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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 01:00:10PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote:
When I'm waiting to turn left on a median, do I wait on the left edge or
the right edge?
When in doubt, take the lane. Seriously. Taking the lane is
considered a defensive move in Oregon
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 09:36:51PM +, Pigeon wrote:
Recent updates of the Highway Code allow both alternatives; they point
out that offside-to-offside (tangle) turning is safer for the reason
Colin gives, but allow the driver to judge which
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 12:03:53AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
Both are bad -- one way cars have to cross in front of
you, the other way you block visibility for people turning left to the
right of you.
Nobody should be next to you in the lane.
Yes, people coming from the right turning
On Thursday 26 February 2004 00:41, Pigeon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 05:04:26PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 10:46:08PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
It's not too difficult to work out the maximum breaking force that can
be applied before you get thrown onto
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 10:46:08PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 20:15, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On 2004-02-25, Paul Johnson penned:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:16:32PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
As for down hill, I ride quite a bit of free ride, not so much
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 12:06:16AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 09:36:51PM +, Pigeon wrote:
Recent updates of the Highway Code allow both alternatives; they point
out that offside-to-offside (tangle) turning is safer for the reason
Colin gives, but allow the driver
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 09:51:12AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:53:43AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
Its actually wrong also for bicycles. If you skid it takes a much
longer time to stop. Another thing a lot of casual cyclists don't
know is that you actually
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 01:06:10PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 09:53:45AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 10:42:44AM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
I believe the proper technique is to brake harder with the front brakes
and apply enough pressure
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:20:16AM +1100, bob parker wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:36, John Hasler wrote:
s. keeling writes:
Previously, this was accepted behaviour; making backup copies of
originals was just something that was done.
I don't recall anyone making backup copies of books
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:16:32PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
[snip] bike week
Hey, when you're done with that heavy-consumption-of-technology
recreation you can play some centrifugal bumble puppy and a round of
electromagnetic golf at the Charing T.
I like to ride my bicicyle out on the trail
On 2004-02-25, Paul Johnson penned:
It doesn't help that you handle cross-traffic turns (left in the US,
right in GB) by what Americans call tangle turning and is a major
no-no on the west side of the pond...why hold fast to keep left when
it's safer on a right turn at an intersection to keep
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 05:36:46AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:16:32PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
[snip] bike week
Hey, when you're done with that heavy-consumption-of-technology
recreation you can play some centrifugal bumble puppy and a round of
electromagnetic
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:16:32PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
The myth about not touching your front break or you will a spectacular
endo over your handle bar is a nice folk tale but almost completely
wrong. Doing an endo depends on how well you
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:35:14PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
Hardly a ride goes by without me and my bike going out different
directions, and not at a standstill. Every now and again it happens
going over 20, usually a rock waiting by to give me a
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 08:48:55AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
As a USian, I'm really confused by this description of turning. Could
you please explain the term tangle turning?
If you were to perform a tangle turn in the US, when you turn
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 08:48:55AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On 2004-02-25, Paul Johnson penned:
It doesn't help that you handle cross-traffic turns (left in the US,
right in GB) by what Americans call tangle turning and is a major
no-no on the west side of the pond...why hold fast to
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 09:40:01AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
I just keep well-tuned brakes and don't think about it anymore, since
I can pretty close to stop on a dime up to about 20 MPH on my bike
using the rear brake alone.
I don't know about that. Using just the rear break. I can
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:00:03PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
It's a requirement in the UK Highway Code. While Paul decries it on
safety grounds, the rationale is in fact that going around the other
vehicle like this is safer because you can see
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 01:08:25PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
I don't know about that. Using just the rear break. I can completely lock
my back wheel and my bike will keep going (especially downhill). It's
not that the back break is too weak
On 2004-02-25, Paul Johnson penned:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:16:32PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
As for down hill, I ride quite a bit of free ride, not so much
downhill since unfortunately I don't have the money for the big hit
bikes, but the steeper the terrain the more I use the front
On 2004-02-25, Paul Johnson penned:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 08:48:55AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
As a USian, I'm really confused by this description of turning.
Could you please explain the term tangle turning?
If you were to perform a tangle turn in the US, when you turn left,
you
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On 2004-02-25, Paul Johnson penned:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 08:48:55AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
As a USian, I'm really confused by this description of turning.
