Re: Sarge Installer and DHCP

2004-03-29 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 29. März 2004 11:15 schrieb Krikket: > [...] > Googling hasn't been much use (finding Windows-related stuff...), Didn't you include "Linux" in the list of words to search for? > [...] Wolfgang

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 20:45 schrieb Micha Feigin: > [...] > > What about security? I'm online all the time my computer is on. Are the > > sarge versions of iptables and ssh stable enough to give me good > > security? If you have a non-Debian distribution, you may get quick > > security updat

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:40 schrieb Alexis Huxley: > > I'm asking myself what the impacts of this are? Will Debian lose a lot > > of users since the current stable release contains software which is > > somtimes terrible old? What are the reasons for sarge taking so long to > > become stable?

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 19:16 schrieb Colin Watson: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 06:13:19PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > [...] > > When is the installer expected to be ready? > > There will be a schedule posted to debian-devel-announce in the next > couple of days.

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. MÃrz 2004 19:07 schrieb Colin Watson: > [...] > > I fear that sarge is too unstable for my daily work, and I've heard really > > bad things about debian-installer. > > You should test it for yourself and send reports, please, rather than > going on really bad things you hear. I re

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 19:06 schrieb Colin Watson: > [...] > The release team is likely to remove unimportant packages with > release-critical bugs once the installer is ready. When is the installer expected to be ready? > [...] Wolfgang

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 19:04 schrieben Sie: > [...] > You don't really run workstations directly on the internet do you? I do. > You might consider getting yourself some kind of hardware based > firewall/NAT box. Either buy an appliance, of cobble together a PC for > ip-cop or similar. Isn'

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:32 schrieb Jody Grafals: > I think for the most part many running debian on the desktop are already > using sarge or sid, and I must say I am run several servers with woody, > I like it just the way it is, thank you very much. I enjoy the stability of woody also on the

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:25 schrieb Colin Watson: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:46:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > > I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of release-critical > > bugs and was shocked. The RCB diagramm seems to suggest that sarge will >

Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Hello, I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of release-critical bugs and was shocked. The RCB diagramm seems to suggest that sarge will hardly ever be released as stable. I'm asking myself what the impacts of this are? Will Debian lose a lot of users since the current stable re