See Original Message Below] They do reappear after a grub update. Personally, I usually remove an unused kernel

Re: problems installing lenny on dell laptop

2009-04-21 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:48:55 -0700, Don Raikes posted: Hi all, I am a blind user of lenny. I installed lenny using my braille display without a problem onto my gateway desktop system. However, when I boot the lenny dvd or cd on my dell latitude d600 laptop, it is not recognizing the usb

Re: iptables - computer hangs

2009-04-20 Thread Thorny
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:36:59 +0200, Erik Xavior posted: [...] 1) First I removed the network-manager, to be sure, it doesn't do anything: apt-get remove --purge -y network-manager-gnome network-manager-openvpn-gnome network-manager-pptp-gnome network-manager-vpnc-gnome This looks to me

Re: Installing Sid

2009-04-20 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:59:04 +0100, Lisi Reisz posted: I am planning to install Sid on a test machine. I may set up a dual or triple boot with other distros I want to look at, so being able to control the partitions is important. Googling, and searching the Debian site, seem to suggest

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:22:59 +0200, Dirk posted: Randy Kramer wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote: some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... Just for clarification, is this in Debian stable or test?

Re: etch to lenny upgrade - X apps no longer see keystrokes?

2009-04-10 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:44:42 +1000, Graham Williams posted: Received Thu 09 Apr 2009 9:12pm +1000 from Thorny: On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:10:41 +1000, Graham Williams posted: Have just upgraded a fairly vanilla etch install on a Dell Precision 690 (AMD64) with an nvidia graphics chip. All

Re: Disabling RSA host key check temporarily

2009-04-10 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:02:23 +0300, Dotan Cohen posted: Thank you, Ken, I am aware of that list and subscribe to it. That list is great for Microsoft bashing, discussing animal-themed backgrounds twice a year, and bikesheding. Technical issues are understood by a overwhelmed and outvoiced

Re: etch to lenny upgrade - X apps no longer see keystrokes?

2009-04-09 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:10:41 +1000, Graham Williams posted: Have just upgraded a fairly vanilla etch install on a Dell Precision 690 (AMD64) with an nvidia graphics chip. All seemed to proceed well, but on reboot and starting up GDM, most key presses result in the screen resolution changing -

Re: Disk drive recovery help

2009-04-09 Thread Thorny
On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:50:37 -0700, tony mollica posted: Thorny wrote: On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:38:26 -0700, tony mollica posted: Thorny wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:29:16 -0700, tony mollica posted: Hello. Need a little help with a disk drive. Until today, my external storage drive

Re: Adding a user

2009-04-08 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:15:07 -0400, Frank McCormick posted: Running Squeeze - tried to add a user today using the graphical front end under Gksudo ...everything except properties was grayed out. Graphical front end to what, what graphical front end? KDE? Gnome? Other? I have implemented

Re: Disk drive recovery help

2009-04-08 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:29:16 -0700, tony mollica posted: Hello. Need a little help with a disk drive. Until today, my external storage drive was working fine using Debian 4.0 (latest updates) and ext2 file system. It's a 180Gig drive divided into 3 partitions, 1 primary and 2 logical,

Re: new problem - networking is strange

2009-04-08 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:30:08 -0400, Miles Fidelman posted: Thorny wrote: On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:36:45 -0400, Miles Fidelman posted: [...] Yeah, but it's a feature that's not well publicized and causes confusing behavior. Standard behavior, for years, has been to expect eth0

Re: Bug#519028: How do the pros keep up with the latest kernel?

2009-04-08 Thread Thorny
On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:52:57 +0800, jidanni posted: How do the pros keep up with the latest kernel? Depending on linux-image-686 isn't working these days. (it depends on a package no longer available) $ cat sources.list deb http://ftp.tw.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free

Re: Disabling RSA host key check temporarily

2009-04-08 Thread Thorny
On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:18:58 +0300, Dotan Cohen posted: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ Thank you, Ken, I am aware of that list and subscribe to it. That list is great for Microsoft bashing, discussing animal-themed backgrounds twice a year, and bikesheding. Technical issues are understood by a

Re: debian testing

2009-04-08 Thread Thorny
On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:50:03 -0400, Ken Heard posted: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thorny wrote: snip Close to release time, Debian testing does become very stable and easy to use, after a new stable release, testing becomes more volatile and doesn't have as good

