Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-10 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: Paul Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 09:11 Subject: Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)) is an interesting and thoughtful man. Having

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-08 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 04:05:36 +, ben_foley wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:23:31AM -0800, Tom wrote: david attenborough is one of the few honest humans on the planet. anyone who tries to tell you that he's full of shit is missing the point of being here, to begin with. the elegance of

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 at 05:57 GMT, Paul E Condon penned: As the most recent user of this phrase on this list, let me join this discussion: The sense in which I meant 'know history' was to know what has happened in prior times when a certain course of action or a certain line of reasoning

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread David Palmer.
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:14:16 -0700 Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 05:40:32AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 02:25:18PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 at 21:13 GMT, csj penned: As usual, science fiction was

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread David Palmer.
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 00:32:46 -0700 Monique Y. Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 at 05:57 GMT, Paul E Condon penned: As the most recent user of this phrase on this list, let me join this discussion: The sense in which I meant 'know history' was to know what has

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread Tom
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 06:16:15PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: Heidegger, not Kant is the one with the answer here. 'Dasein', - Man, the being for whom being is a question. With all due respect to cats and dogs. Have you ever seen the Intelligence episode of Trials of Life ? Have you ever

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread Klaus Imgrund
On Sunday 07 December 2003 05:23 am, Tom wrote: Have you ever seen a dog play with a mouse by torturing it? Animals don't have a concept of torture. Most pets rarely kill anything and are almost as clueless how to go about it as I am with fixing my box. They are merely what appears to be

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread Tom
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 06:17:12AM -0500, Klaus Imgrund wrote: On Sunday 07 December 2003 05:23 am, Tom wrote: Have you ever seen a dog play with a mouse by torturing it? Animals don't have a concept of torture. I don't much care what you want to call it -- point is they do it. Killer

..D-C, was: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:09:01 +0800, David Palmer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:14:16 -0700 Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 05:40:32AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 02:25:18PM -0700,

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 at 11:17 GMT, Klaus Imgrund penned: On Sunday 07 December 2003 05:23 am, Tom wrote: Have you ever seen a dog play with a mouse by torturing it? Animals don't have a concept of torture. Most pets rarely kill anything and are almost as clueless how to go about it as I

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread Tom
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 09:57:49AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Anyway, I have definitely had dogs who had a sense of torture -- lock them outside for a few hours and they would whine, and whine, and whine about being tortured by not being allowed inside I saw my dog get embaressed once.

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread ben_foley
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:23:31AM -0800, Tom wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 09:57:49AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Anyway, I have definitely had dogs who had a sense of torture -- lock them outside for a few hours and they would whine, and whine, and whine about being tortured by

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-06 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 01:29:31PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 17:56 GMT, Paul Johnson penned: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 07:13:33PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: Put all politicians on a wage of $500.00/week, and make

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-06 Thread Jason Newquist
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friends of mine postulated the idea of having politician duty in much the same was as we have jury duty ... you get a letter one day telling you it's your turn to serve. Pretty sure this was done in at least one ancient govt ... think it was

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-06 Thread ben_foley
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 02:25:18PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 at 21:13 GMT, csj penned: As usual, science fiction was here before. C.F., _The Songs of Distant Earth_ by Arthur C. Clarke. You do remember that the first generation colonists in the novel were

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 05:40:32AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 02:25:18PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 at 21:13 GMT, csj penned: As usual, science fiction was here before. C.F., _The Songs of Distant Earth_ by Arthur C. Clarke.

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 05:40:32AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 02:25:18PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 at 21:13 GMT, csj penned: As usual, science fiction was here before. C.F., _The Songs of Distant Earth_ by Arthur C. Clarke.