Re: random number generator missing after upgrade

2023-08-14 Thread davidson
On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 Björn Persson wrote: David Wright wrote: On Mon 14 Aug 2023 at 11:26:13 (+0200), Björn Persson wrote: Other functions in the same source file create /dev/tpm0, and it looks like the random number generator should get registered together with the TPM. It's conditional on

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-14 Thread davidson
On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: On 14/8/23 03:36, davidson wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote: The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-14 Thread davidson
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 4:33 PM davidson wrote: [...] Somebody else posts a red-herring link, to a mailing list concerning the linux distro called Alpine Linux. [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/08/msg00355.html Then Greg points out

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-13 Thread davidson
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote: >> The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's >> threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find >> irrelevant to my

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread davidson
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 davidson wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: > [snip] >> Hello. >> >> Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the >> "unubscribe" thread? > > In alpine, I have a filter rule that

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread davidson
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: [snip] Hello. Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the "unubscribe" thread? In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages from my inbox to a dedicated folder. Here is a sample of what I see in alpine,

Re: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-11 Thread davidson
On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: On 11/8/23 14:49, Luna Jernberg wrote: Or one could unsubscribe using the web interface here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ "If all else fails, follow the instructions" https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#subunsub " Subscription /

Re: why dpms in bullseye fails?

2023-08-07 Thread davidson
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 hlyg wrote: > it used to work > > to make troubleshooting easy, i change to 30 from default 600 > > xset dpms 30 30 30 > > xset q > > ... > > Screen Saver: >   prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes >   timeout:  0    cycle:  600 > > ... > > DPMS (Energy Star): >  

Re: bookworm isn't as stable as buster

2023-06-17 Thread davidson
On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 hlyg wrote: On 6/17/23 22:47, Marko Ranđelović wrote: Did you installed it or tried the live system? What are your hardware components? i install bookworm for amd64, not from live CD i often run buster for i386 for days, no problem Try -debug option to increase

Re: Hibernate in bookworm

2023-04-22 Thread davidson
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 Rainer Dorsch wrote: Hi, I just tried to hibernate a system which I upgraded from bullseye to bookworm and it resumed and never reached the off state. I don't recall that there were hibernation problems in bullseye on that system. [trimmed: things tried, references

Re: /etc/fstab question (problem)?

2023-04-19 Thread davidson
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 Default User wrote: On Wed, 2023-04-19 at 16:56 -0400, Default User wrote: On Wed, 2023-04-19 at 15:36 -0500, David Wright wrote: On Wed 19 Apr 2023 at 16:06:57 (-0400), Default User wrote: Anyway, here is where I am at: I have two Clonezilla backups. 1) a full disk

Re: Bookworm: dash shell globs don't recognise [^...] to negate a character class

2023-04-19 Thread davidson
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/04/2023 21:19, Vincent Lefevre wrote: BTW, history expansion can be very useful, but IMHO, this should have been interactive and triggered by control characters or escape sequences, not by "normal"

Re: Bookworm: dash shell globs don't recognise [^...] to negate a character class

2023-04-19 Thread davidson
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/04/2023 21:19, Vincent Lefevre wrote: BTW, history expansion can be very useful, but IMHO, this should have been interactive and triggered by control characters or escape sequences, not by "normal" characters. It would be great. Unfortunately

Re: On strange threads [was: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer...]

2023-04-16 Thread davidson
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 08:44:20PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] Tongue. Boots. Lick. This was banter. And you trimmed away the truly funny bit. You must be a pretty unhappy person. Pity you. This was pain. Pity us all. Humor is the favorite

Re: Apt sources.list

2023-04-15 Thread davidson
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 10:54:10PM +, davidson wrote: In case you wish to obscure what software you *install*, but need not conceal the software you *download*: Step one: Make a list of the packages you want, and then augment it with as many

Re: Apt sources.list

2023-04-15 Thread davidson
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 12:18:57PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Okay. Let's open this can of worms. I wish more would. The ONLY reason https is used on most sites is because Google *mandated* it years ago. ("Mandate"