Re: Disk drive recovery help

2009-04-08 Thread Thorny
On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:38:26 -0700, tony mollica posted: Thorny wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:29:16 -0700, tony mollica posted: Hello. Need a little help with a disk drive. Until today, my external storage drive was working fine using Debian 4.0 (latest updates) and ext2 file system

Re: debian testing

2009-04-07 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:56:41 +1000, Daniel Dalton posted: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 12:02:50PM +0200, Cassiel wrote: Another thing is if more people would submit bugs. Really help the maintainers. Help the project and community. That's a valid point. Thanks to everyone that

Re: Bug#519028: How do the pros keep up with the latest kernel?

2009-04-07 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:40:19 +0800, jidanni posted: How do the pros keep up with the latest kernel? Depending on linux-image-686 isn't working these days. # aptitude -F %p search ?obsolete | xargs -n 1 echo aptitude why|sh -x + aptitude why linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 i linux-image-686

Re: new problem - networking is strange

2009-04-07 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:36:45 -0400, Miles Fidelman posted: [...] Yeah, but it's a feature that's not well publicized and causes confusing behavior. Standard behavior, for years, has been to expect eth0 to be assigned to a machine's primary network interface. udev's behavior is more than a

Re: new problem - networking is strange

2009-04-06 Thread Thorny
Who'd have thunk that two identical chassis aren't quite identical. Sigh The chassis are the same but each NIC has a unique MAC address, that's the purpose of MAC addressing. That was the source of the problem you had. Of course the MAC of a NIC can be spoofed, but that is another

Re: updating with aptitude

2009-04-06 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:30:43 +0530, Abhishek Amberkar[ अभिषेक] posted: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:02 PM, orange orang...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that apt(itude) has stopped updating my (testing) Debian system. I press 'u', and then 'U' but nothing is marked for update (and it has been like

Re: updating with aptitude

2009-04-06 Thread Thorny
[...] deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib deb ftp://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ lenny contrib main See the way my lines wrapped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Drives can't be mounted as a normal user

2009-04-04 Thread Thorny
[...] I know how to use and edit the /etc/fstab file to mount the drives after each boot. OK, I will assume you are correct with this statement. However, that's not what I'm looking at. Perhaps it should be where you are looking. I'm looking to be able to use my other partitions just like

Re: HELP!!! trying to recover crashed system

2009-04-04 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:21:27 -0400, Miles Fidelman posted: Here it is, Friday, and my birthday to boot, with one fire on my desk already, when I discover that a critical server has crashed The server is running Sarge (I know, I was just about to upgrade, but if it ain't broke, why fix

Re: /etc/init.d/networking restart does not change IP address. I have to reboot. Help.

2009-04-04 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:58:50 +0530, Foss User posted: Trying to change the IP address in /etc/network/interfaces and then /etc/init.d/networking restart does not really change my IP. I am having to do a reboot to really change the IP. Could someone please help me in understanding why

Re: gpg

2009-04-03 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:41:16 +1100, Daniel Dalton posted: Hi, Thanks for the gpg help, it's working well now. One question I still have, am I somehow meant to somehow get people to sign my signature if so, how does this work? Daniel. To give you a simple answer, use a search engine

Re: Installing on a Compact Flash card.

2009-04-03 Thread Thorny
[...] So now I am a bit confused. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Can any one advice me on what to try next? Should I try to reinstall with a /boot partition and a / partition? Is there something I need to do for the CF card? Did you write a GRUB MBR to the drive, Chris? -- To

Re: .Xresources problem

2009-04-02 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:54:57 +0300, Kybernetiker posted: I have Debian Lenny basic system with X Window, Ice WM, and xdm installed. When I try to configure Xterm, X.org seems to ignore the ~/.Xresources file. The command xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources doesn't do any good. I also tried

Re: question about grub-install

2009-04-02 Thread Thorny
[...] And why does it say install GRUB images under the directory ...? Isn't it installing something in the MBR? Not is a directory? Or do I *really* misunderstand what grub-install does? What is a GRUB image? Or am I parsing this incorrectly? In the documentation that you are studying,

