WAS: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ).. NOW~~The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox format to store emails. It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a certain size? or a certain amount of emails per folder etc? The last

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 02:18:40PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > eben@cerberus:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 > linux-image-amd64: > Installed: (none) > Candidate: 6.1.90-1 > What am I doing wrong? You haven't installed the linux-image-amd64 metapackage, which means you will not be

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
James H. H. Lampert wrote: I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an email reader that's named after a cheap wine. In my experience, T-Bird is the worst email reader I've ever used . . . except for *every other* email reader (without a single exception) I've tried.

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 01:11:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 10:32:16 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > duhs() ( > > shopt -s dotglob > > printf '%s\0' "${1:-.}"/*/ | xargs -0 du -sh > > ) > > > > I'm not personally fond of this. It's extremely easy to overlook >

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Bret Busby wrote: > On 4/6/24 00:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an email > > reader that's named after a cheap wine. > > > > ? USA-centric reference. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavored_fortified_wine -dsr-

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Lee
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 2:14 PM Bret Busby wrote: > > On 4/6/24 00:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an email > > reader that's named after a cheap wine. > > ? Thunderbird wine was extremely inexpensive and 42 proof. In retrospect I'm

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 10:32:16 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > I'll also throw in one last piece of information because if I don't, > someone else is likely to do it, without a good explanation. > Syntactically, the body of a shell function doesn't have to be enclosed > in curly braces. The body

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 09:40, Tom Browder wrote: I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in kernels 5.14 through 6.6. I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 On 6/3/24 09:40, Tom Browder wrote: I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel

Re: Arranque muy lento con SSD

2024-06-03 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
El lunes, 3 de junio de 2024, 01:42:35 p. m. ART, escribió: Hola. Tengo un ordenador portátil Acer Aspire 5732ZG que ya tiene unos catorce años. Hasta ahora estaba funcionando con Windows 7 y para lo que lo utilizaba (ver películas y escuchar música) me sobraba. Pero como el lector de DVD

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/6/24 00:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an email reader that's named after a cheap wine. ? Bret Busby Armadale Western Australia (UTC+0800) .

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 02:36:43PM +, Andy Smith wrote: [...] > If that's the only thing you're using unbuffer for, why not just use > the -C option of tree? It's a bit like the "--color=always" of ls. Oh, and the complementary option for `less', while we're at it, would be -R: tree -C |

Arranque muy lento con SSD

2024-06-03 Thread jerigondor78
Hola. Tengo un ordenador portátil Acer Aspire 5732ZG que ya tiene unos catorce años. Hasta ahora estaba funcionando con Windows 7 y para lo que lo utilizaba (ver películas y escuchar música) me sobraba. Pero como el lector de DVD empezaba a fallar, decidí eliminarlo e instalar un SSD. Y ya de

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Jun 2024 11:29 -0500, from tom.brow...@gmail.com (Tom Browder): > Thanks for your concern and help. You're welcome. Glad you got it sorted. -- Michael Kjörling  https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 09:15 Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > On 3 Jun 2024 08:40 -0500, from tom.brow...@gmail.com (Tom Browder): > > I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in > > kernels 5.14 through 6.6. > > > > I have not seen any updates and uname

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Jun 2024 09:51 -0500, from tom.brow...@gmail.com (Tom Browder): > But another remote host seems to have the same problem. Each host comes > from a different provider and had slightly different default pinnings in > '/etc/apt/sources.list'. > > I'll double-check my pinnings. Try: apt-cache

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread James H. H. Lampert
I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an email reader that's named after a cheap wine. In my experience, T-Bird is the worst email reader I've ever used . . . except for *every other* email reader (without a single exception) I've tried. I'm particularly irritated

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-03 Thread David Christensen
On 6/2/24 21:35, DdB wrote: Am 02.06.2024 um 02:41 schrieb DdB: Will share my findings, once i made more progress... Here is what i've got before utilizing it: datakanja@PBuster-NFox:/mnt/tmp$ cat test #!/bin/bash -e # testing usefulness of coprocess to control host and backup machine from