Re: Bookworm: dash shell globs don't recognise [^...] to negate a character class

2023-04-15 Thread davidson
. The problem is to prevent history expansion while keeping pattern matching (glob) active. du -ks -- .[!.]* | sort -n | tail Are there versions of bash that exhibit history expansion in the example above? davidson@parsnip:0 ~$ bash --version # In case it matters GNU bash, version 5.1.4(1)-release

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread davidson
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 Brian wrote: On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote: Hi to Everyone, I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my Desktop running Debian Stretch. Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread davidson
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 Brian wrote: On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote: Hi to Everyone, I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my Desktop running Debian Stretch. Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an update (which I rarely do…), upon

Re: Commands service and systemctl.

2023-04-14 Thread davidson
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 11:12:18AM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] How about consulting man 8 service rather than a wiki webpage. Reading man pages is cheating ;-) [Humor detected.] If that were so, then consulting the corresponding

Re: Commands service and systemctl.

2023-04-14 Thread davidson
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 David Wright wrote: On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 08:05:38 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd has many occurrences of "service", none referring to the service command. For several somethings, the result of command, service something COMMAND

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-12 Thread davidson
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: I haven't tried booting yet with my "5.10.0-21-amd63-kg" initrd, though. I'll leave that to you, if you want to try. Boot went fine, but it is worth mentioning that grub-update *update-grub decided that the

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-12 Thread davidson
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 Marc Auslander wrote: On 4/10/2023 11:00 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 10 Apr 2023 at 20:17:11 (-0400), Marc Auslander wrote: I'm on Buster. In /boot I keep a copy of the current working linux named by appending -knowngood to the four

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-11 Thread davidson
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 Michel Verdier wrote: Le 11 avril 2023 davidson a écrit : Experiment #2: see if I could tweak OP's practice enough so that update-grub would not care. ...and so that "update-initramfs -u" would not notice. -- Sometim

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-11 Thread davidson
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 Michel Verdier wrote: Le 11 avril 2023 davidson a écrit : The first experiment simply tried to replicate your observations (as I understood them). Basically, I added "-kg" suffix to all the files in /boot corresponding to latest installed kernel, so that I had

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-11 Thread davidson
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 Marc Auslander wrote: On 4/10/2023 11:00 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 10 Apr 2023 at 20:17:11 (-0400), Marc Auslander wrote: I'm on Buster. In /boot I keep a copy of the current working linux named by appending -knowngood to the four files. My idea is that if an update

Re: questions about cron.daily

2023-04-09 Thread davidson
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 David Wright wrote: On Sun 09 Apr 2023 at 21:48:22 (+0200), zithro wrote: [Previously David "Between-the-Lines" Wright wrote:] IOW, while I run crontab -e on bookworm, inside my emacs session, I want a subshell to run crontab -l, but the latter has to run on bullseye in

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-09 Thread davidson
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: [trim] I just received an email from Mr. Sascha Steinbiss, the maintainer for icdiff, and tried implementing his advice on columns. I have received messages from Mr. Jeff Kaufman, the original creator. Copies of my emails have been sent you too. My

Re: how to limit a CPU temperature?

2023-04-08 Thread davidson
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 Jeremy Nicoll wrote: On Sat, 8 Apr 2023, at 15:26, songbird wrote: songbird wrote: ... i've been trying to find anything that will let me set this but no luck yet in my searches. Surely you don't need to set a temperature limit? If you do, the cpu will still run (far

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-08 Thread davidson
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 Emanuel Berg wrote: Tom Dial wrote: Look at the use of parentheses in Lisp [...] I have thought about that - is Lisp possible without them? But how do you then know priority? I'm sure someone tried to get rid of them, but how? Its quite a few years since I had anything

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-08 Thread davidson
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Fri, 7 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: Hanging Style___ Also called the Epstein style, this one is probably not the one you are using in your document. At least, not unless you are writing a glossary, or some kind of dictionary

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-08 Thread davidson
. With a little introduction. So here goes: While forensic details of your plain text document's file format is interesting and not unhelpful, I apologise for being unclear when I wrote: On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 davidson (DAV): DAV> What indicates a "paragraph break" in a given style depends on

Re: my immature thoughts on perl

2023-04-08 Thread davidson
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Apr 08, 2023 at 07:06:28AM +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote: On 08/04/2023 03:28, Emanuel Berg wrote: Andy Smith wrote: I think you should use Ruby if you like Ruby better! Perl is the best language, maybe Lisp is the best language. But

paragraph conversion (was Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?)