Re: firmware-linux

2009-04-02 Thread Thorny
[...] Testing is pretty darn manageable, even for those of us who aren't compiling our own kernels. No offence meant, but you might want to recalibrate your ideas about the expertise required to run it. I hear your opinion, however, from my experience with questions that have been asked on

Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:59:43 -0700, Vwaju posted: For months, I have been booting Debian 3.1 every day and experimenting with networking tools. [...] I'd suggest you consider upgrading because Sarge has not been receiving security updates since last March. Of course, it might not matter to

Re: firmware-linux

2009-04-01 Thread Thorny
[...] What I want to know is what kinds of problems I might experience when I move to a 'free' kernel? Are these problems easily discoverable when I switch? I'm most concerned about two possibilities - my system becomes inoperable due to some dependency on binary firmware; or the absence of

Re: pinning not working

2009-04-01 Thread Thorny
[...] t60[~]$ cat /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release a=lenny Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=sid Pin-Priority: 300 Package: * Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 101 [...] As Osamu pointed out you are using codenames. However I thought they were going

Re: translator tool

2009-04-01 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:01:57 -0700, consultores1 posted: I am in need of a translator tool, because i have to write in different languages; something that writing a word, it translates it to other different languages at once. This kind of word-for-word translation is not always going to

Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted: I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync to do backups locally between hosts on the same LAN. But I don't know what to do to use

Re: Konqueror: select all doesn't work in the location bar

2009-03-26 Thread Thorny
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:49:37 -0400, Randy Kramer posted: [...] I reported this as a bug, and got back a works for me response from someone using 3.5.9 on Debian Squeeze. Not sure if confirmation is what you want, for me in Konq 3.5.9 on Lenny, select all works properly. They said their

Re: Can't ping to other ip addesss

2009-03-26 Thread Thorny
Please don't top post. I have rewritten this to conform to suggested list standard and replied at bottom. Kousik Maiti: In my system there are two ethernet card. I can't ping to other machine via eth0 but eth1 is working fine. My ethernat controller is Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation

Re: aspell gets remove on OOo removal, why?

2009-03-26 Thread Thorny
[...] I wonder, why does aspell get removed here. Because it is marked as automatically installed. When there are (or will be) no more packages that depend on automatically installed packages, the automatically installed packages are automatically removed. And, how do I prevent aspell from

Re: flakey internet access through network

2009-03-25 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:13:41 -0700, Thorny posted: [...] What you describe doesn't like any of your machines are forgetting your IP address. But you could check that with the command ipconfig eth2 (since you mentioned eth2 as the interface involved) before issuing the dhclient command

Re: Possible bug in packaging

2009-03-24 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:30:50 +0530, Amey Parulekar posted: [...] Now, cyphesis doesn't build unless it finds an installed copy of mercator, so this is not a problem with cyphesis. The fact that it is a runtime error suggests that it has something to do with the directory structure that debian

Re: help - Browsing network Issue after installing SAMBA?

2009-03-24 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:32:49 -0700, dbpbandit posted: I've been experimenting with several distributions of Linux over the past few months and I finally decided on Debian for many reasons. Currently I have it running on a couple of laptops and an old PC. The PC has two HDD, one has Debian

Re: iceape-browser disappear of debian

2009-03-24 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:00:30 +0100, Gerard Robin posted: Hello, iceape is no more part of debian, I would like to know if is it possible to install the package seamonkey of ubuntu in sid ? It was dropped from Debian because no one stepped up to act as maintainer, you may be able to do your

Re: Iceweasel: Can't find helper application

2009-03-24 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:19:53 +1030, Matthew Smith posted: Hi Folks Don't know if this is a Debian issue or a Firefox issue - having only just switched from Gentoo+FF2 to Debian+FF3/Iceweasel. * Try to follow a link to a PDF document. * Get a message that the helper application (xpdf)

Re: flakey internet access through network

2009-03-24 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:11:53 -0700, postid posted: I'm working on our school's computer system and discovering that the internet access is really a pain. I can log on to the wireless network and get a strong signal, but internet access comes and goes. I just discovered that if I try to do a

Re: testing microphone - how?

