On Lu, 22 apr 13, 01:03:41, Patrick Bartek wrote:
I stayed with F12 almost 2 and a half years past its EOL. I didn't
like F15, my next usual upgrade, or the following releases, or the
direction Fedora was going. So, I opted against upgrading, but 12 was
having problems. Time for a new
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:52:38 +0300,Andrei POPESCU
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Lu, 22 apr 13, 01:03:41, Patrick Bartek wrote:
I stayed with F12 almost 2 and a half years past its EOL. I didn't
like F15, my next usual upgrade, or the following releases, or the
direction Fedora
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:55:08 -0700
David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote:
Patrick Bartek grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
From: Dave Thayer debian1311420.dmtha...@recursor.net
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
How? What MUA did you use? When I
From: Dave Thayer debian1311420.dmtha...@recursor.net
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
How? What MUA did you use? When I initially set up my Yahoo Mail accounts
(I have several)--this was years ago--there was no option with the free
accounts
for
On Wed 24 Apr 2013 at 23:02:48 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
Okay. I found the Yahoo IMAP help page. The POP help still states
you need a for pay Yahoo Mail Plus account, but no mention of that
for IMAP. I'll run a test. I already have Sylpheed on this system,
and it is both POP or IMAP
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 03:27 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
http://www.yorba.org/projects/geary/
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 17:38 +0200, Luca Cappelletti wrote:
http://trojita.flaska.net/
Thank you, I'll take a look, assumed they are available by the Debian,
Ubuntu and Arch repositories.
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On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 11:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
When I set up my Rocketmail accounts, Evolution automatically wanted to
use IMAP, but I forced to use POP.
This are my Rocketmail settings:
Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
Port: 995
Security: SSL on a dedicated
When I set up my Rocketmail accounts, Evolution automatically wanted to
use IMAP, but I forced to use POP.
This are my Rocketmail settings:
Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
Port: 995
Security: SSL on a dedicated port
Authentication: Password
Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:44:29 -0700 (PDT)
Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello Patrick,
How? What MUA did you use? When I initially set up my Yahoo Mail
accounts (I have
I use Claws Mail which, as you may know, started out as a branch of
Sylpheed.
Others have listed the settings
Patrick Bartek grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
From: Dave Thayer debian1311420.dmtha...@recursor.net
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
How? What MUA did you use? When I initially set up my Yahoo
Mail accounts (I have several)--this was years ago--there was
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 11:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
When I set up my Rocketmail accounts, Evolution automatically wanted to
use IMAP, but I forced to use POP.
This are my Rocketmail settings:
Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
Port: 995
Security: SSL on a
On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 21:43 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
If you have any suggestions, I'll consider them. I have no dying loyalty to
Yahoo.
Stay with Yahoo, but use an MUA.
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On 23 Apr 2013, Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 07:57:11AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
[snip]
Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list, and that is
On 23 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
[snip]
Another problem is that your posts are peppered with lots of codes which
make them annoying to read on a text-based email reader like mutt.
Sorry 'bout that, but there's nothing much I can do about it from my end:
It's Yahoo Mail that's
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:37:13AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
From: Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk
On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
[snip]
Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list,
On 4/24/13, Ralf Mardorf info.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:
Info:
You're free to use Yahoo with a MUA. Take a look at the email address
I'm using right now, it's Rocketmail, aka Yahoo, I'm only limited by the
pain Evolution and Xfce4, IOW the GNOME crap does cause.
What are the pain points/
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 22:59 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 4/24/13, Ralf Mardorf info.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:
Info:
You're free to use Yahoo with a MUA. Take a look at the email address
I'm using right now, it's Rocketmail, aka Yahoo, I'm only limited by the
pain Evolution and
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 03:32:41PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
OTOH, I didn't find another mailer that fit halfway to my needs and that
does work with the provider settings I need.
There is geary.
http://www.yorba.org/projects/geary/
I've never used it, myself, but it is an alternative to
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 03:32:41PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
OTOH, I didn't find another mailer that fit halfway to my needs and that
does work with the provider settings I need.
There is geary.
From: Ralf Mardorf info.mard...@rocketmail.com
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 10:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
Are you *really* forced into using yahoo, it really is horrible (not
sure which is worse hotmail or yahoo.) for communicating on mailing
lists.
Info:
You're free to use
From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 21:43 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
If you have any suggestions, I'll consider them. I have no dying
loyalty to Yahoo.
Stay with Yahoo, but use an MUA.
Can't use an MUA with the free version of Yahoo Mail.