2023-04-07 Thread davidson
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: On 04/04/2023, davidson wrote: [trim] Attached (unless the listserv software has nuked it) is a sed script "flow" (with verbose comments) which might serve your needs. (Since you have not exhibite

Re: what's $_ in bash

2023-04-07 Thread davidson
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 t...@myposts.ovh wrote: Hello in bash shell, what's "$_" variable? I'd be interested to learn as well. where defines it? In the meantime you can read in $ man bash under section "PARAMETERS", subheading "Shell Variables": Shell Variables The following variables

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-07 Thread davidson
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 Michel Verdier wrote: Le 3 avril 2023 Greg Wooledge a écrit : Here's a bash version. It's not fast, but at least it doesn't invoke perl repeatedly. (If you're going to invoke perl *at all* you should simply rewrite the whole thing in perl, IMHO, or at worst have a short sh

Re: |Inquiry regarding fixing the error light display manager

2023-04-06 Thread davidson
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 Bret Busby wrote: On 5/4/23 03:43, davidson wrote: It is said that if you wash a cat it will never again wash itself. This may or may not be true: what is certain is that if you teach a man anything he will never learn it. -- George Bernard Shaw The "Bernard Shaw"

Re: questions about cron.daily

2023-04-06 Thread davidson
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 Fred wrote: [trimmed] I also would like to know when cron.daily scripts run. Greg's command does not appear to reveal the time for that script. I ran Greg's command and got the same result. $ grep -FA7 "Example of job definition" /etc/crontab ; grep daily /etc/crontab #

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-06 Thread davidson
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: What indicates a "paragraph break" in a given style depends on the form, not the content, of the material to be processed. Replace "...in a given style" with "...in a given document" -- Sometimes it pays to have squirre

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-06 Thread davidson
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: [trimmed: email headers included in message body] [ ... ] Dear Mr. Davidson, I think that we better drop this thread for the time being. We are each of us the masters of our respective time and attention, and thank ${DEITY[@]} for that. I look

Re: vtty & X terminal color scourge

2023-04-05 Thread davidson
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:33:26PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: What bothers me more than anything is that dead symlinks haven't been red, or anything else to distinguish them, in a long time

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-05 Thread davidson
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: Attached (unless the listserv software has nuked it) is a sed script "flow" (with verbose comments) which might serve your needs. (Since you have not exhibited here any of the text you are working with, I can only play the role of speculativ

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-05 Thread davidson
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: Attached (unless the listserv software has nuked it) is a sed script "flow" (with verbose comments) which might serve your needs. (Since you have not exhibited here any of the text you are working with, I can only play the role of speculativ

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-05 Thread davidson
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: On 04/04/2023, davidson wrote: [trimmed email headers] [trimmed preliminary negotiation of what would constitute a solution] That is, you'd like to be shown as many characters on one screen as possible, without a lot of wastefully empty margins. (I

Re: vtty & X terminal color scourge

2023-04-05 Thread davidson
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: Having done that, I have never needed the --color=never alias (in my accounts). s/alias/option/ -- Hackers are free people. They are like artists. If they are in a good mood, they get up in the morning and begin painting their pictures. -- Vladimir Putin

Re: vtty & X terminal color scourge

2023-04-05 Thread davidson
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:33:26PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: What bothers me more than anything is that dead symlinks haven't been red, or anything else to distinguish them, in a long time. So... you're

