Re: [TOTALLY OFFTOPIC] Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 15 mar 21, 17:21:39, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > At last report: normal desktop Ryzens (nothing with a G suffix > > unless it also has a PRO marking) > > Do you have a reliable source for the lack of ECC support in G suffix > processors? > > And why would it work

Re: [TOTALLY OFFTOPIC] Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 15 mar 21, 17:21:39, Dan Ritter wrote: > > At last report: normal desktop Ryzens (nothing with a G suffix > unless it also has a PRO marking) Do you have a reliable source for the lack of ECC support in G suffix processors? And why would it work for PRO processors instead? I think

Re: [TOTALLY OFFTOPIC] Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Anssi Saari wrote: > Dan Ritter writes: > > As for the ECC support in Ryzen CPUs, as I understand it it's a bit of a > mess. Sure the CPUs support it but if it's not validated by motherboard > manufacturers, how do you know it actually works reliably? ... by trying it out and reporting the

Re: [TOTALLY OFFTOPIC] Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Dan Ritter writes: > Intel knew that their argument was bull: they owned the market > and needed ways of subdividing their CPUs to fit every price > point. Turning off ECC support was one of those ways. > That strategy started with the 80486, when they brought out a > cheap version called the

Re: [TOTALLY OFFTOPIC] Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Sven Hartge wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > From a purely technical perspective, it's hard to understand how Intel > > managed to pour so much energy into such an obviously bad idea. The > > only explanations seem all to be linked to market strategies. > > This history repeats for Intel

Re: [TOTALLY OFFTOPIC] Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Sven Hartge
Stefan Monnier wrote: > From a purely technical perspective, it's hard to understand how Intel > managed to pour so much energy into such an obviously bad idea. The > only explanations seem all to be linked to market strategies. This history repeats for Intel on several fronts: Look at the