Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Wed 05 Oct 2016 at 15:10:42 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 14:40:44 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 22:02:05 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:31:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 20:54:32 +0900, Mark

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 14:40:44 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 22:02:05 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:31:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 20:54:32 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:31:45PM +0100,

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Saturday 01 October 2016 20:45:52 Brian wrote: > "Please pass the Houses of Parliament sauce" *is* a bit of a mouthful. > Thank goodness for acronyms. :-)) Lisi

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 23:42:17 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 30 September 2016 19:25:52 Brian wrote: > > Maintaining that CUPS is an official acronym for "Common Unix Printing > > System" has, so far, not been substantiated. > > Brian, do drop it. No-one, but no-one, has claimed it is

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Sat 01 Oct 2016 at 06:03:08 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Apple, unfortunately, seems bent on doing a microsoft to cups. You are being provocative, aren't you? Quite unlike your usual self. :) * CUPS has not changed from being GPL. * Upstream CUPS is very responsive. * Upstream CUPS

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Sat 01 Oct 2016 at 23:05:58 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 02:28:30PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > Regarding the darker colors with the Gutenprint driver: does setting > > Color Model to CMYK make any difference? > > > Out of curiosity I tried that last night. Actually

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 02:28:30PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sat 01 Oct 2016 at 08:34:34 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > Libtiff4 is a little bit more interesting. "aptitude why" says that it > > is installed because the Canon printer driver needs it (by the way > > libjpeg8 did *not* say that

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Sat 01 Oct 2016 at 08:34:34 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > Libtiff4 is a little bit more interesting. "aptitude why" says that it > is installed because the Canon printer driver needs it (by the way > libjpeg8 did *not* say that the Canon printer driver needed it) and > nothing else. So I'm

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Saturday 01 October 2016 04:32:31 Brian wrote: > On Sat 01 Oct 2016 at 00:39:35 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 22:48:38 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 17:00:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:49:23PM -0500, David Wright

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Saturday 01 October 2016 01:39:35 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 22:48:38 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 17:00:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:49:23PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > "CUPS is the standards-based, open source

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Sat 01 Oct 2016 at 00:39:35 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 22:48:38 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 17:00:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:49:23PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > "CUPS is the standards-based, open

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 22:48:38 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 17:00:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:49:23PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > "CUPS is the standards-based, open source printing system developed by > > > Apple Inc. for macOS® and other

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 06:10:43PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 22:31:24 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > This is what I did although in practice neither apt-get -f install nor > > Wheezy were needed. > > Strange. cnijfilter-ix6500series_3.50-1_amd64.deb depends on libtiff4, >

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Friday 30 September 2016 19:25:52 Brian wrote: > Maintaining that CUPS is an official acronym for "Common Unix Printing > System" has, so far, not been substantiated. Brian, do drop it. No-one, but no-one, has claimed it is the *official*name. It can't be because of the trademark problem.

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 17:00:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:49:23PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > "CUPS is the standards-based, open source printing system developed by > > Apple Inc. for macOS® and other UNIX®-like operating systems." > > > > which is stretching the

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 19:25:52 +0100 Brian sent: > That is a very good point. If you were to ask xorg upstream why the X > Window system is called "X Window" it is possible you would be told > that it is the successor to the W Window system. This doesn't tell you > exactly what it does but it does

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:49:23PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > "CUPS is the standards-based, open source printing system developed by > Apple Inc. for macOS® and other UNIX®-like operating systems." > > which is stretching the truth IMHO, given the normal meaning of "for", > "and", and "other",

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 14:40:44 (+0100), Brian wrote: > The Internet might want CUPS to mean "Common Unix Printing System"; it > could organise a day of protest demanding CUPS to mean "Common Unix > Printing System"; it could sell tee shirts saying "CUPS - the Common > Unix Printing System". That

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 11:12:25 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, September 30, 2016 10:46:16 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > We are talking about right now. The name CUPS is clearly an acronym > > that stands for Common Unix Printing System (or "UNIX" if you prefer). > > Everyone who