Re: |Inquiry regarding fixing the error light display manager

2023-04-04 Thread davidson
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 Bala personal wrote: Hello Team, Hello, Sailor. No team here. Just users like us. Hence "debian-user". Greetings. When i tried to install Debian xfce in my new computer Acer Aspire5, NVIDIA hardware pre installed support, i faced an issue after reboot the system as

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-04 Thread davidson
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 david...@freevolt.org wrote: On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: [trim] icdiff will not do that. icdiff is faithful to its sources. I have determined this by trying it out a little myself, and by examining the command line options documented in its manual page ("man i

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-04 Thread davidson
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: [trim] icdiff will not do that. icdiff is faithful to its sources. I have determined this by trying it out a little myself, and by examining the command line options documented in its manual page ("man icdiff"). You could give it different sources:

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-04 Thread davidson
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: [trimmed headers] [ ... ] You have reported that redirecting icdiff output to a file, in your words, "drops all colors". And so I have three questions: [trimmed davidson's questions] $ icdiff file1 file2 > pretty_diff $ less -R pretty_diff [ ...

apt colored output (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back)

2023-04-02 Thread davidson
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 davidson wrote: Replying to myself. According to [console_codes(4), under section ECMA-48 Set Graphics Rendition], [this value] sets "blink off" # apt -o "APT::Color::Highlight=^[[25m" search nethack For me, this produces text in the default

Re: How to get rid of the synaptic message (mentioned below) at the end of installing a package?

2023-04-02 Thread davidson
On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: My illustrious team leaders and senior debian-user list-members, My present Debian system installed from "Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.6.0 lxde 2022-12-17T11:46" While installing a package I receive this following message: I do not use synaptic,

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-02 Thread davidson
On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: [trimmed: email headers] On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: [ ... ] You do not tell us what application you are using to view the file contents. If it is not a terminal application, it might well fail to independently implement for your

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-01 Thread davidson
On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: The "colors" are control sequences, instructions for terminal emulators conforming to a standard. Terminals understand them to mean "now paint glyphs red" or "now make them bold" or "now stop doing all that fancy stu

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-01 Thread davidson
On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: [ ... ] Try icdiff file1 file2 | less -R and report back. [ ... ] Yes, it worked. Worked better than the code-line with " | more". Mouse-scrolling working both ways. So really thank you. My need should have been fulfilled so far as the purpose

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-01 Thread davidson
On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: My illustrious team leaders and senior debian-user list-members, [trimmed: admirably comprehensive description of OPs use-case] Diff helps in comparing the two draft editions. It does indeed do what it was designed to do. Dear Mr. l0f4r0: that

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-03-31 Thread davidson
On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: Start here instead: $ diff file1 file2 It displays the differences, and your terminal will wrap lines (and break words) to fit the window for you. Does it do what you want? A concise explanation of diff's default output format (which is a little cryptic

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-03-31 Thread davidson
On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 davidson wrote: Some elaboration on my first take. On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: My dear illustrious leaders and senior debian-user list-members, I neglected to notice the proper subset of readers on whom you intended to inflict your request. I tried diffuse

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-03-31 Thread davidson
On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: My dear illustrious leaders and senior debian-user list-members, I tried diffuse, but it appears to me that it suffers from a limitation so far as my need is concerned. It compares files by lines and line numbers, so I can't use word-wrap to have the

Re: rtorrent man page, Jari "Rakshasa" Sundell mail bounces

2023-03-30 Thread davidson
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 Emanuel Berg wrote: davidson wrote: I tried to mail him but that mail bounces, apparently it's an alias which expands into ja...@student.matnat.uio.no but it's a "Gone", 550. I found the page below in my bookmarks. Maybe a more helpful pointer to the same pa

Re: rtorrent man page, Jari "Rakshasa" Sundell mail bounces

2023-03-30 Thread davidson
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 Emanuel Berg wrote: FYI the man page for rtorrent, from 2015-02-25, has this part AUTHORS Jari "Rakshasa" Sundell I tried to mail him but that mail bounces, apparently it's an alias which expands into ja...@student.matnat.uio.no but it's a "Gone", 550. I found the