From: Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk
On 23 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
[snip]
Another problem is that your posts are peppered with lots of codes
[snip]
Hope the problem is solvable from your end.
Yes; it wasn't entirely your (or Yahoo's) fault. I had some
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:33:45 -0700 (PDT)
Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello Patrick,
As far as I understand, with the free Yahoo Mail that I use, you're not
able to use a traditional MUA. It's browser-based only. However, if
you use the pay version, which is IMAP or POP-based, you
From: Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:33:45 -0700 (PDT)
Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello Patrick,
As far as I understand, with the free Yahoo Mail that I use, you're not
able to use a traditional MUA. It's browser-based only. However, if
you
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
How? What MUA did you use? When I initially set up my Yahoo Mail accounts
(I have several)--this was years ago--there was no option with the free
accounts for POP3 or IMAP. It was specifically said that if you wanted it,
On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
[snip]
Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list, and that is Yahoo's reply
header. I cannot have my own custom reply header, nor can I opt not to have
one at all. At least, not
On 2013-04-23 07:57:11 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
[snip]
Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list, and that is Yahoo's
reply header. I cannot have my own custom reply
On 23 Apr 2013, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Another problem is that your posts are peppered with lots of codes which
make them annoying to read on a text-based email reader like mutt.
Strange. I also use Mutt (with various patches) and I don't see any
problem with Patrick's mail.
From: Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk
On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
[snip]
Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list, and that is Yahoo's
reply header. I cannot have my own custom reply header,
On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 11:37 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
With almost everything these days graphic and web-based, smartphone
and tablet, the days of pure ASCII e-mail are gone for the most part.
No, the experiment HTML email miserably failed, that's why more and
more people switch to plain text
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 07:57:11AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
[snip]
Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list, and that is Yahoo's
reply header. I cannot have my own
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:37:13 -0700 (PDT)
Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:
Snip
Hope the problem is solvable from your end.
Easy solution: Kill file. Bye.
-- cmg
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On 4/23/2013 15:19, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:37:13 -0700 (PDT)
Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:
Snip
Hope the problem is solvable from your end.
Easy solution: Kill file. Bye.
-- cmg
Seems like overkill.
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:37:13AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
From: Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk
On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
[snip]
Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list,
From: Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:37:13AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
From: Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk
[snip]
Another problem is that your posts are peppered with lots of codes
which
make them annoying
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 10:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
Are you *really* forced into using yahoo, it really is horrible (not
sure which is worse hotmail or yahoo.) for communicating on mailing
lists.
Info:
You're free to use Yahoo with a MUA. Take a look at the email address
I'm using right
- Original Message -
From: Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
Patrick Bartek:
I've been using Wheezy 64-bit for several months now
Patrick Bartek:
- Original Message -
From: Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
The main difference to keep
- Original Message -
From: Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
[snip]
As for staying with Wheezy, why
On 04/21/2013 09:30 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 06:41:43PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade
upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more
significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two
- Original Message -
Patrick Bartek:
- Original Message -
From: Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
It would be nice if you could trim
Patrick Bartek:
I've been using Wheezy 64-bit for several months now, and as
recommended[1] having been using dist-upgrade for upgrading it. My
sources-list[2] is set to Wheezy and not testing as per those same
instructions. When Wheezy is promoted to Stable should I switch to
apt-get
I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade
upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more significant
changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do the same thing.
However, I prefer to stay in the habit of using dist-upgrade (or
full-upgrade for
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 08:03:20AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade
upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more
significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do
the same thing. However, I prefer to stay
I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade
upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more
significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do
the same thing. However, I prefer to stay in the habit of using
dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 06:41:43PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade
upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more
significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do
the same thing. However, I
On Sunday 21 April 2013 17:03:18 Chris Bannister wrote:
Using dist-upgrade can
remove half your sysytem before you can say OMG!
I use aptitude not apt-get, so cannot comment on apt-get, but the aptitude
full-upgrade command does nothing without asking first, so there is no
question of it
On 2013-04-21 22:52:39 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 21 April 2013 17:03:18 Chris Bannister wrote:
Using dist-upgrade can
remove half your sysytem before you can say OMG!
I use aptitude not apt-get, so cannot comment on apt-get, but the
aptitude full-upgrade command does nothing
I've been using Wheezy 64-bit for several months now, and as recommended[1]
having been using dist-upgrade for upgrading it. My sources-list[2] is set
to Wheezy and not testing as per those same instructions. When Wheezy is
promoted to Stable should I switch to apt-get upgrade instead? Or
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