2009-03-24 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:26:33 +, Lisi Reisz posted: I am trying to test a microphone by some method other than ringing the same poor person repeatedly by VOIP. I have tried to run record applications, but cannot seem to get the applications going (so far Audacity and KRec). Hi Lisi,

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-22 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:59:33 -0400, Celejar posted: [...edit just to save bandwidth] But this equivalence between insecure systems and those likely to fall victim to an accidental rm -rf / breaks down for the above case, since accidents become much less likely, but a virus can still do

Re: new hidden files

2009-03-22 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:19:23 -0400, Rick Pasotto posted: This morning rkhunter found three new hidden files: Warning: Hidden directory found: /etc/.java Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.udev Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.initramfs Is this anything to worry about? You can

Re: SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2

2009-03-22 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:50:32 -0400, Stefan Monnier posted: Discussing this has inspired me to put another line on my hobby list, I will eventually drag out an old P1 100MHz I have and try loading Lenny on it. Or, maybe I shouldn't thank you for that, it's not like I don't already have enough

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-21 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:09:13 +, Avi Greenbury posted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus#Threats Good grief, since when has wikipedia become the ultimate resource. Do you notice how many of the references are to anti-virus labs, who have a vested interest in selling software?

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-21 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:57:50 +0800, 明覺 posted: you are right, it should not be a viruses, maybe it's because my harddisk is broken, how to check my harddisk? now I have installed a new system on it and it is working fine now, but I'm afraid it will be broken suddenly again after a few days,

Re: Technical Inquiry

2009-03-21 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:17:28 -0700, hadi motamedi posted: Dear All Can you please do me favor and provide me with the answer for the following case at hand : We have one HP t5725 server with Debian Linux 3.1 installed but the operator is getting the following message on the console port when

Re: SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2

2009-03-21 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:30:07 -0600, Robert Hodgins posted: On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 14:13 -0600, Robert Hodgins wrote: Thank you to everyone who has offered suggestions. I'll keep fiddling around with this computer. If something works, I'll let you know. Turns out the problem was likely

Re: Technical Inquiry

2009-03-21 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:30:35 +, Lisi Reisz posted: On Saturday 21 March 2009 10:21:24 Thorny wrote: If I remember correctly, Sarge security support ends at the end of March, this year. They announced that it had ended last year. As I understand it, they took the repositories down

Re: Lenny + Dell PE 2970

2009-03-20 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:58:32 -0500, M. Lewis posted: I'm trying to install Lenny on a Dell Power Edge 2970 with little success. The problem I'm running into is installing grub. My .iso images check with md5sum correctly. With three different DVDs, I get the error: Unable to install grub

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-20 Thread Thorny
[T] A simple answer is that Linux virus exist as a proof-of-concept, there aren't any in the wild. If you think about it, there isn't a mechanism for propagation. You don't run as root do you? You can find out lots more about the concept with your favourite search engine. [C] While they

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-20 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:37:56 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. posted: While they have been seen in the wild, ... Please cite examples and/or documentation so I may learn. I know from your other posts that you give good advice but I am not willing to accept this statement on that basis. -- To

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread Thorny
It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. then i restarted my machine, it ccould not shutdown for it said it's a readonly file system. then i pressed reset to force it restart, then it stopped at grup

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread Thorny
[...] If it's not a virus, why my computer suddenly become broken, I do not understand, i guess it should be a virus. A simple answer is that Linux virus exist as a proof-of-concept, there aren't any in the wild. If you think about it, there isn't a mechanism for propagation. You don't run as

Re: reboot/shutdown hangs at 'acpid:exiting'

2009-03-18 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:17:29 -0400, Michael Yang wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Thorny thorntreeh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:39:05 -0400, Michael Yang wrote: After recent upgrade, my system becomes kind of mess up. My story is that I did a apt-get upgrade

Re: reboot/shutdown hangs at 'acpid:exiting'

2009-03-18 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:17:29 -0400, Michael Yang wrote: [...] That's when I found the problem of acpid. Then I went back to .24 kernel, the problem still exists. That's why I thought if it could be problems related to lenny dist. Naturally, after sending the last post I did have another idea.

Re: Problem with upgrading libc6

2009-03-17 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:42:54 -0700, NFN Smith wrote: [...] Following this downgrade, libc6 (and related dependencies) are all still at etch versions. This from Chapter 4 of the Lenny release notes may be of interest to you, especially the part at the bottom since you are using Aptitude.

