Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-29 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: Rounding that was used to publish the sizes on the web. Interesting. Wasn't aware of that. Actually, I have thought out how to find out that: by simply downloading w/ wget help - when it starts it show the exact size - now having the info I come

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-28 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: If you know how to convert Mb to bytes, what is your problem? Rounding that was used to publish the sizes on the web. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-28 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:13:54PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: If you know how to convert Mb to bytes, what is your problem? Rounding that was used to publish the sizes on the web. Interesting. Wasn't aware of that. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID:

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 26 iul 10, 21:04:12, Rob Owens wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:34:23PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: That's about as official as you can get without a Debian release manager being in charge of it, I guess. What difference does it make

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 27 iul 10, 10:00:30, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 26 iul 10, 21:04:12, Rob Owens wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:34:23PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: That's about as official as you can get without a Debian release manager being in

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: I'm confused. Please educate me. 1) Why do you need to know the *exact* size of the iso? 2) do you not know how to convert Mb to bytes? 1. I need to reap the iso image from the media - the same that was burned - to check its sum latter. - Otherwise

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Tzafrir: Worked forme, last time I tried (with a CD). Try w/ other CDs. Sorry, my mistake. I was sure it was available at archive.deian.org . I can't find it. The ubuntu CDs ?! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: That's about as official as you can get without a Debian release manager being in charge of it, I guess. What difference does it make in sense of security? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 26 July 2010 08:31:33 Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: 2) do you not know how to convert Mb to bytes? 2. I believe I do: 1 Mb = 1048576 bytes. Correct? Not according to the relevant standards. 1Mb = 1 000 000 bits 1MB = 1 000 000 bytes 1Mib = 2 ^

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Carl Johnson
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net writes: On Monday 26 July 2010 08:31:33 Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: 2) do you not know how to convert Mb to bytes? 2. I believe I do: 1 Mb = 1048576 bytes. Correct? Not according to the relevant standards.

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:31:33PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: I'm confused. Please educate me. 1) Why do you need to know the *exact* size of the iso? 2) do you not know how to convert Mb to bytes? 1. I need to reap the iso image from the media

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On 7/26/10 4:38 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Not according to the relevant standards. 1Mb = 1 000 000 bits 1MB = 1 000 000 bytes 1Mib = 2 ^ 20 bits 1MiB = 2 ^ 20 bytes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:06, Sthu Deus sthu.d...@gmail.com wrote: Good day. I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. 1. Which software (may that is even packaged for Debian) is the best at Your opinion and why for virus/spy-ware (the software that scans for

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:34:23PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: That's about as official as you can get without a Debian release manager being in charge of it, I guess. What difference does it make in sense of security? I've had a busy week. I

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: I saw you mentioned live cds as well. Debian has the tools to build your own live cd. The command line tool is live-helper, and there's a GUI called live-magic. Is there official live CDs? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Clive: You might want to read http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm - especially the section Accurately Reading a CD Device. I have read an article on the tompic from ubuntu's site. Now I have another problem: n order to retrive iso from

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Tzafrir: Actually, a simple dd should work. No. Almost never works. Could you please be more specific as to the version? Both Debian and Ubuntu keep copies of older images. Well. I need exact sizes of the images of ubuntu - 8.10 and 9.04 . May, You know

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 22:51 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Is there official live CDs? Yesterday I saw Debian Live squeeze alpha2 announced, see: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/07/msg6.html -- Tixy () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign (www.asciiribbon.org)

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:57:53PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Tzafrir: Actually, a simple dd should work. No. Almost never works. Worked forme, last time I tried (with a CD). Could you please be more specific as to the version? Both Debian and Ubuntu

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:51:13PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: I saw you mentioned live cds as well. Debian has the tools to build your own live cd. The command line tool is live-helper, and there's a GUI called live-magic. Is there official live

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 08:29:18PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:51:13PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: I saw you mentioned live cds as well. Debian has the tools to build your own live cd. The command line tool is

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:54:48PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Clive: You might want to read http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm - especially the section Accurately Reading a CD Device. I have read an article on the tompic from ubuntu's

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:19:30AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: question: I have s live/installable-CD/DVD. I use its normal/rescue mode - I do somethings w/ my OS on HDD in order to make it working. I had no ability to check its checksum, so, is

Re: Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-21 Thread Clive Standbridge
1. I do not know how to get image from a cd/dvd - I believe by simple dd-ing it will not work w/ checksum, but some more options should be used. You might want to read http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm - especially the section Accurately Reading a CD Device. -- Cheers,

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-21 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:28:00AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: So, what should I do for the distro install cds - regarding both - spyware and viruses? If we speak about checksumming - sometimes it fails though I believe the problem lays in not accurate or whatever downloading, the images being

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-20 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: question: I have s live/installable-CD/DVD. I use its normal/rescue mode - I do somethings w/ my OS on HDD in order to make it working. I had no ability to check its checksum, so, is there a way I can be sure that the software I used is clean?

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-20 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: What are you afraid of? I mean, what is your main concern? Spying, programs modifications. I have seen already unexplainable weird things - one text file was in size - zero - that never has been so for a long time, another, .ods - was partially

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-20 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:28:00 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: What are you afraid of? I mean, what is your main concern? Spying, programs modifications. I have seen already unexplainable weird things - one text file was in size - zero - that never has

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei, giving me and others the points: This has been discussed several times, but IMVHO the time and resources invested in scanning for malware on Debian are better used in securing the system. Regards, Andrei

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Jordon: If you must because of incoming mail try using ClamAV. Which a lot of servers are readily able to integrate and unless you're dumb enough (and this is just a subjective opinion) to allow elevated privileges without knowing what the program is, or

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:06:58 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. He, sounds like a test... Would You like to take it? 1. Which software (may that is even packaged for Debian)

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 19 iul 10, 15:12:26, Sthu Deus wrote: [...] question: I have s live/installable-CD/DVD. I use its normal/rescue mode - I do somethings w/ my OS on HDD in order to make it working. I had no ability to check its checksum, so, is there a way I can be sure that the software I used is

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:12:26 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:06:58 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. He, sounds like a test... Would You like to take it? Sure! I like tests (almost) more than cakes :-)

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/17/2010 03:11 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sb, 17 iul 10, 14:06:58, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. [snip] This has been discussed several times, but IMVHO the time and resources invested in scanning for malware on

Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-17 Thread Sthu Deus
Good day. I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. 1. Which software (may that is even packaged for Debian) is the best at Your opinion and why for virus/spy-ware (the software that scans for interesting data and sends it to some host) detection? 2. What's the

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 17 iul 10, 14:06:58, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. [snip] This has been discussed several times, but IMVHO the time and resources invested in scanning for malware on Debian are better used in securing the system.

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-17 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Sb, 17 iul 10, 14:06:58, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. If you must because of incoming mail try using ClamAV. Which a lot of servers are readily able to integrate and unless you're dumb enough (and this is just a

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-17 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:06:58 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. He, sounds like a test... 1. Which software (may that is even packaged for Debian) is the best at Your opinion and why for virus/spy-ware (the software that scans for