On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:35:36 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Stephen, most PC IO plates are removable, have been for well over 15
years. Once you remove the motherboard you simply stick your thumb on
the interior side of the IO panel and pop it out the back. New mobos
come with their own
On 8/28/2012 2:01 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi Stan,
Am Montag, 27. August 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
For a desktop user workload, there will be no noticeable performance
difference, because such applications don't do parallel IO.
Are you sure about 1) desktop applications I/O
On 8/28/2012 3:11 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:48:27 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
What I meant was that I may buy the new mobo, processor, and RAM
that you suggested and put it in this second machine I'm talking about.
Well, I've looked into it, and that's not
Am Mittwoch, 29. August 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
On 8/28/2012 2:01 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi Stan,
Am Montag, 27. August 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
For a desktop user workload, there will be no noticeable performance
difference, because such applications don't do parallel
On 8/27/2012 6:12 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:42:54 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
I know enough to be dangerous, but not
always enough to be competent. That's why I opened this thread
in the first place.
In this case the solution is as simple
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Sadly, due to market realities and diminished customer demand for large
monolithic servers, the biggest x86 box Unisys now sells is an 8-way 4U
Xeon box. Though with up to 80 cores, 332x times the memory bandwidth,
and similarly higher IO bus
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:04:20 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
By the way, there's something I don't understand. A 32-bit processor can
only access 4G of real (extended) memory, right? So why are there
motherboards available for 32-bit processors that support installing
shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
By the way, there's something I don't understand. A 32-bit processor can
only access 4G of real (extended) memory, right? So why are there
motherboards available
On 8/28/2012 5:40 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Sadly, due to market realities and diminished customer demand for large
monolithic servers, the biggest x86 box Unisys now sells is an 8-way 4U
Xeon box. Though with up to 80 cores, 332x times
Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu writes:
shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
By the way, there's something I don't understand. A 32-bit processor can
only access 4G of real (extended) memory,
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
It's memory bandwidth of 20GB/s was many times higher than any x86
server at that time as they all used a single P6 bus, with only 1GB/s
bandwidth. 20GB/s is peanuts today given just two channels of DDR3-1333
have
Hi Stan,
Am Montag, 27. August 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
On 8/27/2012 8:27 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
I run an SSD on my MCP61P so lack of NCQ has no impact
whatsoever--SSD's have no moving parts, and all seeks
are instantaneous.
While I haven't heard of NCQ improving read speed of
Sorry that I post twice, but in hindsight I thought I´d give this a more
descriptive subject. Please reply to this second post.
Hi Stan,
Am Montag, 27. August 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
On 8/27/2012 8:27 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
I run an SSD on my MCP61P so lack of NCQ has no impact
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:48:27 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
What I meant was that I may buy the new mobo, processor, and RAM
that you suggested and put it in this second machine I'm talking about.
Well, I've looked into it, and that's not going to work. The mobo
you suggested has stuff
On 8/28/2012 12:43 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
It's memory bandwidth of 20GB/s was many times higher than any x86
server at that time as they all used a single P6 bus, with only 1GB/s
bandwidth. 20GB/s is peanuts today
I run an SSD on my MCP61P so lack of NCQ has no impact
whatsoever--SSD's have no moving parts, and all seeks
are instantaneous.
While I haven't heard of NCQ improving read speed of SSDs, it can have
a significant positive impact on write speed for SSDs.
Stefan
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On 8/27/2012 8:27 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
I run an SSD on my MCP61P so lack of NCQ has no impact
whatsoever--SSD's have no moving parts, and all seeks
are instantaneous.
While I haven't heard of NCQ improving read speed of SSDs, it can have
a significant positive impact on write speed for
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:42:54 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
I know enough to be dangerous, but not
always enough to be competent. That's why I opened this thread
in the first place.
In this case the solution is as simple as downloading and reading the
manual for
Stephen Powell writes:
So why are there motherboards available for 32-bit processors that
support installing more than 4G of RAM?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:42:54 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
I know enough to be dangerous, but not
always enough to be competent. That's why I opened this thread
in the first place.
In this case the solution is as
Stephen Powell wrote:
By the way, there's something I don't understand. A 32-bit processor can
only access 4G of real (extended) memory, right? So why are there
motherboards available for 32-bit processors that support installing
more than 4G of RAM? What good is memory that the processor
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
By the way, there's something I don't understand. A 32-bit processor can
only access 4G of real (extended) memory, right? So why are there
motherboards available for 32-bit processors that support
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 23:44:50 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Search for GeForce 6150. That's the integrated GPU. Wikipedia tells
you this.
