Re: Kobo eReader and Linux Problems (WAS: Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased)

2013-05-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 12 May 2013, Siard wrote: Patrick Bartek wrote: [about the Kobo Touch e-reader] Actually, I had read you don't have to create a Kobo account. Just click out of it. But it will pester you to set one up every time you boot. I created an account with a fake e-mail address

Re: Kobo eReader and Linux Problems (WAS: Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased)

2013-05-12 Thread Siard
Patrick Bartek wrote: [about the Kobo Touch e-reader] Actually, I had read you don't have to create a Kobo account. Just click out of it. But it will pester you to set one up every time you boot. I created an account with a fake e-mail address (x...@xx.xx) which made it work and then never

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 mai 13, 15:31:54, Patrick Bartek wrote: Partitioning isn't the problem. It's space. The HD is only 12GB. I have 2.8GB for W2k, 256MB for swap, and about 8.5 left for Linux. Three primary partitions. The problem is the Windows partition where I'd put the Debian ISO file only has

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-10 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 10 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 08 mai 13, 15:31:54, Patrick Bartek wrote: Partitioning isn't the problem. It's space. The HD is only 12GB. I have 2.8GB for W2k, 256MB for swap, and about 8.5 left for Linux. Three primary partitions. The problem is the Windows

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-09 Thread Siard
Patrick Bartek wrote: Guess I'll keep pestering Kobo until they fix it. I've got a Kobo Glo. When connected via USB, the 'Connect' interface immediately shows up, also with Linux. Looks like they did already fix it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 09 May 2013, Siard wrote: Patrick Bartek wrote: Guess I'll keep pestering Kobo until they fix it. I've got a Kobo Glo. When connected via USB, the 'Connect' interface immediately shows up, also with Linux. Looks like they did already fix it. I have the Touch model, purchased

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-09 Thread Siard
Patrick Bartek: Siard: I've got a Kobo Glo. When connected via USB, the 'Connect' interface immediately shows up, also with Linux. Looks like they did already fix it. I have the Touch model, purchased last year, and even with the latest software--updated yesterday to 2.5.1--it doesn't

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-09 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote: Patrick Bartek: Siard: I've got a Kobo Glo. When connected via USB, the 'Connect' interface immediately shows up, also with Linux. Looks like they did already fix it. I have the Touch model, purchased last year, and

RE: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-09 Thread Mark Allums
DRM ebooks will not work that way (unless you strip them of course), and the publishing industry has not yet followed the music industry on DRM Anyone who runs Wine can install Adobe Digital Editions, which will allow download of compatible files without the Kobo software. Also, the Debian

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-09 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: DRM ebooks will not work that way (unless you strip them of course), and the publishing industry has not yet followed the music industry on DRM Anyone who runs Wine can install Adobe Digital Editions, which will allow

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-09 Thread Carl Fink
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 05:03:42PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: Anyone who runs Wine can install Adobe Digital Editions, which will allow download of compatible files without the Kobo software. Also, the Debian version of the Kobo software runs fine on 32-bit, I have it installed on my AMD64

RE: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-09 Thread Mark Allums
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: DRM ebooks will not work that way (unless you strip them of course), and the publishing industry has not yet followed the music industry on DRM Anyone who runs Wine can install Adobe Digital Editions, which will allow

RE: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-09 Thread Mark Allums
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 05:03:42PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: Anyone who runs Wine can install Adobe Digital Editions, which will allow download of compatible files without the Kobo software. Also, the Debian version of the Kobo software runs fine on 32-bit, I have it installed on my

Kobo eReader and Linux Problems (WAS: Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased)

2013-05-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 09 May 2013, Siard wrote: Patrick Bartek: Siard: I've got a Kobo Glo. When connected via USB, the 'Connect' interface immediately shows up, also with Linux. Looks like they did already fix it. I have the Touch model, purchased last year, and even with the latest

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 07.05.2013 um 23:23 schrieb Patrick Bartek: Unfortunately, the Thinkpad 240X we're discussing here can't boot directly off a CD or even a USB thumb drive for that matter. Natively, it can only boot off a floppy or internal hard drive. (I said this thing was ancient. ;-) ) And except for

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread berenger . morel
Le 07.05.2013 23:23, Patrick Bartek a écrit : Unfortunately, the Thinkpad 240X we're discussing here can't boot directly off a CD or even a USB thumb drive for that matter. Natively, it can only boot off a floppy or internal hard drive. (I said this thing was ancient. ;-) ) And except for the

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread berenger . morel
Le 08.05.2013 09:48, Helmut Wollmersdorfer a écrit : Am 07.05.2013 um 23:23 schrieb Patrick Bartek: Unfortunately, the Thinkpad 240X we're discussing here can't boot directly off a CD or even a USB thumb drive for that matter. Natively, it can only boot off a floppy or internal hard drive.