Re: alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 10:34, Dan Ritter wrote: Paul Scott wrote: (Debian sid) Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? Settings -> Window Manager -> Keyboard Find "Switch window for same application". Tap "Edit" Type alt ~ Try it out. Ah, by default it's ctrl-alt-tab. -- He who

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 09:15 Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: ... > > I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 > ... > Something's broken on your end. ... Check your apt pins to ensure that you're not > blocking too much. Thanks, Michael. My system is a

Re: alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul Scott wrote: > (Debian sid) > > Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? Settings -> Window Manager -> Keyboard Find "Switch window for same application". Tap "Edit" Type alt ~ Try it out. -dsr-

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 03:52:54PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > "tree" detects that its std output goes through a pipe and > therefore it disables the escaped code to colorize (like also > "dmesg" does). To avoid this behavior you must use the "unbuffer" > command: > > unbuffer tree --du

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 03:52:54PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 31/05/24 at 22:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > It could be improved adding the "-a" switch to show also the hidden > > > directories and the "--color" switch to the "grep" command but this sadly > > > doesn't show the expected

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 03:52:54PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > > > > > > ~$ tree --du -Fah /tmp/x | grep --color /$ > > You're only coloring the trailing / characters. If you want everything > > from after the last space to the end of the line, you'd want: > > > > tree --du -Fh

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Jun 2024 08:40 -0500, from tom.brow...@gmail.com (Tom Browder): > I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in > kernels 5.14 through 6.6. > > I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 Something's broken on your end. Bookworm is currently at ABI

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Franco Martelli
Hi Greg, (sorry for the answer's late but I turn off the PC during the weekend) :( On 31/05/24 at 22:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: It could be improved adding the "-a" switch to show also the hidden directories and the "--color" switch to the "grep" command but this sadly doesn't show the expected

Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Tom Browder
I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in kernels 5.14 through 6.6. I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 Anyone concerned? -Tom

Re: alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 02:50, Paul Scott wrote: (Debian sid) Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? alt-tilde in XFCE does nothing, at least in my installation (XFCE 4.18) -- Driscoll's Observation: The product of the IQs of each member of a tech-support conversation is a

Re: configuração de teclado

2024-06-03 Thread ayf
Tente o seguinte comando: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration Tenho anotado mais os seguintes comandos, mas não lembro se precisei usar: service keyboard-setup restart udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change Em 02/06/2024 21:09, Galileu H. Oliveira escreveu: Pessoal, Não

Re: script ocaml utilisant module Unix

2024-06-03 Thread didier gaumet
Le 03/06/2024 à 11:31, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : Bonjour la liste Sur mon système Debian Testing j'ai % /usr/bin/ocaml --version   The OCaml toplevel, version 4.14.1 Sans utiliser opam je voudrais améliorer dans

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat Jun 1, 2024 at 8:20 AM BST, DdB wrote: > for years have i been using a self-made backup script, that did mount a > drive via USB, performed all kinds of plausibility checks, before > actually backing up incrementally. Finally verifying success and logging > the activities while kicking the

script ocaml utilisant module Unix

2024-06-03 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
Bonjour la liste Sur mon système Debian Testing j'ai % /usr/bin/ocaml --version   The OCaml toplevel, version 4.14.1 Sans utiliser opam je voudrais améliorer dans https://github.com/RefPerSys/RefPerSys/commit/dbf79c52dafd6b26d028c407c7339d1645ad8479 le script Create-RefPerSys.ocaml

Re: (Oftopic) documentación completamente obsoleta

2024-06-03 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-03 a las 04:24 +, Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena escribió: > EN PRINCIPIO: Disculpen el TOP Posting > Todavía NO encontré la forma de que el editor de Yahoo Mail pueda hacer el > quoteo como manda la lista. > Perdonen. (...) ? Hombre... Si el editor «no puede», pues lo haces tú

alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-03 Thread Paul Scott
(Debian sid) Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? TIA, Paul

Re: (Oftopic) documentación completamente obsoleta

2024-06-03 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-02 a las 21:34 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió: > Hola, debo decir que para ser uno de los sistemas operativos más > usados del mundo, tiene una horrible gestión de la documentación. Peor aún es cuando quieres colaborar para subsanar o mejorar este tipo de cosas (documentación