Re: alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages keptback)

2023-03-29 Thread davidson
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 gene heskett wrote: On 3/28/23 06:53, davidson wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 gene heskett wrote: On 3/27/23 09:18, Nicolas George wrote: Dan Ritter (12023-03-27): [Dan suggests googling ANSI color escapes] changing 33 to 30 will get you black. ANSI color escapes

alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back)

2023-03-28 Thread davidson
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 gene heskett wrote: On 3/27/23 09:18, Nicolas George wrote: Dan Ritter (12023-03-27): changing 33 to 30 will get you black. ANSI color escapes are on the web in many places. Also, decent terminal emulators let users tweak the colors, and making sure all main colors are

Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back

2023-03-28 Thread davidson
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 Jesper Dybdal wrote: On 2023-03-27 10:59, davidson wrote: It baffles me that the number of packages suggested for autoremoval is different, between guile-2.2-libs and w3m. Me too. The two packages depend on different collections of supporting packages. And so, depending

Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back

2023-03-28 Thread davidson
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 08:52:10AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: 3) apt uses a horrible yellow color that is nigh-unreadable on a white background. (This is not configurable.) I use exclusively apt-hyphenated commands

Re: Playing Card Symbols

2023-03-27 Thread davidson
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 Jude DaShiell wrote: [My mail client is] alpine for now. If I can't fix it I'll have to switch and that's alpine running on panix.com. I'll look through the configuration and find what I can. I read most email in a VT (ie, a linux console) with alpine. And I set emacs as

Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back

2023-03-27 Thread davidson
of your suggested commands; they may not be interesting, They were. but just in case, they are available at     https://www.dybdal.dk/bullseye with links in the text below. Yes, I was curious. Thank you. On 2023-03-26 13:17, davidson wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 Jesper Dybdal wrote: [trimmed

Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back

2023-03-26 Thread davidson
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 Jesper Dybdal wrote: Yesterday, I upgraded Buster => Bullseye. Release notes for Debian 11 (bullseye) Upgrades from Debian 10 (buster) :: section 4.8 Obsolete Packages https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#obsolete This

Re: should CLI have a nice UI today?

2023-03-24 Thread davidson
On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 davidson wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 cor...@free.fr wrote: Hello, Should CLI (command line interface) have a nice UI library? The teletype (whether virtualised or not) and shells which constitute that "CLI" are interfaces designed for a purpose. Speaking of th

Re: should CLI have a nice UI today?

2023-03-24 Thread davidson
On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 cor...@free.fr wrote: Hello, Should CLI (command line interface) have a nice UI library? The teletype (whether virtualised or not) and shells which constitute that "CLI" are interfaces designed for a purpose. today web dev has so many libraries that make web pages with

Re: Consultation on license documents

2023-03-17 Thread davidson
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 刘涛 wrote: Hello, I have the following questions to consult and look forward to your authoritative answers. [OP's legal questions elided] Legal issues https://www.debian.org/legal/ The mailing list for Debian legal matters is debian-le...@lists.debian.org To

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread davidson
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 davidson wrote: On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 Jude DaShiell wrote: I have had multiple verification failures checking an iso with a sha256sum verification file and am wondering if that program and the rest of the shaxxxsum programs have one or more bugs that could account

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread davidson
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 Jude DaShiell wrote: I have had multiple verification failures checking an iso with a sha256sum verification file and am wondering if that program and the rest of the shaxxxsum programs have one or more bugs that could account for these failures. Let the sha256sum program

Re: Grub bug on Debian 11

2023-03-16 Thread davidson
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 Mario Marietto wrote: No problem. But without offence,what you are suggesting to me is not to make something to understand what's the real problem and why it's happening, I believe that the locution above --"make something to understand"-- paraphrases "diagnose". but you

Re: Grub bug on Debian 11

2023-03-16 Thread davidson
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 Mario Marietto wrote in reply to Andrew Cater: --> *Which* Debian .iso did you install with ? debian-live-11.5.0-amd64-xfce.iso. Is there a way to upgrade this to the version that you have suggested ? I prefer to learn how to upgrade it than to make a fresh installation. I

Re: Grub bug on Debian 11

2023-03-13 Thread davidson
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 Mario Marietto wrote: Hello to every Debian user. [elided: Mario Marietto's apology for posting the following question off-topic in another thread] "I've just installed Debian 11 and I see that it is affected by the bug explained here :

Re: real debian or true debian?