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Friday 30 September 2016 11:37:13 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 30 September 2016 16:12:59 Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:51:27 +0100 > > > > Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 15:28:01 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Friday 30 September

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 22:31:24 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 06:05:27PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 00:03:38 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > > Anyway will finish trying to understand that shell script later -- it > > > wants me to run it as root, no

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 18:12:59 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:51:27 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > ESP called it the "Common Unix Printing System". Apple doesn't. Why > > should the wishes (and rights) of one company be respected but not those > > of another? > >

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Friday 30 September 2016 16:12:59 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:51:27 +0100 > > Brian wrote: > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 15:28:01 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 30 September 2016 14:55:07 Brian wrote: > > > > It does indeed say this. The "C"

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 10:20:52 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Brian wrote: > > The People can continue to say what they want but it does not change > > the fact that the official name of the software is CUPS. > > The salesmen can continue to say what they have to in order to comply > with trademark

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 11:00:13 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:51:27PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > The People > > can continue to say what they want but it does not change the fact that > > the official name of the software is CUPS. > > Yes, that is the new Official Name.

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

rhkramer writes: > Aside: If I'm in court, and the judge threatens to cite me for > contempt if I say Common Unix Printing System, I'm not sure what I'll > do ;-) Won't happen (in the USA). The judge will know the law. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

Brian wrote: > The People can continue to say what they want but it does not change > the fact that the official name of the software is CUPS. The salesmen can continue to say what they have to in order to comply with trademark law but the real name of the software is the Common Unix Printing

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

Hi. On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:51:27 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 15:28:01 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 30 September 2016 14:55:07 Brian wrote: > > > It does indeed say this. The "C" is not equated anywhere with "Common". > > > > No. That

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Friday, September 30, 2016 10:46:16 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > We are talking about right now. The name CUPS is clearly an acronym > that stands for Common Unix Printing System (or "UNIX" if you prefer). > Everyone who uses CUPS knows this. It's the dirty little secret that > Apple can no

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 10:46:16 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:37:55PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 16:20:03 +0200, Frank wrote: > > > It is. Check (most of) the entries in the blog at > > > https://www.cups.org/blog.html from 10 Jul 2000 to 15 Dec 2008.

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:51:27PM +0100, Brian wrote: > The People > can continue to say what they want but it does not change the fact that > the official name of the software is CUPS. Yes, that is the new Official Name. Nobody(*) gives a flying leap what the Official Name is. The question

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 15:28:01 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 30 September 2016 14:55:07 Brian wrote: > > It does indeed say this. The "C" is not equated anywhere with "Common". > > No. That is why I said "most of it", not "all of it". It isn't *any* of it. > If we are talking about

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:37:55PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 16:20:03 +0200, Frank wrote: > > It is. Check (most of) the entries in the blog at > > https://www.cups.org/blog.html from 10 Jul 2000 to 15 Dec 2008. > > I thought it was obvious we were talking about now, not the

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 16:20:03 +0200, Frank wrote: > Op 30-09-16 om 15:55 schreef Brian: > >It does indeed say this. The "C" is not equated anywhere with "Common". > > It is. Check (most of) the entries in the blog at > https://www.cups.org/blog.html from 10 Jul 2000 to 15 Dec 2008. I thought

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Friday 30 September 2016 14:55:07 Brian wrote: > It does indeed say this. The "C" is not equated anywhere with "Common". No. That is why I said "most of it", not "all of it". If we are talking about British Institutions ... Do you even remember Consignia??? Did you even for one moment

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

Op 30-09-16 om 15:55 schreef Brian: It does indeed say this. The "C" is not equated anywhere with "Common". It is. Check (most of) the entries in the blog at https://www.cups.org/blog.html from 10 Jul 2000 to 15 Dec 2008. Regards, Frank

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 09:28:15 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 02:20:43PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:31:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > The "U" in CUPS officially doesn't stand for anything. The same applies > > > > to the "C", "P" and "S". >