Could you please explain the term tangle turning?
If you were to perform a tangle turn in
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On 2004-02-25, Paul Johnson penned:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 08:48:55AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
As a USian, I'm really confused by this description of turning.
Could you please explain the term tangle turning?
If you were to perform a tangle turn in
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 07:59:08PM +, stephen parkinson wrote:
actually i think this used to be reccommended behaviour at traffic
lights, but doesn't seem to be the norm now :-(
to do this, it needs some cooperation from the on-coming stream of
traffic, aka intelligence :-)
The
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 20:15, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On 2004-02-25, Paul Johnson penned:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:16:32PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
As for down hill, I ride quite a bit of free ride, not so much
downhill since unfortunately I don't have the money for the big hit
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 10:46:08PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
It's not too difficult to work out the maximum breaking force that can be
applied before you get thrown onto the road.
I believe it is 0.67g. Of course you can't achieve this with the rear
wheel alone so by not using the front
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 01:00:10PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote:
When I'm waiting to turn left on a median, do I wait on the left edge or
the right edge? Both are bad -- one way cars have to cross in front of
you, the other way you block visibility for people turning left to the
right of you.
I
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 10:09:37AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:00:03PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
It's a requirement in the UK Highway Code. While Paul decries it on
safety grounds, the rationale is in fact that going around the other
vehicle like this is safer
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 23:04, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 10:46:08PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
It's not too difficult to work out the maximum breaking force that can be
applied before you get thrown onto the road.
I believe it is 0.67g.
No, it is dependent on
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 05:04:26PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 10:46:08PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
It's not too difficult to work out the maximum breaking force that can be
applied before you get thrown onto the road.
I believe it is 0.67g. Of course you can't
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 12:17:37PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On 2004-02-25, Paul Johnson penned:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 08:48:55AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
As a USian, I'm really confused by this description of turning.
Could
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 10:29:39PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 07:39:13PM +, Pigeon wrote:
It's a long time since I took my car test, and I had no problems with
the emergency stop, but the examiner's instructions were ...without
locking the wheels, so I'd guess
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 11:48:12AM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
Then again, the traction control doesn't work worth a damn either :)
I'd be surprised if that's the case. You can't expect too much from
anything claiming to give you better control. You
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Pigeon wrote:
It's a long time since I took my car test, and I had no problems with
the emergency stop, but the examiner's instructions were ...without
locking the wheels, so I'd guess any kind of lock would be a fail.
Dunno what they do now that ABS is common.
Does
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 10:29:39PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
What I never understood is locally they tell bicyclists that you stop
faster locking the brakes and everybody else to absolutely avoid doing
so. Never mind that if you can stick a fast stop with good brakes, as
hard as you can
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 10:29:39PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
I switch from four wheels to two in the snow and ice if I can.
Nothing like sticking a wicked fishtail peelout going around the
corner on a bicycle...
You might want to check out the icebike mailing list.
They have a website at:
On 2004-02-24, Micha Feigin penned:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 10:29:39PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
What I never understood is locally they tell bicyclists that you stop
faster locking the brakes and everybody else to absolutely avoid
doing
Its actually wrong also for bicycles. If you skid
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:36, John Hasler wrote:
s. keeling writes:
Previously, this was accepted behaviour; making backup copies of
originals was just something that was done.
I don't recall anyone making backup copies of books or vinyl records.
vinyl to vinyl no, vinyl to tape yes, apart
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 01:53:35PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
What I never understood is locally they tell bicyclists that you stop
faster locking the brakes and everybody else to absolutely avoid doing
Its actually wrong also for bicycles. If
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:53:43AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
Its actually wrong also for bicycles. If you skid it takes a much
longer time to stop. Another thing a lot of casual cyclists don't
know is that you actually should stop mostly
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 10:42:44AM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
I believe the proper technique is to brake harder with the front brakes
and apply enough pressure to the rear brakes so that you can feel when
the rear wheel is just about to lift
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 09:11:10AM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Pigeon wrote:
It's a long time since I took my car test, and I had no problems with
the emergency stop, but the examiner's instructions were ...without
locking
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 09:53:45AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 10:42:44AM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
I believe the proper technique is to brake harder with the front brakes
and apply enough pressure to the rear brakes so that you can feel when
the rear wheel is
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 09:59:40AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, your front brake does exert a bit more stopping power, due to
the increased percentage of weight applied to the front wheel when
stopping; this is why many low-end
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 09:53:45AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
what you suggest is dangerously stupid and the source of a lot of
bike/pedestrian collisions in Portland.
