Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-07 Thread Terence
On 7 October 2011 00:59, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote: but I'll bet not one in a thousand has ever heard of a gill. (BTW, Wiki says to say jill.)  4 oz. is 1/4 of a US pint. The Artha thesaurus-cum-dictionary has this to say: * gill ~ noun    uncommon   1. a British

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-07 Thread Weaver
On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 08:03:13 +0100 Terence terence.j...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 October 2011 00:59, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote: but I'll bet not one in a thousand has ever heard of a gill. (BTW, Wiki says to say jill.)  4 oz. is 1/4 of a US pint. The Artha thesaurus-cum-dictionary has

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-07 Thread Terence
On 7 October 2011 08:36, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote: On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 08:03:13 +0100 Terence terence.j...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 October 2011 00:59, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote: but I'll bet not one in a thousand has ever heard of a gill. (BTW, Wiki says to say jill.)  4 oz. is

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-07 Thread Joe
On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:36:27 +1000 Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote: On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 08:03:13 +0100 Terence terence.j...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 October 2011 00:59, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote: but I'll bet not one in a thousand has ever heard of a gill. (BTW, Wiki says to say

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 02:54:42PM +, Curt wrote: A liter of water weighs a kilo and is one meter long (at sea level). A liter of water can be any length you want[1] (at any altitude), depending on its cross-section. [1] Well, OK, there is an upper limit, depending on how close you require

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Curt
On 2011-10-06, Dave Sherohman d...@sherohman.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 02:54:42PM +, Curt wrote: A liter of water weighs a kilo and is one meter long (at sea level). A liter of water can be any length you want[1] (at any altitude), depending on its cross-section. Yes, this was a

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 05 October 2011 01:02:36 Weaver wrote: I think it's a pity that the gill has fallen into misuse. Its usefulness is limited by the fact that it is not a fixed measure, but covers various different amounts according to the region in which it is used, anyhow in the UK. Hence, I

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Weaver
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:56:27 +0100 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 05 October 2011 01:02:36 Weaver wrote: I think it's a pity that the gill has fallen into misuse. Its usefulness is limited by the fact that it is not a fixed measure, but covers various different amounts

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 06 October 2011 21:18:41 Weaver wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:56:27 +0100 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 05 October 2011 01:02:36 Weaver wrote: I think it's a pity that the gill has fallen into misuse. Its usefulness is limited by the fact that it is not a

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Weaver
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:43:55 +0100 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 06 October 2011 21:18:41 Weaver wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:56:27 +0100 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 05 October 2011 01:02:36 Weaver wrote: I think it's a pity that the gill has fallen

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 06 October 2011 22:42:27 Weaver wrote: Then 'wiktionary' and 'regions' are wrong. I have worked through northern Italy, France, Austria, Australia and New Zealand and have never come across a variance. Perhaps a higher authority? But not the UK. It may indeed be different

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Doug
On 10/06/2011 04:18 PM, Weaver wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:56:27 +0100 Lisilisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 05 October 2011 01:02:36 Weaver wrote: I think it's a pity that the gill has fallen into misuse. Its usefulness is limited by the fact that it is not a fixed measure, but

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Weaver
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:27:29 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 10/06/2011 04:18 PM, Weaver wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:56:27 +0100 Lisilisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 05 October 2011 01:02:36 Weaver wrote: I think it's a pity that the gill has fallen into misuse.

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Doug
On 10/06/2011 06:38 PM, Weaver wrote: The units program says a gill is 118.3 ml. If you look at the data script for units, there is a very impressive list of sources. I believe that the units program was first mentioned in this thread, so it is definitely available in Debian. I beleive

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-06 Thread Weaver
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:17:04 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 10/06/2011 06:38 PM, Weaver wrote: The units program says a gill is 118.3 ml. If you look at the data script for units, there is a very impressive list of sources. I believe that the units program was first

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 23:51 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 15:25 -0400, Doug wrote: The US pint is 16 ounces, and the US quart and gallon are based on that. 32 oz. = 1 qt; 4 qts. = 1 gal. That's why the British gallon is 5 US quarts, or 4 British quarts. The

