Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-09-18 Thread Adam Cécile
Hi there, So here's what I did finally: Got two rental server at https://www.scaleway.com/, one is arm64 (without armhf support) and Paris datacenter still have old hardware for rent that's armhf based. Both cost me around 6€ a month, so that's quite a good offer. Both machines have 4 cores

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-30 Thread Adam Cécile
Right, 1Gb and slow I/O, that's definitely a block for building Java stuff... On 08/29/2017 06:31 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: Hi there, On 08/29/2017 06:07 PM, Adam Cecile wrote: Could be an alternative indeed, but what about the speed compared to my quad-core i5 with qemu ? I haven't

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-29 Thread Adam Cecile
Hi, I was not aware of this optional 32 bit compatibility. That kinda sucks. Actually, I'm already using qemu with cowbuilder (I mean, a lot) but my biggest problem is not the slowness but the broken thread implementation. It's nearly impossible to get something built with Java without any

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-29 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi there, On 08/29/2017 06:07 PM, Adam Cecile wrote: > Could be an alternative indeed, but what about the speed compared to > my quad-core i5 with qemu ? I haven't actually tried that specific comparison, but form my experience a Pi tends to be a tiny bit faster in pure CPU performance than qemu

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-29 Thread Adam Cecile
On 08/29/2017 05:19 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: Hi, Am 29. August 2017 17:04:29 MESZ schrieb Adam Cecile : I was not aware of this optional 32 bit compatibility. That kinda sucks. Yeah, especially since you had the misfortune of getting the one chip that is sold that

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-29 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi, Am 29. August 2017 17:04:29 MESZ schrieb Adam Cecile : >I was not aware of this optional 32 bit compatibility. That kinda >sucks. Yeah, especially since you had the misfortune of getting the one chip that is sold that doesn't support it. >Actually, I'm already using

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-29 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi, 32bit ARM compatibility is optional according to the specification, and if your CPU doesn't support it, you won't be able to natively run armhf executables. This is in contrast to x86, where all[*] 64bit x86 CPUs also support running old 32bit programs. From what I've read it appears to be

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-29 Thread Adam Cecile
On 08/29/2017 10:50 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 08:49:40AM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote: I'm actually running arm64, not amd64 ;-) My eyes are failing me then ☺. Can you provide your /proc/cpuinfo then please? Sure: processor: 0 BogoMIPS: 200.00 Features: fp

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 08:49:40AM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote: > > > I'm actually running arm64, not amd64 ;-) > > My eyes are failing me then ☺. > > > > Can you provide your /proc/cpuinfo then please? > > Sure: > > processor: 0 > BogoMIPS: 200.00 > Features: fp asimd

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-29 Thread Adam Cecile
On 08/29/2017 08:25 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:33:50 +0200 Hitec Adam Cecile wrote: Hi, I'm actually running arm64, not amd64 ;-) My eyes are failing me then ☺. Can you provide your /proc/cpuinfo then please? Reco Sure: processor: 0

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:33:50 +0200 Hitec Adam Cecile wrote: > Hi, > > I'm actually running arm64, not amd64 ;-) My eyes are failing me then ☺. Can you provide your /proc/cpuinfo then please? Reco

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-28 Thread Hitec Adam Cecile
Hi, I'm actually running arm64, not amd64 ;-) Le 28 août 2017 23:25:56 GMT+02:00, Reco a écrit : > Hi. > >On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:50:17 +0200 >Adam Cécile wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> I'm trying to set up armhf on arm64 stretch but it does not

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-28 Thread Sven Hartge
Reco wrote: > The reason being - an executable binary contains CPU instructions that > are suited to CPU of designated architecture only. In your example it's > armv5. Your CPU is amd64 and its unable to interpret those - it can only > understand i386 and amd64 instruction

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-28 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:50:17 +0200 Adam Cécile wrote: > Hello, > > > I'm trying to set up armhf on arm64 stretch but it does not work: > > > file /tmp/bash/bin/bash > > /tmp/bash/bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 > (SYSV),

[Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

2017-08-28 Thread Adam Cécile
Hello, I'm trying to set up armhf on arm64 stretch but it does not work: file /tmp/bash/bin/bash /tmp/bash/bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0,