2023-03-13 Thread davidson
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 cor...@free.fr wrote: On 13/03/2023 10:12, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:02 PM wrote: When such a debian (the digital product) is authentic, should we say it "real debian" or "true debian"? I am not sure about this statement. Fee Fie

Re: debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-12 Thread davidson
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 digital...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines and on both the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual console. If i am logged in an active KDE session and i switch to the virtual console with: strg alt f2 and

Re: debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-12 Thread davidson
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 digital...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines So you decided stable was too boring, and chose to install testing. and on both the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual console. If i am logged in an active

Re: question about rc.local

2023-03-10 Thread davidson
On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 David Wright wrote: On Fri 10 Mar 2023 at 18:47:02 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-03-10 18:00:41 +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: Am Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 04:29:34PM +0100 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: On 2023-03-10 09:58:55 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Mar 10,

Re: Trying to find the source iso's for debian buster and bookworm

2023-03-04 Thread davidson
On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 Keith Christian wrote: Several versions back, we could download the source code on various iso files for previous and current releases. Debian CDs/DVDs archive https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ Where can those be found for Buster [...] I would look in the

Re: solution to / full

2023-03-03 Thread davidson
On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 Curt wrote: On 2023-03-02, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 07:25:58AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: I don't understand why you used sort -r, but then reversed it again with tac at the end. You could drop both of the reversals, and just change head to tail.

Re: where are the actual ".deb" packages? all I see are "pkgcache.bin" and "srcpkgcache.bin" . . .

2023-02-26 Thread davidson
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 Albretch Mueller wrote: Basically, I am trying to download all packages that are part of the installation dependencies of a given one into a directory of my choosing to then install packages on an unexposed machine. Like Roberto Sanchez wrote, this sounds like a use-case

Re: New Dell Inspiron 15 3000 Series 3511 sound problem on Debian 11 Stable

2023-02-10 Thread davidson
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 Default User wrote: Hello to all! Hello. Full disclosure: I know very little about audio troubleshooting. I just got a brand new Dell Inspiron 15 3000 Series 3511 laptop. Came with Windows (ugh!) preinstalled. My old Dell Inspiron 15 3000 Series 3542 laptop (made in

Re: tab completion is sluggish

2022-11-26 Thread davidson
On Sat, 26 Nov 2022 email.list...@gmail.com wrote: On 2022-11-26 16:55, David Wright wrote: On Sat 26 Nov 2022 at 14:00:39 (+0100), email.list...@gmail.com wrote: Doing tab completion in my user account is quite sluggish, it takes about half a second before anything happens after pressing

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-16 Thread davidson
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, Does the browser have the ability to create a screenshot after a fashion? Full disclosure: I have never used the "links" text browser. I very quickly searched the following page for any indication that the links browser has a function

Re: apt-get -qq install

2022-08-02 Thread davidson
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 Victor Sudakov wrote: davidson wrote: I'm trying to quiet apt's output by using `apt-get -qqy` in a CI/CD pipeline, however I still see ugly stuff like this in my CI/CD log: Selecting previously unselected package php-common. (Reading database ... (Reading database ... 5

Re: apt-get -qq install

2022-08-02 Thread davidson
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 Victor Sudakov wrote: Dear Colleagues, I'm trying to quiet apt's output by using `apt-get -qqy` in a CI/CD pipeline, however I still see ugly stuff like this in my CI/CD log: Selecting previously unselected package php-common. (Reading database ... (Reading database ... 5%

Re: Openbox and multiple screens.