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.06.2024 um 02:41 schrieb DdB: > Will share my findings, once i made more progress... Here is what i've got before utilizing it: > datakanja@PBuster-NFox:/mnt/tmp$ cat test > #!/bin/bash -e > # testing usefulness of coprocess to control host and backup machine from a > single script. > #

Re: (Oftopic) documentación completamente obsoleta

2024-06-02 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
EN PRINCIPIO: Disculpen el TOP Posting Todavía NO encontré la forma de que el editor de Yahoo Mail pueda hacer el quoteo como manda la lista. Perdonen. Mira... Debian NO sé (digo que NO sé, no que no lo sea) si es el SO más usados en el mundo. A mi me "parece" que es Windows. PERO... por lo

Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/06/2024 00:19, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:16, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:09, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:06, Bret Busby wrote: On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: For example: New question [WAS Old topic] Are square brackets

Re: configuração de teclado

2024-06-02 Thread Carlos Henrique Lima Melara
Oi, G.Paulo. On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 03:51:09PM GMT, Galileu H. Oliveira wrote: > Tenho Trixie instalado num notebook HP, mas estou com problemas no > teclado, tanto no do laptop quanto num Logitec wifi externo. > Quando uso a interface gráfica, tudo vai bem e a configuração no Gnome é >

Re: (Oftopic) documentación completamente obsoleta

2024-06-02 Thread N4ch0
On Sun Jun 2, 2024 at 4:34 PM -03, Juan carlos Rebate wrote: > Hola, debo decir que para ser uno de los sistemas operativos más > usados del mundo, tiene una horrible gestión de la documentación. > Tengo un problema de configuración de apache y la wiki aún hace > referencia a php 5 en lugar de php

Re: configuração de teclado

2024-06-02 Thread Galileu H. Oliveira
Pessoal, Não tive resposta, então vou insistir: alguém pode me ajudar a reconfigurar o teclado? O laptop é um HP com teclado brasileiro do tipo comum (cada computador tem um teclado um pouco diferente, então é um teclado brasileiro comum mesmo; não dá para ser mais específico). Após algumas

Re: (Oftopic) documentación completamente obsoleta

2024-06-02 Thread Francisco Cid
El dom, 2 jun 2024 a la(s) 3:35 p.m., Juan carlos Rebate (nerus...@gmail.com) escribió: > Hola, debo decir que para ser uno de los sistemas operativos más > usados del mundo, tiene una horrible gestión de la documentación. > Tengo un problema de configuración de apache y la wiki aún hace >

Re: SeaMonkey et al - was - Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M
Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 04:14, Chris M wrote: Felix Miata wrote: It might be worth checking what language the emails are in. Thunderbird allows you to specify fonts separately for each writing system (e.g. if you want to specify fonts for Japanese or Greek or Khmer messages, you can

Re: [ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M
Bret Busby wrote: Hello, Chris. We appear to be 13 hours ahead of you (see my signature), so, the time here, is now about 0430. I am a creature of the night. OH man, 4:30 AM! That's way too early for me! Andika?  Search for it in Synaptic... :) I am not sure whether

SeaMonkey et al - was - Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 04:14, Chris M wrote: Felix Miata wrote: It might be worth checking what language the emails are in. Thunderbird allows you to specify fonts separately for each writing system (e.g. if you want to specify fonts for Japanese or Greek or Khmer messages, you can do). For English and

Re: [ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 03:56, Chris M wrote: Bret Busby wrote: Whilst, at groups.io, two different Tbird email users lists exist; one for blind people, and, the other, for those of us who still have sufficient sight, and, these messages about Tbird, should, more properly, be directed to the Tbird users

[ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M
Felix Miata wrote: It might be worth checking what language the emails are in. Thunderbird allows you to specify fonts separately for each writing system (e.g. if you want to specify fonts for Japanese or Greek or Khmer messages, you can do). For English and comparable languages, you want to

[ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M
Bret Busby wrote: For Language Choose the languages used to display menus, messages, and notifications from Thunderbird. I have set English (GB) which, I expect, will confound anything that tries to impose characters that are not what I want. Bret Busby Armadale Western Australia

[ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M
Darac Marjal wrote: It might be worth checking what language the emails are in. Thunderbird allows you to specify fonts separately for each writing system (e.g. if you want to specify fonts for Japanese or Greek or Khmer messages, you can do). For English and comparable languages, you want to

[ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M
Bret Busby wrote: Whilst, at groups.io, two different Tbird email users lists exist; one for blind people, and, the other, for those of us who still have sufficient sight, and, these messages about Tbird, should, more properly, be directed to the Tbird users lists, try the following. In

[ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M
UPDATE: I might of found a solution to my problem: I somehow stumbled across: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/no-small-text/?src=search Then launched Seamonkey browser and set the " NO SMALL TEXT" settings to: https://imgur.com/a/DvJaTeG If you're in the US scroll down

Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Felix Miata
Darac Marjal composed on 2024-06-02T20:01 (UTC+0100): > Chris M wrote: >> I noticed that in SeaMonkey Mail's latest version 2.53.18.2 that the >> text is small in SOME emails, and in some emails its fine. And I can't >> figure out what to change to make the text a little bigger without >>

(Oftopic) documentación completamente obsoleta

2024-06-02 Thread Juan carlos Rebate
Hola, debo decir que para ser uno de los sistemas operativos más usados del mundo, tiene una horrible gestión de la documentación. Tengo un problema de configuración de apache y la wiki aún hace referencia a php 5 en lugar de php 8 que es el soportado ahora. Existe alguna forma de obtener

Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 03:01, Darac Marjal wrote: On 02/06/2024 19:03, Chris M wrote: I noticed that in SeaMonkey Mail's latest version 2.53.18.2 that the text is small in SOME emails, and in some emails its fine. And I can't figure out what to change to make the text a little bigger without having to

Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Darac Marjal
On 02/06/2024 19:03, Chris M wrote: I noticed that in SeaMonkey Mail's latest version 2.53.18.2 that the text is small in SOME emails, and in some emails its fine. And I can't figure out what to change to make the text a little bigger without having to use CTRL ++ on those certain emails.

Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 02:47, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 02:31, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/2/24 14:03, Chris M wrote: I noticed that in SeaMonkey Mail's latest version 2.53.18.2 that the text is small in SOME emails, and in some emails its fine. And I can't figure out what to change to make the text a

Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 02:31, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/2/24 14:03, Chris M wrote: I noticed that in SeaMonkey Mail's latest version 2.53.18.2 that the text is small in SOME emails, and in some emails its fine. And I can't figure out what to change to make the text a little bigger without having to use CTRL

Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread eben
On 6/2/24 14:03, Chris M wrote: I noticed that in SeaMonkey Mail's latest version 2.53.18.2 that the text is small in SOME emails, and in some emails its fine. And I can't figure out what to change to make the text a little bigger without having to use CTRL ++ on those certain emails. Any ideas

Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M
I noticed that in SeaMonkey Mail's latest version 2.53.18.2 that the text is small in SOME emails, and in some emails its fine. And I can't figure out what to change to make the text a little bigger without having to use CTRL ++ on those certain emails. Any ideas on how? Here is an example:

Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 01:16, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:09, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:06, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 00:52, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the

Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 01:09, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:06, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 00:52, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email

Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 01:06, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 00:52, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email accordingly so that this can be clearly seen.

Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 00:52, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. For example: New question [WAS Old

Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501))

2024-06-02 Thread eben
On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. For example: New question [WAS Old topic] Are square brackets

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-02 Thread Richard
If it where an issue with pip or pipx, yes. But as you pointed out yourself, it's also happening on OpenSuse, so the issue can't be pip or pipx, but rather either what you are trying to install or your understanding of it. Am So., 2. Juni 2024 um 14:20 Uhr schrieb Richmond : > I am not

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-02 Thread Richmond
Richard writes: > python3 -m venv venv > source venv/bin/activate > pip install musicpy OK thanks. And apparently to get idle working I do: python -m idlelib.idle

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-02 Thread Richmond
Richard writes: > That's how its done. Also, complaining here about something that > doesn't even work on other distros and thus can't be a Debian > problem doesn't make that much sense. I am not complaining, I am trying to find out how to get it working. And as pip (and pipx) are debian