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 07.05.2013 23:23, Patrick Bartek a écrit : Unfortunately, the Thinkpad 240X we're discussing here can't boot directly off a CD or even a USB thumb drive for that matter. Natively, it can only boot off a floppy or internal hard drive. (I said this thing

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 08 May 2013, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: Am 07.05.2013 um 23:23 schrieb Patrick Bartek: Unfortunately, the Thinkpad 240X we're discussing here can't boot directly off a CD or even a USB thumb drive for that matter. Natively, it can only boot off a floppy or internal hard

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 08 May 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 08.05.2013 09:48, Helmut Wollmersdorfer a écrit : Am 07.05.2013 um 23:23 schrieb Patrick Bartek: Unfortunately, the Thinkpad 240X we're discussing here can't boot directly off a CD or even a USB thumb drive for that matter.

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread Dom
On 08/05/13 06:05, Patrick Bartek wrote: FWIW, when I originally thought of installing Linux on the Thinkpad 7 years ago, and noted the inherent problems, I did tried several floppy-based boot managers/utilities, but none of them worked. The external CD drive was either never recognized or was

RE: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Allums
and my Kobo Touch eReader absolutely refuses to interface with Linux or even Windows XP running in VirtualBox. Kind of hypocritcal of Kobo since the OS that drives the reader is Linux. B There is a .deb available unofficially for Kobo from Kobo. They will send you a dropbox link for it

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 08 May 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 07.05.2013 23:23, Patrick Bartek a écrit : Unfortunately, the Thinkpad 240X we're discussing here can't boot directly off a CD or even a USB thumb drive for that matter. Natively, it can only boot off a floppy or internal hard

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread Rob Hurle
On 9 May 2013 08:31, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: I think you've got me mixed up with someone else here. Oh! You mean my Kobo eReader. Yeah. It doesn't like Linux. Doesn't show up at all, either as a mass storage or anything else, when connected via USB. When first

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-08 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 08 May 2013, Mark Allums wrote: and my Kobo Touch eReader absolutely refuses to interface with Linux or even Windows XP running in VirtualBox. Kind of hypocritcal of Kobo since the OS that drives the reader is Linux. B There is a .deb available unofficially for Kobo from

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-07 Thread Jochen Spieker
Andrei POPESCU: On Lu, 06 mai 13, 10:43:02, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Could you please provide a reference for that? The collective wisdom on this list recommends to always use 'upgrade' and 'dist-upgrade' only if really required (e.g. packages not

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-07 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Mar 7 mai 2013 14:41, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 01:54:30AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I have a very old computer too. I will not claim to use it on a daily basis of course (I have only 2 arms, so I can not manage all my 3 keyboards :p) Ahhh!, but

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 07 May 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 06.05.2013 19:55, Patrick Bartek a écrit : On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [forgot I wanted to comment on the other paragraph as well] On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote: I never use the

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-07 Thread Dom
On 07/05/13 22:23, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Tue, 07 May 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Unfortunately, the Thinkpad 240X we're discussing here can't boot directly off a CD or even a USB thumb drive for that matter. Natively, it can only boot off a floppy or internal hard drive. (I

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 08 May 2013, Dom wrote: On 07/05/13 22:23, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Tue, 07 May 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Unfortunately, the Thinkpad 240X we're discussing here can't boot directly off a CD or even a USB thumb drive for that matter. Natively, it can only boot

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 05 mai 13, 15:19:56, staticsafe wrote: Forwarding to list as it was sent directly to me. Original Message Subject: Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 20:05:20 +0100 From: James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com To: staticsafe m

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote: All that's required now is to cease using 'dist-upgrade' for upgrading. Dist-upgrade was recommended in the user install manual while Wheezy was still Testing. Now, that it's Stable, 'upgrade' is the recommended method. Could you please

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[forgot I wanted to comment on the other paragraph as well] On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote: I never use the Stable name any more. Learned my lesson a few years ago when I upgraded an install of Etch--sources set to Stable--not realizing that Lenny had just become the new

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 05 mai 13, 10:08:56, Gary Dale wrote: If your current system uses Stable, you might want to switch that to Squeeze for a while. I wouldn't advise upgrading servers, etc. to Wheezy until you've had the chance to test the upgrade on things that aren't critical. ... and read the

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 05 mai 13, 23:44:36, Carl Fink wrote: That's really odd. Reinstalling Debian from scratch only takes an hour at most, after all. (I use dpkg --get-selections selections.txt to record which packages I had installed.) BTW: +section id=dpkg-set-selections

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread James Allsopp
Hi, What I meant was I wan to upgrade an existing system from Squeeze to Wheezy but replacing Gnome2 with XFCE, which seems a more natural upgrade path. I'd rather not have the grief of trying to remove a load of gnome3 libraries. I think I'll have to install XFCE then remove Gnome2 before the

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Lun 6 mai 2013 10:37, James Allsopp a écrit : Hi, What I meant was I wan to upgrade an existing system from Squeeze to Wheezy but replacing Gnome2 with XFCE, which seems a more natural upgrade path. I'd rather not have the grief of trying to remove a load of gnome3 libraries. I think I'll

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread staticsafe
On 5/6/2013 2:21, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote: All that's required now is to cease using 'dist-upgrade' for upgrading. Dist-upgrade was recommended in the user install manual while Wheezy was still Testing. Now, that it's Stable, 'upgrade' is the