Re: reboot/shutdown hangs at 'acpid:exiting'

2009-03-17 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:39:05 -0400, Michael Yang wrote: After recent upgrade, my system becomes kind of mess up. My story is that I did a apt-get upgrade of some packages to squeeze/sid by accident(I didn't change the 'testing' in my source.list). So I downgrade most of packages back to

Re: debian/lenny: keyboard doesn't work after software upgrade

2009-03-16 Thread Thorny
thanks. I post message in my mail client that puts quotes below reply. It would also be a good idea to post in text only for this list. I've been happily using 2.6.24 kernel without meeting much problems. Recently just out of curiosity I did a upgrade (not dist-upgrade yet). Is there

Re: iomega portable hard drive

2009-03-16 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:11:55 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hello! is it possible to put to work a 120 GB Iomega Portable Hard Drive (usb powered) under Lenny? I own one myself, but I can't mount it. I googled a bit too, but without success besides the fact that there is no direct linux

Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2

2009-03-15 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:50:07 -0600, Robert Hodgins wrote: As various modules were being loaded in, I noticed some had 2.6.28-1-486 as a part of their name. I assume if these were being loaded, then the correct kernel was selected? It is my understand that the installer will choose the correct

Re: debian/lenny: keyboard doesn't work after software upgrade

2009-03-15 Thread Thorny
I have reordered your post to be in chronological order, suggestion below. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Michael Yang michael@gmail.comwrote: I have a Debian/Lenny 2.6.24 installed on my laptop (D630). I did a software upgrade just now (apt-get upgrade) and the keyboard doesn't

Re: libc6 upgrade from debian 3.1 to 5.0

2009-03-15 Thread Thorny
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:45:02 +0800, linux china wrote: From your subject line 3.1 to 5.0. I'm fairly sure the upgrade from Sarge to Lenny is not supported. For one thing, the upgrade from Sarge to Etch was problematic for many people, especially those who didn't read the release notes before

Re: Lenovo laptop - Type Control D to Continue

2009-03-14 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:47:13 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Jimmy Johnson wrote: Hey Guy's I have Lenovo laptop, new Lenny install and I'm having to type control+d to continue boot, I looked at dmesg and I can't make what the problem is, so I post and maybe someone can figure the problem. [...]

Re: Lenovo laptop - Type Control D to Continue

2009-03-13 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:17:25 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Hey Guy's I have Lenovo laptop, new Lenny install and I'm having to type control+d to continue boot, I looked at dmesg and I can't make what the problem is, so I post and maybe someone can figure the problem. If more info is needed

Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2

2009-03-13 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:47:11 -0600, Robert Hodgins wrote: [...] Right after selecting Install, the installer printed the screen (Photo 2) [...] ACPI on a P1 75MHz class machine? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Aptitude tries to replace backport kernel with older version

2009-03-11 Thread Thorny
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:11:20 +1100, Robert S wrote: I have replaced the stock etch kernel with 2.6.26-bpo.1-686 by adding backports to my sources.list and the following to /etc/apt/preferences: Package: linux-image-2.6-486 Pin relase a=etch-backports Pin-Priority: 999 If I run aptitude

Re: Advice about ext3, please

2009-03-11 Thread Thorny
Steven, As Aneurin has pointed out, you seem to have responded to the wrong thread, that doesn't relieve the confusion for those of us who use a list reader which threads correctly. And that is a part of what you are complaining about. I expect that you've reacted emotionally, and that is human

Re: Advice about ext3, please

2009-03-09 Thread Thorny
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:31:15 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: That is a pretty persuasive argument. I can see the plug being pulled by accident fairly often in the long run. ;-) Suggest you mount that drive with the sync option. Might make it a little less likely that you'll pull the plug while

Re: Mozilla suite missing from Debian 5

2009-03-08 Thread Thorny
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:57:42 +0900, Bret Busby wrote: Well, after having been advised on the list, to upgrade to Debian 5, from Debian 4, I have done it, on my laptop, to trial Debian 5. As Lisi pointed out, I too didn't find an overwhelming number of suggestions to do as you have chosen.