2022-04-18 Thread davidson
On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 davidson wrote: On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 pe...@easthope.ca wrote: Hi, This system has two screens. https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox#Files lists ~/.config/openbox/autostart. Autostarting works except that I haven't found a way to configure the location or screen where a new

Re: Openbox and multiple screens.

2022-04-18 Thread davidson
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 pe...@easthope.ca wrote: Hi, This system has two screens. https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox#Files lists ~/.config/openbox/autostart. Autostarting works except that I haven't found a way to configure the location or screen where a new window opens. How is that done? $ man

Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"

2022-04-09 Thread davidson
On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/08/2022 01:18 AM, Tixy wrote: On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for *OFFLINE* use. The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual]

Re: GNOME brightness controls have no effect on brightness

2022-04-08 Thread davidson
On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 davidson wrote: On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 Juan R.D. Silva wrote: On 2022-04-04 5:17 a.m., davidson wrote: On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 Juan R.D. Silva wrote: Hi folks, Debian 11 on Dell M4800 Mobile Workstation with Nvidia Quadro K2100M card. I've been using the system with full (100

Re: GNOME brightness controls have no effect on brightness

2022-04-04 Thread davidson
On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 Juan R.D. Silva wrote: On 2022-04-04 5:17 a.m., davidson wrote: On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 Juan R.D. Silva wrote: Hi folks, Debian 11 on Dell M4800 Mobile Workstation with Nvidia Quadro K2100M card. I've been using the system with full (100%) screen brightness for rather long

Re: GNOME brightness controls have no effect on brightness

2022-04-04 Thread davidson
On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 Juan R.D. Silva wrote: Hi folks, Debian 11 on Dell M4800 Mobile Workstation with Nvidia Quadro K2100M card. I've been using the system with full (100%) screen brightness for rather long time. Today I wanted to reduce it and to my astonishment found that GNOME "progressed"

Re: Downloading from lists.debian.org/debian-user in mbox format

2021-05-17 Thread davidson
On Mon, 17 May 2021 davidson wrote: [dd] It seems to me that this rationale depends on a couple of unstated premises: 1. If published, each mbox would contain one month's worth of messages, all of the messages in one file. 2. it is significantly easier for spammers to download a single file

Re: Downloading from lists.debian.org/debian-user in mbox format

2021-05-17 Thread davidson
On Mon, 17 May 2021 Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/17/2021 08:50 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 17 May 2021 at 04:58:42 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Some mailing list save posts in mbox format. Is there any way to download specific threads from lists.debian.org/debian-user in mbox format? I've

Re: Howto disable automounting of all removeable media

2021-05-15 Thread davidson
On Sat, 15 May 2021 Richard Owlett wrote: I have disabled auto-mounting of removable media on my Stretch install with MATE. Here was Brian's advice for doing this on jessie with MATE: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/09/msg01077.html [...] Try gsettings set

Re: Thunderbird: how can I set permanent custom headers?

2021-05-14 Thread davidson
On Fri, 14 May 2021 Ottavio Caruso wrote: Hi, For the lack of a dedicated Thunderbird mailing list, I am forced to ask here. I am using Debian Buster. I have set up a custom header (X-no-archive) using this guide: https://www.lifewire.com/arbitrary-custom-heading-email-thunderbird-1173089

Re: Form filling, etc.

2021-05-12 Thread davidson
On Wed, 12 May 2021 Dennis Wicks wrote: Greetings, My bank and credit company use javascript or something similar to build the login screen so my password manager can't find the user-id and password fields to fill them in. The fields don't show up in the downloaded source code or in the source

Re: generate a rss.xml from a bunch of HTML files

2021-05-12 Thread davidson
On Mon, 10 May 2021 Emanuel Berg wrote: ...and this somewhat more complex-looking one... "W3C RSS 1.0 News Feed Creation How-To" https://www.w3.org/2001/10/glance/doc/howto Great, but stops on and , Elsewhere in the thread you seem to have moved on from XSLT to more promising options,

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