Actually the last time I pulled a panic stop like this was when a
couple of kids jumped into the middle of the street and I
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 01:06:10PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
We're talking about emergency breaking (making a panic stop).
So am I. And people who end up trying the front-wheel hard stop
usually are doing something they should be getting a
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Pigeon wrote:
The UK's Highway Code calculates stopping distances from the equation:
d = v + 0.05(v^2)(d in feet, v in mph)
Scary numbers at my cars top speed of 160mph :)
(Something like a quarter mile)
Any equations for time? :P
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Pigeon wrote:
Dunno what they do now that ABS is common.
Do they still teach if you have a floor mounted automatic, to hit neutral
during a panic stop?
_big_ difference in stopping times at 30-40 mph and under.
Mike
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 09:11:10AM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Pigeon wrote:
It's a long time since I took my car test, and I had no problems with
the emergency stop, but the examiner's instructions were ...without
locking the wheels, so I'd guess any kind of lock
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 10:42:44AM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 10:29:39PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
What I never understood is locally they tell bicyclists that you stop
faster locking the brakes and everybody else to absolutely avoid doing
so. Never mind that if
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:14:30PM +, Pigeon wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 09:11:10AM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
The Chevy Cavaliers of around 2001-2002 were the other way, and hyper
sensitive. I've seen the ABS come on at 5kph at the end of a stop,
completely removing any braking
* Mike Dresser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040224 11:47]:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Pigeon wrote:
The UK's Highway Code calculates stopping distances from the equation:
d = v + 0.05(v^2)(d in feet, v in mph)
Scary numbers at my cars top speed of 160mph :)
(Something like a quarter mile)
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 02:47:00PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Pigeon wrote:
The UK's Highway Code calculates stopping distances from the equation:
d = v + 0.05(v^2)(d in feet, v in mph)
Scary numbers at my cars top speed of 160mph :)
(Something like a
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 02:49:15PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Pigeon wrote:
Dunno what they do now that ABS is common.
Do they still teach if you have a floor mounted automatic, to hit neutral
during a panic stop?
AFAIK they've never taught that... autos aren't very
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:14:30PM +, Pigeon wrote:
Probably to do with the crowded conditions on UK roads... with
something like a quarter of the US's population crammed into the area
of one of the smaller states, most people of an age to
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Pigeon wrote:
Yeah, I know... same here, despite the fact that an emergency stop is
part of the UK driving test and locking the wheels is a fail.
How much of a lock is a lock? My car has ABS, but in extreme situtations
you can get it to slide a couple feet on dry
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 11:48:12AM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
Then again, the traction control doesn't work worth a damn either :)
I'd be surprised if that's the case. You can't expect too much from
anything claiming to give you better control.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 09:41:41AM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
The answers I've gotten so far indicate that it's just a limitation in
DVD-Rs (Pre-written CSS sectors, size limitations, etc). So what's to
stop another company from producing real DVD-R media? I doubt the DVD
Probably
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:11:50 -0600 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bijan Soleymani writes:
Copyright exists in most countries to encourage people to publish
works
such as novels and music albums, by offering authors and/or
producers a
financial incentive.
That's the
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 11:48:12AM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Pigeon wrote:
Yeah, I know... same here, despite the fact that an emergency stop is
part of the UK driving test and locking the wheels is a fail.
How much of a lock is a lock?
It's a long time since I
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 05:20:48PM +, stephen parkinson wrote:
assume perfect driver, what is difference in stopping distance 30mph cf
35mph
According to the ODOT Driver Manual[1], page 39 (in the PDF, 33 on
printed page),
Pigeon wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 05:20:48PM +, stephen parkinson wrote:
assume perfect driver, what is difference in stopping distance 30mph cf
35mph
According to the ODOT Driver Manual[1], page 39 (in the PDF,
Regarding the US constitution, I consider the most
important word in that clause to be limited. This is
not just to ensure that inventors and writers get
their
exclusive use. This is to ensure that wide scale use
of
those ideas is possible with the public domain AFTER
the limited time the
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 04:21:25PM -0800, Curtis Howland wrote:
Like civil forfeiture, copyright has been abused. That
abuse should be resisted by everyone.
