Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-18 Thread Me Em
It's bug 814081 : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=814081 . Le lun. 15 févr. 2016 15:29, Sven Arvidsson a écrit : > On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 10:57 +0100, Me wrote: > > Thanks for the reply, I reported it to the Debian GNOME maintainer. > > > > Do you have a bug report

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-15 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 10:57 +0100, Me wrote: > Thanks for the reply, I reported it to the Debian GNOME maintainer. > Do you have a bug report number? I'm interested on following up on this as I experience the same thing (sometimes). There have been open bugs about this both upstream and in

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-14 Thread Bernard
Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 08 Feb 2016, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 03:20:22PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, Me wrote: Hello, In GNOME Shell, when I click on the "Eject" option in the

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-12 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:49:43AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: [...] > In 3 years of use, I've experienced no problems. Why does no one > believe me? I *do* believe what you state above. I just *strongly* recommend against the practice you

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 12 February 2016 02:39:29 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 11 Feb 2016 at 22:57:02 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 11 February 2016 22:27:30 Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:13:27AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > A point of order here: All this

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 11 Feb 2016 at 10:49:43 (-0800), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Tue 09 Feb 2016 at 09:00:50 (-0800), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > > > > > > > > > Le lundi 08

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 12 Feb 2016, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:13:27AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > A point of order here: All this applies to Wheezy; I don't know now > > that Debian has adopted systemd and udev has it as a dependency that > > all this will work the same. > > Oh,

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > Le jeudi 11 février 2016 à 11:57 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > All I can say is it works, caveats you mentioned aside. No > > problems in 3 years of use. > > Your system probably doesn't use caching then, unlike the default > Debian+GNOME install. Since

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 12 Feb 2016, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:49:43AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > [...] > > > In 3 years of use, I've experienced no problems. Why does no one > > believe me? > > I *do* believe what you

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-12 Thread Stuart Longland
On 13/02/16 04:22, Patrick Bartek wrote: > You know, I've never even seen a key that doesn't have an LED on it. > Of course, I only buy the big "thumb" drives and not the teenie, tiny > ones designed to be inconspicuous. I have here, and have seen, several such drives in various sizes. --

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 13/02/16 04:22, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > You know, I've never even seen a key that doesn't have an LED on it. > > Of course, I only buy the big "thumb" drives and not the teenie, > > tiny ones designed to be inconspicuous. > > I have here, and

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-11 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > Le mardi 09 février 2016 à 09:00 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > Yes, I know about caching, but on my system read/writes to removable > > devices are almost instantaneous. > > Maybe it's just luck ? As I said, I frequently get a message from > GNOME saying

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-11 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 09 Feb 2016 at 09:00:50 (-0800), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > > > > > Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 13:50 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > > > Perhaps in days gone by: my OS prior to Wheezy -- Fedora 12 -- > > > >

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-11 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, Brian wrote: > On Tue 09 Feb 2016 at 09:00:50 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > > > > > Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 13:50 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > > > Perhaps in days gone by: my OS prior to Wheezy -- Fedora 12 -- > > > > was like

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-11 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 08/02/16 09:20, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > You shouldn't have to "eject" it all. Just plug it in and when > > done, pull it out. The system should mount and unmount it > > automatically. We're not talking Windows here. > > We're not talking DOS

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 11 February 2016 22:27:30 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:13:27AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > A point of order here: All this applies to Wheezy; I don't know now > > that Debian has adopted systemd and udev has it as a dependency that > > all this will work

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Thu 11 Feb 2016 at 10:49:43 (-0800), Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 09 Feb 2016 at 09:00:50 (-0800), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > > > > > > > Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 13:50 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > > >

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:13:27AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > A point of order here: All this applies to Wheezy; I don't know now > that Debian has adopted systemd and udev has it as a dependency that > all this will work the same. Oh, so Wheezy will work without udev? -- "If you're not