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread francis picabia
1. Listen to the advice from knowledge. 2. There is no guessing. It really is documented how to upgrade. Follow instructions. http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html (or whatever link suits your platform) If you follow this guide, and stop reading junk

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Brian
On Mon 06 May 2013 at 08:45:30 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/6/2013 2:21, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote: All that's required now is to cease using 'dist-upgrade' for upgrading. Dist-upgrade was recommended in the user install manual while

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 08:45:30AM -0400, staticsafe wrote: Hmm, I'm following this - http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html - as an upgrade guide. It suggests `apt-get upgrade` first (after changes your sources of course). Umm, that'll be second,

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread staticsafe
On 5/6/2013 12:00, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 08:45:30AM -0400, staticsafe wrote: Hmm, I'm following this - http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html - as an upgrade guide. It suggests `apt-get upgrade` first (after changes your

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 05 May 2013, Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 07:30:00PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: I never use the Stable name any more. Learned my lesson a few years ago when I upgraded an install of Etch--sources set to Stable--not realizing that Lenny had just become the new

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote: All that's required now is to cease using 'dist-upgrade' for upgrading. Dist-upgrade was recommended in the user install manual while Wheezy was still Testing. Now, that it's Stable, 'upgrade'

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [forgot I wanted to comment on the other paragraph as well] On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote: I never use the Stable name any more. Learned my lesson a few years ago when I upgraded an install of Etch--sources set to

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 mai 13, 10:43:02, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Could you please provide a reference for that? The collective wisdom on this list recommends to always use 'upgrade' and 'dist-upgrade' only if really required (e.g. packages not upgraded).

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 06 mai 13, 10:43:02, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Could you please provide a reference for that? The collective wisdom on this list recommends to always use 'upgrade' and 'dist-upgrade' only if

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 06.05.2013 19:55, Patrick Bartek a écrit : On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [forgot I wanted to comment on the other paragraph as well] On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote: I never use the Stable name any more. Learned my lesson a few years ago when I upgraded

Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
Noted with pleasure Wheezy is officially Stable. Guess it's time to switch from dist-upgrade I've been doing all these months during the transition to Stable to upgrade. Thanks to the developers for all their hard work. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 05. 05. 2013 18:13:07 je Patrick Bartek napisal(a): Noted with pleasure Wheezy is officially Stable. Guess it's time to switch from dist-upgrade I've been doing all these months during the transition to Stable to upgrade. Thanks to the developers for all their hard work. B +1 :) --

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread Gary Dale
PM Subject: Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased Dne, 05. 05. 2013 18:13:07 je Patrick Bartek napisal(a): Noted with pleasure Wheezy is officially Stable. Guess it's time to switch from dist-upgrade I've been doing all these months during the transition to Stable to upgrade. Thanks

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 05/05/13 19:08, Gary Dale wrote: If your apt-sources use Wheezy and not Testing, there is no need to do anything different. If they use Testing, I'd advise switching to Stable or Wheezy for a few months until the new Testing becomes stable enough to use reliably. If your current system

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread staticsafe
On 5/5/2013 12:13, Patrick Bartek wrote: Noted with pleasure Wheezy is officially Stable. Guess it's time to switch from dist-upgrade I've been doing all these months during the transition to Stable to upgrade. Thanks to the developers for all their hard work. B The news post -

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 05 May 2013 18:29:50 Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 05/05/13 19:08, Gary Dale wrote: If your apt-sources use Wheezy and not Testing, there is no need to do anything different. If they use Testing, I'd advise switching to Stable or Wheezy for a few months until the new Testing becomes

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread staticsafe
Forwarding to list as it was sent directly to me. Original Message Subject: Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 20:05:20 +0100 From: James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com To: staticsafe m...@staticsafe.ca Hi, Is there an up to date upgrade guide

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 15:19 -0400, staticsafe wrote: Forwarding to list as it was sent directly to me. Original Message Subject: Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 20:05:20 +0100 From: James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com To: staticsafe m

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread Thilo Six
Excerpt from Tony van der Hoff: On 05/05/13 19:08, Gary Dale wrote: If your apt-sources use Wheezy and not Testing, there is no need to do anything different. If they use Testing, I'd advise switching to Stable or Wheezy for a few months until the new Testing becomes stable enough to use

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 03:44:35PM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: It's very easy to install XFCE. Drill down in the graphical installer to other desktops and make your selection Or: sudo apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies -dsr- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
:40 PM Subject: Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased Dne, 05. 05. 2013 18:13:07 je Patrick Bartek napisal(a): Noted with pleasure Wheezy is officially Stable. Guess it's time to switch from dist-upgrade I've been doing all these months during the transition to Stable to upgrade

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread CaT
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 07:11:40PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 03:44:35PM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: It's very easy to install XFCE. Drill down in the graphical installer to other desktops and make your selection Or: sudo apt-get install xfce4

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

2013-05-05 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 07:30:00PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: I never use the Stable name any more. Learned my lesson a few years ago when I upgraded an install of Etch--sources set to Stable--not realizing that Lenny had just become the new Stable. I ended up with a hybrid system, a mix