Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-19 Thread Richard Lyons
On Monday 19 January 2004 05:27, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On 2004-01-18, Mac McCaskie penned: ROFLOL, Richard Lyons wrote: But this has been a bad week for tempers here. Quite a few rants and upsets. Has anyone else wondered if it's seasonal? Subject for a little paper, perhaps?

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-19 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-01-19, Richard Lyons penned: On Monday 19 January 2004 05:27, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I was sick this weekend, which meant I sat around the house all weekend with my also-sick fiance rather than going skiing or mountain biking on a gorgeous weekend. So, here's one vote for cabin

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-18 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-01-18, Mac McCaskie penned: ROFLOL, Richard Lyons wrote: But this has been a bad week for tempers here. Quite a few rants and upsets. Has anyone else wondered if it's seasonal? Subject for a little paper, perhaps? SUBTLE - Seasonal Usenet Bad Temper Loss Episodes... Climatic

Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Ryan Mackay
When you first boot the install cd at the boot: prompt type 'bf24'. Now you can choose ext2/3 reiserfs, more choices that redhat gives now aint it? Please before you explode again, ask nicely. -- Cheers, rinmak [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-01-17, Joseph Guida MD penned: Sometimes I think that open source geeks intentionally complicate things to keep the borderline geeks (like me) from experimenting with and learning about O/Ses like Debian. The install menus USED TO ALLOW A CHOICE BETWEEN EXT2 and EXT3...before you

Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Bye, have a nice trip. On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 07:38:32PM -0700, Joseph Guida MD wrote: Sometimes I think that open source geeks intentionally complicate things to keep the borderline geeks (like me) from experimenting with and learning about O/Ses like Debian. The install menus USED TO

Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
I will have to ditto Monique's frustration. I am a debian noobie. However, I started working with IBM PC's in '83 and later graduated to XT's on the job. The first windows I installed was 2.0 (a runtime version for a tape backup program). Over the years I've seen Novell perfect it's

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 08:46:31AM -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: I will have to ditto Monique's frustration. It wasn't Monique. If you want Debian to eventually follow DOS, then neglect new users and ignore documentation. Keep knowledge to yourselves and allow only club members to know the

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Hercinger Viktor
Hi! The problem is not what Joseph Guida MD asked, IMHO the problem is HOW he asked. I'm a newbie too, but I managed to use Debian. I read documentation or ask people who are using Debian too. Best wishes: Viktor Hercinger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
Colin Watson wrote: It wasn't Monique. oops, so sue me rigid and spout rubbish about secret incantations. . . patronizing nonsense. rigid? not hardly, I am asking everyone to be less rigid on what the noobies must to do. It should not be asked of them to bow down and scrape in order to

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 10:23:37AM -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: Colin Watson wrote: rigid and spout rubbish about secret incantations. . . patronizing nonsense. rigid? not hardly, I am asking everyone to be less rigid on what the noobies must to do. It should not be asked of them to bow

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Stephen
On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 10:23:37AM -0600 or thereabouts, Mac McCaskie wrote: [...] Now that I have your attention. Just get over yourself and look at it from the viewpoint of someone trying to learn a very complicated and disjointed system with an immense amount of mostly barely useful

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Edward J. Shornock
Mac McCaskie wrote: I will have to ditto Monique's frustration. Frustration over Joseph Guida MD's trolling? Excellent, that's how the majority that have responded to this post feel as well! =) I am a debian noobie. However, I started working with IBM PC's in '83 and later graduated to XT's

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-01-17, Mac McCaskie penned: Colin Watson wrote: It wasn't Monique. oops, so sue me I was remarking on the OP's incredibly poor form in asking a question. Quite a misattribution, in this case. I'm glad that Colin pointed it out. rigid? not hardly, I am asking everyone to be less

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 08:46:31AM -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: If you want Debian to eventually follow DOS, then neglect new users and ignore documentation. Keep knowledge to yourselves and allow only club members to know the secret incantations. IMO one of the strengths of Debian is that it

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Kent West
Monique Y. Herman wrote: I love debian, and I do try to help people in those limited places where I might have a clue. But if someone posts to a debian user list insulting the entire debian (volunteer) organization and threatening to take their ball and go home, I say, good riddance. I honestly

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-01-17, Kent West penned: Whereas the regulars, such as Monique above, are correct in what they say, I'd like to speak up in behalf of the OP. He's not been with us long, and doesn't yet understand the culture of this list. He got frustrated, and he vented. I've done worse, even on

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 17 January 2004 22:35, Kent West wrote: Monique Y. Herman wrote: [...] I honestly wonder how people who are as impolitic as the OP manage to keep their day jobs. [...] Whereas the regulars, such as Monique above, are correct in what they say, I'd like to speak up in behalf of

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
ROFLOL, Richard Lyons wrote: But this has been a bad week for tempers here. Quite a few rants and upsets. Has anyone else wondered if it's seasonal? Subject for a little paper, perhaps? SUBTLE - Seasonal Usenet Bad Temper Loss Episodes... Climatic Recurring Influences on the Internet

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Russell
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 12:04:26AM +, Richard Lyons wrote: On Saturday 17 January 2004 22:35, Kent West wrote: Monique Y. Herman wrote: [...] I honestly wonder how people who are as impolitic as the OP manage to keep their day jobs. [...] Whereas the regulars, such as Monique

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 10:23:37 -0600, Mac McCaskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: rigid? not hardly, I am asking everyone to be less rigid on what the noobies must to do. It should not be asked of them to bow down and scrape in order to gain admission into the great and sacred learning hall.

EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-16 Thread Joseph Guida MD
Sometimes I think that open source geeks intentionally complicate things to keep the borderline geeks (like me) from experimenting with and learning about O/Ses like Debian. The install menus USED TO ALLOW A CHOICE BETWEEN EXT2 and EXT3...before you loaded up the HD with the O/S. Now, you

Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-16 Thread Edward J. Shornock
Joseph Guida MD wrote: Sometimes I think that open source geeks intentionally complicate things to keep the borderline geeks (like me) from experimenting with and learning about O/Ses like Debian. The install menus USED TO ALLOW A CHOICE BETWEEN EXT2 and EXT3...before you loaded up the HD