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-11 Thread Me
Le jeudi 11 février 2016 à 11:57 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > All I can say is it works, caveats you mentioned aside. No > problems in 3 years of use. Your system probably doesn't use caching then, unlike the default Debian+GNOME install. Since you are careful not to unplug your drives when

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Thu 11 Feb 2016 at 22:57:02 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 11 February 2016 22:27:30 Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:13:27AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > A point of order here: All this applies to Wheezy; I don't know now > > > that Debian has adopted

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-09 Thread Me
Le mardi 09 février 2016 à 09:00 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > Yes, I know about caching, but on my system read/writes to removable > devices are almost instantaneous. Maybe it's just luck ? As I said, I frequently get a message from GNOME saying the writes are not finished, and that although

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 09 Feb 2016 at 09:00:50 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > > > Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 13:50 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > > Perhaps in days gone by: my OS prior to Wheezy -- Fedora 12 -- > > > was like that. Anything USB had to be mounted/unmounted

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-09 Thread Me
Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 13:50 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > Perhaps in days gone by: my OS prior to Wheezy -- Fedora 12 -- > was like that. Anything USB had to be mounted/unmounted manually. > What a pain. And if you unplugged without unmounting . . . Yes, things > could break. But with

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 13:50 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > Perhaps in days gone by: my OS prior to Wheezy -- Fedora 12 -- > > was like that. Anything USB had to be mounted/unmounted manually. > > What a pain. And if you unplugged without unmounting . .

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-09 Thread Stuart Longland
On 08/02/16 09:20, Patrick Bartek wrote: > You shouldn't have to "eject" it all. Just plug it in and when done, > pull it out. The system should mount and unmount it automatically. We're > not talking Windows here. We're not talking DOS either. Windows 98 might've written data synchronously to

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-09 Thread David Wright
On Tue 09 Feb 2016 at 09:00:50 (-0800), Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > > > Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 13:50 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > > Perhaps in days gone by: my OS prior to Wheezy -- Fedora 12 -- > > > was like that. Anything USB had to be mounted/unmounted

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 03:20:22PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > In GNOME Shell, when I click on the "Eject" option in the notification > > bar to unmount my USB key, it unmounts correctly and

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-08 Thread Me
Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 08:35 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > Otherwise you either lose the last writes to the device (if you're > lucky and/or have a civilised file system on your stick, like ext3/ext4), > or the whole file system is thrashed (more likely when you have an > uncivilised

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-08 Thread Me
Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 10:06 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > It looks more a GNOME thing to me -- but I guess the Debian GNOME > maintainers are able to cope with it (plus your report would be > targetting the specific version you're using). So Debian seems > to me the first choice here.

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 09:45:02AM +0100, Me wrote: > Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 08:35 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > Otherwise you either lose the last writes to the device (if you're > > lucky and/or have a civilised file system on your

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:50:59PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 08 Feb 2016, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > This seems like *very* bad advice. The system keeps a cache[1] of the > > data in the USB and flushes this cache only from time

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-08 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 08 Feb 2016, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 03:20:22PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > In GNOME Shell, when I click on the "Eject" option in the > > >

GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-07 Thread Me
Hello, In GNOME Shell, when I click on the "Eject" option in the notification bar to unmount my USB key, it unmounts correctly and then immediately mounts again, as if I just plugged it. It happens only with the Kingston DataTraveler I own. I've tried on several desktops, and it seems to happen

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, Me wrote: > Hello, > > In GNOME Shell, when I click on the "Eject" option in the notification > bar to unmount my USB key, it unmounts correctly and then immediately > mounts again, as if I just plugged it. > > It happens only with the Kingston DataTraveler I own. I've

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-07 Thread Me
Le dimanche 07 février 2016 à 15:20 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > You shouldn't have to "eject" it all. Just plug it in and when done, > pull it out. The system should mount and unmount it automatically. We're > not talking Windows here. What if some program, like my backup software, began