Long live CSS.
Oy. Listen, dead horse, I'm beating it, but there is a phenomenon in
psychology called rationalization: I cannot
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 07:39:13PM +, Pigeon wrote:
It's a long time since I took my car test, and I had no problems with
the emergency stop, but the examiner's instructions were ...without
locking the wheels, so I'd guess any kind of lock
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 07:22:10PM +, Pigeon wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 05:20:48PM +, stephen parkinson wrote:
assume perfect driver, what is difference in stopping
Nano Nano wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 09:19:46PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
[snip]
movies on our computers. If they make it illegal for us to watch them,
why would we buy them? It just doesn't add up. ...But it probably does
add up for Congress. Of course, in that case, what's adding up
On Saturday 21 February 2004 11:29 pm, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:10:35PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote:
On Saturday 21 February 2004 10:34 pm, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
snip
Sorry Bijan,
You didn't mention piracy, I was just disgusted with the court
ruling against
321 studios.
Vineet Kumar writes:
This way if anything gets scratched, stolen, melted on the dash, etc.,
I'm only out the cost of CDRs.
But the publisher has lost the sale of a replacement CD, which is why they
don't want you to do it (of course, if the CD only cost a buck or two you
probably wouldn't).
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
With the recent injunction granted against 321 Studios for their DVD X
Copy software for copying DVDs, I've been wondering something. Why is it
necessary to break CSS encryption to make a copy? Could you not make a
bit-for-bit copy of the DVD and have the contents
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 07:47:24AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
Vineet Kumar writes:
This way if anything gets scratched, stolen, melted on the dash, etc.,
I'm only out the cost of CDRs.
But the publisher has lost the sale of a replacement CD, which is why they
don't want you to do it (of
Bijan Soleymani writes:
The publisher would want you to pay them money everytime you listen to
the cd, whenever you look at the cd, etc. They'd even like it if you paid
them without any reason. The publisher wants money, period.
Which is to say that they are just people.
Copyright exists in
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 08:07:07AM +, stephen parkinson wrote:
Nano Nano wrote:
I'm a grown adult who in various small ways makes a conscious choice to
violate certain laws, in a non-harmful way. This occurs at many levels
in society (5 miles over the speed limit). The distinction is:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 11:11:50AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
I.e., they are willing to tolerate copyrights that don't inconvenience
them.
Yes that makes sense. People may tolerate speed limits because they make
their neighborhood a safer place. But they won't tolerate a 5 mile/hour
speed limit
Pigeon wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 08:07:07AM +, stephen parkinson wrote:
Nano Nano wrote:
I'm a grown adult who in various small ways makes a conscious choice to
violate certain laws, in a non-harmful way. This occurs at many levels
in society (5 miles over the speed limit).
Incoming from John Hasler:
Vineet Kumar writes:
This way if anything gets scratched, stolen, melted on the dash, etc.,
I'm only out the cost of CDRs.
But the publisher has lost the sale of a replacement CD, which is why they
don't want you to do it (of course, if the CD only cost a buck
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 04:43:33PM +, Pigeon wrote:
That's a stupid advert. What it actually demonstrates is that the
driver in the advert doesn't know how to brake in an emergency
situation - the car slides to a halt with its front wheels
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 05:20:48PM +, stephen parkinson wrote:
assume perfect driver, what is difference in stopping distance 30mph cf
35mph
According to the ODOT Driver Manual[1], page 39 (in the PDF, 33 on
printed page), you add another 80
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 07:47:24AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
Vineet Kumar writes:
This way if anything gets scratched, stolen, melted on the dash, etc.,
I'm only out the cost of CDRs.
But the publisher has lost the sale of a replacement CD, which is why they
don't want you to do it (of
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 02:09:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 04:43:33PM +, Pigeon wrote:
That's a stupid advert. What it actually demonstrates is that the
driver in the advert doesn't know how to brake in an emergency
situation - the car slides to a halt with
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 12:20:20AM +, Pigeon wrote:
Or they drive a 4WD and
don't realize that anti-lock brakes operate as disc brakes except when
in 2WD.