Re: Adding installed packages to menu

2009-03-06 Thread Thorny
[Lisi] The reason that there is currently a little bit of confusion on websites is that the shunt Squeeze - testing, Lenny - stable, Etch - old stable and Sarge - somewhere-off-the-cliff only happened less than 3 weeks ago on 14th February. The websites are being updated in roughly order of

Re: Adding installed packages to menu

2009-03-05 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:57:48 +0900, Bret Busby wrote: I had delayed upgrading to Debian 5.0, as people appear to still have problems with upgrading to Debian 5.0, so I thought that it would be better to wait until things had settled, with Debian 5.0, perhaps, when release 2 appears, or

Re: Adding installed packages to menu

2009-03-05 Thread Thorny
So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Being a fan of Adams myself, I gave a bit of thought to your sig lines. You may want to investigate Chapter 3 from the Debian FAQ: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html#s3.1

Re: Lowest ram system with X. Presario 5166.

2009-03-04 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:51:16 +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: From the Debian manual, a minimal install for X requires 512MB. Where did you find this? Can you provide a link so I can look at it? In the Debian Installation Guide I can find it as a recommenced amount but not as a required amount,

Re: Adding installed packages to menu

2009-03-03 Thread Thorny
Also, I had (apparently, completely wrongly) understood that, when installing a package with Synaptic, it was the role of Synaptic, as the package manager, to ensure that the package was added to the relevant menu, in the Applications menu hierarchy. As I mentioned previously, not every sys

Re: Debian Lenny Based SimplyMEPIS 8.0 is Released

2009-03-03 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:58:35 -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [...] I agree with what you say, but is not the case with Debian-Live it only covers amd64 and i386. Great for a desktop system Jimmy, however, Debian is for more than just desktop systems. You have stated a preference for live CDs and

Re: Adding installed packages to menu

2009-03-03 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:41:06 +0900, Bret Busby wrote: One major problem with Ubuntu, apart from the pseudo thingy, is the colour. I much prefer the blue colour of Debian (kind of like some people and cars; What kind of car do you drive? - A red one ; what kind of linux do I prefer? - A blue

Re: Adding installed packages to menu

2009-03-03 Thread Thorny
Yes; each workstation installation that we have, whilst it has more than one user account, is used by only one person at a time, and is primarily a single-user system (but, I really don't like the pseudo thingy that Ubuntu uses, rather than having a root account. I much prefer having a root

Re: Adding installed packages to menu

2009-03-02 Thread Thorny
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:26:33 +0900, Bret Busby wrote: Synaptic installs then loses packages; it downloads and installs a package and its dependencies, and then, when queried, it shows the package and its dependancies to be installed, but it does not add the packages to the menu, and, in the

Re: grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1. Check your device.map.

2009-03-01 Thread Thorny
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:28:33 +0100, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: I'm not really sure that partitions on modern pc has to be made bootable for grub to work Correct, GRUB doesn't care if a partition is marked as the active partition(bootable), that is something that matters to a DOS(Windows) MBR. To

Re: [OT I think] Which Distro?

2009-02-28 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:24:53 -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [...] Friendly, Sure, no problem! A piece of advice for you, don't let your ego get involved when posting, some call that wearing a flamesuit on the 'Net. What I did was give you my opinion of your actions, in the hope that the data might

Re: [OT I think] Which Distro?

2009-02-26 Thread Thorny
Jimmy Johnson wrote: Why do you flame me, maybe you think it's better to recommend Sidux or Ubuntu? G Johannes Wiedersich wrote: I didn't intend to flame you, I am sorry if I sounded like that. If you don't want a flame, please stop yours as well. I just gave my opinion, you gave yours. I

Re: creating and logging a daily cron job

2008-10-18 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:10:01 +0200, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: On Fri,17.Oct.08, 18:10:26, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: this doesn't seem to be true the job runs and produces output and root mail is (via /etc/aliases - thanks to Doug!) sent to me but yet I don't get any o/p from /etc/cron.daily

Re: OT: welcome back

2008-10-17 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:34:18 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: No such luck. I'd be concerned that the broadband modem would produce too much interference with my wife (remember my low-MHz thread). I know that a DSL filter causes problems. Of course, I don't know your wife, but around here