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 14:20:43 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 30 September 2016 14:02:05 Mark Fletcher wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:31:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 20:54:32 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:31:45PM +0100, Lisi

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 22:02:05 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:31:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 20:54:32 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:31:45PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Thursday 29 September 2016 16:03:38

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 06:05:27PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 00:03:38 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > Anyway will finish trying to understand that shell script later -- it > > wants me to run it as root, no way I am doing that until I have > > satisfied myself I know roughly

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 02:20:43PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:31:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > The "U" in CUPS officially doesn't stand for anything. The same applies > > > to the "C", "P" and "S". > It also says most of it, definitely that U stands for Unix, on the

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Friday 30 September 2016 14:02:05 Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:31:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 20:54:32 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:31:45PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Thursday 29 September 2016 16:03:38 Mark

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:31:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 20:54:32 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:31:45PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Thursday 29 September 2016 16:03:38 Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > which I find ironic > > > > considering

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 20:54:32 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:31:45PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 29 September 2016 16:03:38 Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > which I find ironic > > > considering what the U of CUPS stands for > > > > Why? MacOSX is Unix based

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:31:45PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 29 September 2016 16:03:38 Mark Fletcher wrote: > > which I find ironic > > considering what the U of CUPS stands for > > Why? MacOSX is Unix based (via BSD) and CUPS is supposed to be common to all > Unices (though I

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Thursday 29 September 2016 16:03:38 Mark Fletcher wrote: > which I find ironic > considering what the U of CUPS stands for Why? MacOSX is Unix based (via BSD) and CUPS is supposed to be common to all Unices (though I have only used it on Linux and MacOSX). Lisi

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 00:03:38 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:25:19AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > You should now be able to compare the outputs of the Gutenprint and > > Canon drivers. Color management support is done by cups-filters > > (completed in Aug 2014) so it will be

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:25:19AM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 28 Sep 2016 at 07:43:54 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > Sorry Brian, I think some confusion there due to my phrasing in the > > original post. There is, to my knowledge, no Canon-supplied Linux CUPS > > driver for this printer.

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Wed 28 Sep 2016 at 07:43:54 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:53:11PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > It wasn't cups-calibrate I was really advocating but the trying out of > > printing a file using the Canon and Gutenprint drivers. Do both give the > > same outcome? > >

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:53:11PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > It wasn't cups-calibrate I was really advocating but the trying out of > printing a file using the Canon and Gutenprint drivers. Do both give the > same outcome? Sorry Brian, I think some confusion there due to my phrasing in the

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Tue 27 Sep 2016 at 08:09:07 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 05:17:40PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > The colour abnormality could be simply be because the Canon driver is > > rubbish at colour management or it needs adjusting. There is a driver in > >

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 07:14:26PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 26 Sep 2016 at 23:50:39 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > ... > > > > The colour abnormality could be simply be because the Canon driver is > > rubbish at colour management or it needs adjusting. There is a driver

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 05:17:40PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > The colour abnormality could be simply be because the Canon driver is > rubbish at colour management or it needs adjusting. There is a driver in > printer-driver-gutenprint which is for your printer; I'd suggest testing > that with the

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

Brian wrote: > On Mon 26 Sep 2016 at 23:50:39 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: ... > > The colour abnormality could be simply be because the Canon driver is > rubbish at colour management or it needs adjusting. There is a driver in > printer-driver-gutenprint which is for your printer; I'd suggest

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

On Mon 26 Sep 2016 at 23:50:39 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > Finally getting around to raising an issue I have faced for years and > never made much inroads into... > > I have a Canon iX6530 A4 / A3 inkjet printer purchased in Japan. It is > connected via a USB cable to my Jessie PC. I have

Canon printer minor quibble

Finally getting around to raising an issue I have faced for years and never made much inroads into... I have a Canon iX6530 A4 / A3 inkjet printer purchased in Japan. It is connected via a USB cable to my Jessie PC. I have the Canon iX6500-series driver installed. It seems to work fine. I