Don't get me started on 4WD drivers :-)
I am one, and I know how to drive mine.
Pigeon wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 07:47:24AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
Vineet Kumar writes:
This way if anything gets scratched, stolen, melted on the dash, etc.,
I'm only out the cost of CDRs.
But the publisher has lost the sale of a replacement CD, which is why they
don't want you to do it
s. keeling writes:
Previously, this was accepted behaviour; making backup copies of
originals was just something that was done.
I don't recall anyone making backup copies of books or vinyl records.
If I'm not mistaken, this falls under fair use provisions of copyright
law, and the last I
I wrote:
But the publisher has lost the sale of a replacement CD, which is why
they don't want you to do it (of course, if the CD only cost a buck or
two you probably wouldn't).
Pigeon writes:
But what happens if the CD (LP, cassette, DVD, whatever) in question is
no longer published?
You
Roberto Sanchez writes:
Not only that, but most media (software, music, video) that you buy
nowadays, says that you are not buying the content.
A redundant statement as the only sense in which you could be said to be
buying the content would be if you were buying the copyright, and you are
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:36:17 -0600
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't recall anyone making backup copies of books or vinyl records.
I did the latter, often. I had cassette copies of about half of what
I had on vinyl (250 of my 500 or so LPs). I knew a dozen or so people
who did the
On Feb 22, 2004, at 10:36 PM, John Hasler wrote:
s. keeling writes:
Previously, this was accepted behaviour; making backup copies of
originals was just something that was done.
I don't recall anyone making backup copies of books or vinyl records.
Actually it is fairly common to back up vinyl
With the recent injunction granted against 321 Studios for their DVD X
Copy software for copying DVDs, I've been wondering something. Why is it
necessary to break CSS encryption to make a copy? Could you not make a
bit-for-bit copy of the DVD and have the contents still be encrypted on
the new
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 08:38:44PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
Could you not make a bit-for-bit copy of the DVD and have the contents
still be encrypted on the new medium?
Yes, this was one of the reasons why the original approach the DVD people
took against CSS (a piracy tool) was so
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 08:38:44PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
With the recent injunction granted against 321 Studios for their DVD X
Copy software for copying DVDs, I've been wondering something. Why is it
necessary to break CSS encryption to make a copy? Could you not make a
On Saturday 21 February 2004 10:34 pm, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 08:38:44PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
With the recent injunction granted against 321 Studios for their DVD X
Copy software for copying DVDs, I've been wondering something. Why is it
necessary to break
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:10:35PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote:
On Saturday 21 February 2004 10:34 pm, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
Consumer grade media doesn't allow you to record the CSS key on the medium.
I think it's preburned with 0s or something like that. So you can only store
unencrypted video
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On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 08:38:44PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
With the recent injunction granted against 321 Studios for their DVD X
Copy software for copying DVDs, I've been wondering something. Why is it
necessary to break CSS encryption
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On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 07:32:02PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
OTOH, companies that sell those DVD copying tools SHOULD be prosecuted.
Linux distributors should be prosecuted?
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Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 07:32:02PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
OTOH, companies that sell those DVD copying tools SHOULD be prosecuted.
Linux distributors should be prosecuted?
I agree. That is like the old, Gun manufacturers should be liable
for the misuse of the weapons
* Marc Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040221 19:32]:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 08:38:44PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
Could you not make a bit-for-bit copy of the DVD and have the contents
still be encrypted on the new medium?
Yes, this was one of the reasons why the original approach the
* Joel Konkle-Parker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040221 19:00]:
With the recent injunction granted against 321 Studios for their DVD X
Copy software for copying DVDs, I've been wondering something. Why is it
necessary to break CSS encryption to make a copy? Could you not make a
bit-for-bit copy of
On Saturday 21 February 2004 11:29 pm, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:10:35PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote:
On Saturday 21 February 2004 10:34 pm, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
Consumer grade media doesn't allow you to record the CSS key on the
medium. I think it's preburned with 0s or
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 09:19:46PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
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movies on our computers. If they make it illegal for us to watch them,
why would we buy them? It just doesn't add up. ...But it probably does
add up for Congress. Of course, in that case, what's adding up is the
Hollywood
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