My mistake. I thought MCP61 was the chipset name. The Wikipedia
article I found also indicated that MCP61 ... introduced a bug in
the SATA NCQ
On 8/26/2012 8:48 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 23:44:50 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Search for GeForce 6150. That's the integrated GPU. Wikipedia tells
you this.
My mistake. I thought MCP61 was the chipset name.
It can be a bit confusing I guess. Here's a
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:45:23 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
On 8/23/2012 7:28 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
Hmm. I'm not even sure if this is the right kind of memory.
It is.
OK, if you say so. I guess oempcworld.com is trying to sell me
faster memory than I really need. I was confused
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:37:17 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
On 8/24/2012 6:54 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
OK, now we're getting somewhere. There is an eight-pin connector
coming from the power supply that plugs directly into the
motherboard, in addition to a 24-pin connector coming from
On 8/24/2012 1:53 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
In actuality I have only used these adapters on low power Atom
motherboards. I am down in the 20 watts of power envelope area. So
for me the single rail is more than enough.
4 pin aux CPU power plug on at Atom board? That's just silly.
My now
On 8/25/2012 9:34 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
OK, if you say so. I guess oempcworld.com is trying to sell me
faster memory than I really need. I was confused by PC1600 vs
PC2100.
IIRC PC1600 is DDR200. PC2100 is DDR266. Identical memory certified
for different frequencies. That Intel
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
On 8/24/2012 1:53 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
In actuality I have only used these adapters on low power Atom
motherboards. I am down in the 20 watts of power envelope area. So
for me the single rail is more than enough.
4 pin aux CPU power plug on at Atom board?
On 8/23/2012 7:28 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 03:07:49 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-14-PC1600-DDR-200-Registered-ECC-1GB-Server-Memory-Micron-Samsung-/130718246446?pt=US_Memory_RAM_hash=item1e6f6a262e
Hmm. I'm not even sure if this is
On 8/24/2012 12:57 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
As long as the PSU has the 4-pin CPU power plug, and it should being a
Xeon board, you shouldn't need to replace anything else. And you've
basically got a brand new system, sans drives, for $110-135.
I
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 06:16:12 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
I don't see the 4-pin CPU power plug to which you refer coming out
of the power supply. (Yes, I finally broke down and took the cover
off.) Of course, it does have several spare 4-pin power connectors
On 8/24/2012 6:54 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 06:16:12 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
I don't see the 4-pin CPU power plug to which you refer coming out
of the power supply. (Yes, I finally broke down and took the cover
off.) Of course, it does
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
Most newer motherboards now require this addtional power connector.
But if your power supply does not provide one then you can add an
adaptor and convert one of the 4-pin power connectors to the ATX12V
4-pin motherboard power connector. That works
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
You could probably get away without connecting the 4 pin aux CPU power
on the Foxconn board if using a 65w or lower CPU. I've never tried it.
But I don't find anything in the manual that says the board won't post
with it disconnected. Many newer boards won't power up
On 8/22/2012 10:16 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
Now, my next step is to figure out what memory SIMMs to order.
I'd like to install four 1G SIMMs, if they exist for this motherboard.
But the devil is in the details.
DIMMs not SIMMs. ;) SIMMs haven't been used in new systems for
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 03:07:49 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
Now, my next step is to figure out what memory SIMMs to order.
I'd like to install four 1G SIMMs, if they exist for this motherboard.
But the devil is in the details.
DIMMs not SIMMs. ;) SIMMs haven't been
Stephen Powell wrote:
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
As long as the PSU has the 4-pin CPU power plug, and it should being a
Xeon board, you shouldn't need to replace anything else. And you've
basically got a brand new system, sans drives, for $110-135.
I don't see the 4-pin CPU power plug to
On 8/21/2012 9:04 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:18:52 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Yep. CPUID 0F27 makes this CPU a Prestonia Xeon, 130nm, in essence a
Northwood P4, the only difference being the model#, CPUID, and branding.
Intel introduced EM64T (x86-64) with the
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 04:41:26 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
On 8/21/2012 9:04 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
Stan, Stan, the hardware man! I knew you'd know! Where did you find
the information that correlates CPUIDs with processor characteristics?
Simplicity. Google CPUID 0F27. First hit
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012, Stephen Powell wrote:
Hmm. Well, it appears that CPUIDs are not unique. I've done some more
No, indeed they're not. But there is no 64-bit processor with CPUID
0F27h. Fortunately, there are precious few cpuids that are shared by 32
and 64-bit processors.
The CPUID of
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:18:52 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Yep. CPUID 0F27 makes this CPU a Prestonia Xeon, 130nm, in essence a
Northwood P4, the only difference being the model#, CPUID, and branding.
Intel introduced EM64T (x86-64) with the 90nm chips.
This CPU is 32bit x86 only.
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