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-02 Thread Richard
python3 -m venv venv source venv/bin/activate pip install musicpy That's how its done. Also, complaining here about something that doesn't even work on other distros and thus can't be a Debian problem doesn't make that much sense. Am So., 2. Juni 2024 um 13:50 Uhr schrieb Richmond : > OK Back

Re: Help! secure boot is preventing boot of debian

2024-06-02 Thread Richmond
"Thomas Schmitt" writes: > Hi, > > Richmond wrote: >> OK I got it booted and re-installed grub from debian. But I don't >> know why it happened, I haven't changed any keys or done anything >> except an opensuse update. I will ask the opensuse list > > I remember to have seen discussions

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-02 Thread Richmond
OK Back on Debian, I removed the one package installed with pipx, which was musicpy, then tried to install it with pip, but got this message which actually tells me to use pipx. (There is no package python-musicpy). pip install musicpy error: externally-managed-environment × This environment is

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-02 Thread Richmond
Richard wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, 23:50 Richmond > wrote: > > Richard mailto:rrosn...@gmail.com>> writes: > > > A packages documentation is always your best > friend: https://pypi.org > > /project/idle/ > > > > Yes it makes it look easy

Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501))

2024-06-02 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 10:02:58AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > If you change subject > > or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email > > accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. > > > > For example: New question

Re: Help! secure boot is preventing boot of debian

2024-06-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richmond wrote: > OK I got it booted and re-installed grub from debian. But I don't know > why it happened, I haven't changed any keys or done anything except an > opensuse update. I will ask the opensuse list I remember to have seen discussions about newly installed shim adding names of

Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 2/6/24 11:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 10:02:58AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. For

Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 2/6/24 11:13, Bret Busby wrote: On 2/6/24 11:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 10:02:58AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email accordingly so that

Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501))

2024-06-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 10:02:58AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > If you change subject > > or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email > > accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. > > > > For example: New question

Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501))

2024-06-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. For example: New question [WAS Old topic] Are square brackets intentional here? E.g. thunderbird strips

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.06.2024 um 16:01 schrieb Greg Wooledge: >> i get the output from ls, but then the thing is hanging indefinitely, >> apparently not reaching the exit line. :( > Your first while loop never terminates. "while read ..." continues > running until read returns a nonzero exit status, either due

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richard
On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, 23:50 Richmond wrote: > Richard writes: > > > A packages documentation is always your best friend: https://pypi.org > > /project/idle/ > > > > Yes it makes it look easy there, but: > > import idle > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > File

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richmond
Richard writes: > A packages documentation is always your best friend: https://pypi.org > /project/idle/ > Yes it makes it look easy there, but: import idle Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File ".local/pipx/shared/lib/python3.11/site-packages/idle.py", line 4, in

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richard
A packages documentation is always your best friend: https://pypi.org/project/idle/ Also, python script isn't a necessarily a standalone executable. And also, you shouldn't just wildly mix pipx commands with pip commands if you don't know what you are doing. Either create a venv with python3 -m

Re[2]: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-06-01 Thread Michael Grant
Dan Ritter wrote: The web browser technology called WebRTC does that quite well, but for security reasons -- nobody wants a self-perpetuating worm -- you need an intermediary device to introduce the two participants but not to actually transfer the file. And so there is snapdrop.net, which you

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richmond
Richard writes: > Pretty much just what pipx does. > Well I don't know how. Now I need to run idle in my new environment. I have installed it .local/pipx/shared/bin/pip install idle and it is here: .local/pipx/shared/lib/python3.11/site-packages/idle.py but I don't know how to run it. I

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richard
Pretty much just what pipx does. On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, 22:00 Richmond wrote: > > I got it working by doing: > > python3 -m venv .local/pipx/venvs/musicpy/ > > .local/pipx/venvs/musicpy/bin/python3.11 > > Then I was able to import musicpy from the python shell. > > How bewildering! > > Thanks. >

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-06-01 Thread Larry Martell
On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:24 AM gene heskett wrote: > Well, since I'm alone, my wife passed 3.5 years back, and was not > computer literate, its my show. And sshfs Just Works. I use this machine > as the src for my output for some 3d printers, although the 4 linuxcnc > machines are largely

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On 6/1/24 06:07, Michael Grant wrote: I use sshfs, works great to let me drop files on my server from my desktop. But I wouldn't call that "file sharing".  I probably would call that a "network disk" or "remote mount". There's probably some formal definition out there, but when I think of

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-01 Thread David Christensen
On 6/1/24 00:20, DdB wrote: Hello, for years have i been using a self-made backup script, that did mount a drive via USB, performed all kinds of plausibility checks, before actually backing up incrementally. Finally verifying success and logging the activities while kicking the ISB drive out.