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-05 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 03:25:54PM -0400, Doug wrote: On 10/04/2011 07:46 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 03:55:45PM -0400, Doug wrote: The US pint is 16 ounces, and the US quart and gallon are based on that. 32 oz. = 1 qt; 4 qts. = 1 gal. That's why the British gallon is 5 US

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-05 Thread Weaver
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:23:47 +0100 Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 03:25:54PM -0400, Doug wrote: On 10/04/2011 07:46 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 03:55:45PM -0400, Doug wrote: The US pint is 16 ounces, and the US quart and gallon are

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-05 Thread John Hasler
Ralf Mardorf writes: As long as they aren't stored on the hips, I prefer it too :p. 1l of water (at normal pressur, temparature etc.) = 1kg, so they are good measuring units, since everybody is able to understand the relation. That works as well for US pints and pounds. It's not a good way to

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-05 Thread Curt
On 2011-10-04, Walter Hurry walterhu...@lavabit.com wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:25:54 -0400, Doug wrote: One gallon of gasoline is about 6 pounds. Actually, here in the UK it's about seven pounds and fifty pence :-( Here it's very (C)artesian and makes oodles of sense. A liter of water

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-05 Thread Doug
On 10/05/2011 05:58 AM, Weaver wrote: On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:23:47 +0100 Darac Marjalmailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 03:25:54PM -0400, Doug wrote: On 10/04/2011 07:46 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 03:55:45PM -0400, Doug wrote: The US pint is 16

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-05 Thread John Hasler
doug writes: Thanks to Artha, which is billed as a Thesaurus, but is a really useful dictionary as well. It's in the pclos repos, don't know about other distros. units knows about kilderkin, and just about any other unit of measure you can imagine. BTW a kilderkin is two firkins. -- John

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-05 Thread Doug
On 10/05/2011 03:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: doug writes: Thanks to Artha, which is billed as a Thesaurus, but is a really useful dictionary as well. It's in the pclos repos, don't know about other distros. units knows about kilderkin, and just about any other unit of measure you can imagine.

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-05 Thread Weaver
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:28:10 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 10/05/2011 03:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: doug writes: Thanks to Artha, which is billed as a Thesaurus, but is a really useful dictionary as well. It's in the pclos repos, don't know about other distros. units

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-04 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 03:55:45PM -0400, Doug wrote: The liquid measure is liter, used here only in medical labs and liquor stores, altho some bottled products have both ounces and liters, so as to placate the Canadians, who gave up ounces and quarts, etc., some years ago. (Some year, no

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-04 Thread John Hasler
Tom Furie writes: Am I right in thinking that in the US a pint is 16fl.oz? Here, in Britain, a pint is 20fl.oz. Is your pint smaller, or your fl.oz larger? The USA customary pint is 16 fl oz. A US customary fluid ounce is 1.0408427 Imperial fluid ounces. Since 1866 both SI (metric) and US

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-04 Thread Doug
On 10/04/2011 07:46 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 03:55:45PM -0400, Doug wrote: The liquid measure is liter, used here only in medical labs and liquor stores, altho some bottled products have both ounces and liters, so as to placate the Canadians, who gave up ounces and quarts,

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-04 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:25:54 -0400, Doug wrote: One gallon of gasoline is about 6 pounds. Actually, here in the UK it's about seven pounds and fifty pence :-( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-04 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 15:25 -0400, Doug wrote: The US pint is 16 ounces, and the US quart and gallon are based on that. 32 oz. = 1 qt; 4 qts. = 1 gal. That's why the British gallon is 5 US quarts, or 4 British quarts. The ounce is the same size, or almost. (As wiki says, research is

Re: [OT] Imperial measures

2011-10-04 Thread Weaver
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 23:51:26 +0100 Wolodja Wentland babi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 15:25 -0400, Doug wrote: The US pint is 16 ounces, and the US quart and gallon are based on that. 32 oz. = 1 qt; 4 qts. = 1 gal. That's why the British gallon is 5 US quarts, or 4 British