Re: Help! secure boot is preventing boot of debian

2024-06-01 Thread Richmond
Marco Moock writes: > Am 01.06.2024 um 20:01:43 Uhr schrieb Richmond: > >> Should I disable secure boot temporarily? will that allow booting? > > That should allow booting it. > > Have you changed anything at the keys in the EFI (maybe UEFI > firmware update)? OK I got it booted and

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richmond
Richard writes: > That's the point of venv's. pipx runpip should do the trick. Or the > classic way: source path/to/venv/bin/activate. That way you activate > the position virtual environment (venv) created in that directory > with all packages installed in that venv. > I got it working by

Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501)

2024-06-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
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Re: Help! secure boot is preventing boot of debian

2024-06-01 Thread Marco Moock
Am 01.06.2024 um 20:01:43 Uhr schrieb Richmond: > Should I disable secure boot temporarily? will that allow booting? That should allow booting it. Have you changed anything at the keys in the EFI (maybe UEFI firmware update)? -- Gruß Marco Send unsolicited bulk mail to

Help! secure boot is preventing boot of debian

2024-06-01 Thread Richmond
I have a PC with two operating systems installed, Debian, and Opensuse. Both are installed with Secure Boot. Each has its own grub installation. Normally I boot debian, and if I want to boot opensuse I select UEFI settings from the main menu and select opensuse from there which launches the

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richard
That's the point of venv's. pipx runpip should do the trick. Or the classic way: source path/to/venv/bin/activate. That way you activate the position virtual environment (venv) created in that directory with all packages installed in that venv. Richard On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, 19:10 Richmond wrote:

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richmond
Richard writes: > Looking at the package, no wonder it fails. musicpy doesn't contain > anything that can be executed. So pipx run can't work for obvious > reasons. You'll have to install it with pipx install and use it in a > python script. > > https://pypi.org/project/musicpy/ > OK so I have

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richard
Looking at the package, no wonder it fails. musicpy doesn't contain anything that can be executed. So pipx run can't work for obvious reasons. You'll have to install it with pipx install and use it in a python script. https://pypi.org/project/musicpy/ Richard On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, 18:40 Richmond

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richmond
Richard writes: > If you haven't closed the terminal window/logged out, you need to run > source .bashrc. Running pipx ensurepath should have said something > like that. Yes, I did this: > > (logged out and in to get updated PATH)

Re: Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richard
If you haven't closed the terminal window/logged out, you need to run source .bashrc. Running pipx ensurepath should have said something like that. Richard On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, 18:10 Richmond wrote: > I have been trying to install this: > > https://pypi.org/project/musicpy/#description > >

Installing a python package with pipx

2024-06-01 Thread Richmond
I have been trying to install this: https://pypi.org/project/musicpy/#description with not much success. I have done these: sudo aptitude install pip sudo aptitude install pipx pipx ensurepath pipx install --include-deps musicpy (logged out and in to get updated PATH) pipx run musicpy

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-01 Thread Lee
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 11:18 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 09:35:59PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > If a coloured ] is unimportant, I suppose you could use: > > > > tree --du -Fh whatever | grep --color '][[:space:]][[:space:]].*/$' > > You don't need to count spaces.

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-06-01 Thread Joe
On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 10:06:43 + "Michael Grant" wrote: > > To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file > between 2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say > getting one to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the > file between local ip

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 09:20:59AM +0200, DdB wrote: > > #!/bin/bash -e > > > > coproc { bash; } > > exec 5<&${COPROC[0]} 6>&${COPROC[1]} > > fd=5 > > > > echo "ls" >&6 > > while IFS= read -ru $fd line > > do > > printf '%s\n' "$line" > > done > > > > printf "%s\n" "sleep 3;exit" >&6 > >

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