Dne, 18. 10. 2014 03:20:25 je Joel Rees napisal(a):
When I look at systemd, the fundamental design and structure fly in
the face of reason. I'm not trying to be insulting when I say that.
For some of us it really does fly in the face of reason.
I second that.
Some terms that have been used
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 03:16:59PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
- the LSB is a joint project of several Linux distributions. Ironically:
The LSB has been criticized for not taking input from projects, most
notably the Debian project, outside the sphere of its
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 09:32:31AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:25:31AM +0200, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
Even with the addition 10 to 20 people posting on systemd,
it shouldn't be a issue.
Andrei's point was not that the list /infrastructure/ was
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 04:49:48PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/20/2014 02:35 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
If you mean you are actually DOSing Debian's support channels just to
make you're point that's likely to get you banned instead, besides not
achieving anything.
~OR!~
List archives
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:25:31AM +0200, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
Even with the addition 10 to 20 people posting on systemd,
it shouldn't be a issue.
Andrei's point was not that the list /infrastructure/ was at risk, but
that debian-user - this list - was essentially subject to a denial of
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:25:31 +0200
Ludovic Meyer ludo.v.me...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 04:49:48PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/20/2014 02:35 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
If you mean you are actually DOSing Debian's support channels just
to make you're point that's likely
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:25:31AM +0200, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
Even with the addition 10 to 20 people posting on systemd,
it shouldn't be a issue.
Andrei's point was not that the list /infrastructure/ was at risk, but
that debian-user - this list - was essentially
On Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:50:02 PM UTC+5:30, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
Slavko wrote:
Ahoj,
napísal:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
I cannot believe some people still
thinks [snip] that we should
Le 18.10.2014 07:06, Steve Litt a écrit :
If they vote no on the GR, then I think
that unless Red Hat succeeds in systemdizing X itself, we'll (meaning
those of us who care) will replace systemd-contaminated software with
init-agnostic software. And for sure, boycott all systemd-dependent
On 20/10/14 04:03, Martin Read wrote:
On 19/10/14 17:45, Rusi Mody wrote:
As for 'wounded ego': Do you have a wounded ego if a dead branch
falls and smashes the windshield of your car? Or a Tsunami knocks
off your seafront house?
If you are taking offense, who are you offended by? Debian is
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 20/10/14 04:03, Martin Read wrote:
On 19/10/14 17:45, Rusi Mody wrote:
As for 'wounded ego': Do you have a wounded ego if a dead branch
falls and smashes the windshield of your car? Or a Tsunami knocks
off your seafront house?
If you are taking offense, who are you
On 20/10/14 01:28, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Did they successed with wayland? I just took a look at weston and it
seems to be linked to stuffD... and with Dbus, when I thought I had read
time ago things about them using a home-made bus, because they thought
dbus was too heavy... I
On Sb, 18 oct 14, 10:20:25, Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
We were objecting to
the ad hominem unpleasantness and destruction of the list.
Let me try to explain (yet again, sorry, but re-wording things
sometimes does help) my
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 09:49:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Well, it's worth noting that in many areas of endeavor, users, or user
communities, write specifications/standards that all players have to meet.
So, for example, when one buys an ethernet card - vendors really do not
really have a choice as
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:15:47 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sb, 18 oct 14, 10:20:25, Joel Rees wrote:
Does this help explain why what appears to some as mere turf battles
and childish name-calling, etc., is a bit more than playground
antics?
Not to me. All
Sorry about the newbie question but, can I vote somewhere to preserve
the choice of init systems ?
I would like to firm my position, not against systemd but, instead, in
favor of the preservation of Debian's stability and future, by being able
to choose a init system during the installation
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 09:49:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Well, it's worth noting that in many areas of endeavor, users, or user
communities, write specifications/standards that all players have to meet.
So, for example, when one buys an ethernet card - vendors really do not
Unfortunately, unless you're a Debian Developer, the answer is no -
other than with your feet - to one of the dwindling number of distros
that make it policy to stay away from systemd.
Sigh
Miles Fidelman
Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
Sorry about the newbie question but, can I vote somewhere to
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 13:52:37, Steve Litt wrote:
Not to me. All these discussions could very well happen on the
-offtopic list.
Sure it can. Every single status-quo supporter in history has told
protestors the same thing: If you want to ride on the front of the bus,
petition the county,
Okay, no problem... Tks for your reply!:-)
On 20 October 2014 16:31, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Unfortunately, unless you're a Debian Developer, the answer is no - other
than with your feet - to one of the dwindling number of distros that make
it policy to stay away
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 14:27:59, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 09:49:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Well, it's worth noting that in many areas of endeavor, users, or user
communities, write specifications/standards that all players have to meet.
So, for example, when one
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 14:27:59, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 09:49:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Well, it's worth noting that in many areas of endeavor, users, or user
communities, write specifications/standards that all players have to meet.
So,
On 10/19/2014 04:32 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 20/10/14 04:03, Martin Read wrote:
On 19/10/14 17:45, Rusi Mody wrote:
As for 'wounded ego': Do you have a wounded ego if a dead branch
falls and smashes the windshield of your car? Or a Tsunami knocks
off your seafront house?
If you are taking
On 10/20/2014 01:27 AM, Rusi Mody wrote:
On Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:50:02 PM UTC+5:30, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
Slavko wrote:
Ahoj,
napísal:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
I cannot believe some people
On 10/20/2014 10:15 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 18 oct 14, 10:20:25, Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
We were objecting to
the ad hominem unpleasantness and destruction of the list.
Let me try to explain (yet again, sorry, but
On 10/20/2014 02:35 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
If you mean you are actually DOSing Debian's support channels just to
make you're point that's likely to get you banned instead, besides not
achieving anything.
~OR!~
List archives get refreshed every 20 minutes. is a more likely reason
for the
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 16:49:48, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/20/2014 02:35 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
If you mean you are actually DOSing Debian's support channels just to
make you're point that's likely to get you banned instead, besides not
achieving anything.
~OR!~
List archives get refreshed
On 10/20/2014 04:54 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 16:49:48, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/20/2014 02:35 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
If you mean you are actually DOSing Debian's support channels just to
make you're point that's likely to get you banned instead, besides not
achieving
On 21/10/14 00:49, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 20/10/14 04:03, Martin Read wrote:
On 19/10/14 17:45, Rusi Mody wrote:
As for 'wounded ego': Do you have a wounded ego if a dead branch
falls and smashes the windshield of your car? Or a Tsunami knocks
off your seafront house?
On 21/10/14 05:24, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
Sorry about the newbie question but, can I vote somewhere to preserve
the choice of init systems ?
http://boycottsystemd.org/lennart1.png ?
---8---8
Please don't top post.
Kind regards
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Dňa Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:09:59 -0400 Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org
napísal:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
I cannot believe some people still
thinks [snip] that we should simply stick with
On Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Slavko wrote:
Ahoj,
napísal:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
I cannot believe some people still
thinks [snip] that we should simply stick with
On 19/10/14 17:45, Rusi Mody wrote:
As for 'wounded ego':
Do you have a wounded ego if a dead branch falls and smashes the windshield
of your car?
Or a Tsunami knocks off your seafront house?
If you are taking offense, who are you offended by?
Debian is not a person (as far as I know!)
Debian
On 10/17/2014 3:42 PM, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:
The fun part will be to see who actually steps up to the plate to do all
of the extra work. Especially amongst all of those pledged seconds. I
hope someone is keeping a list. :) Ric
From what I read, it will be one all debian devs
Slavko wrote:
Ahoj,
Dňa Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:09:59 -0400 Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org
napísal:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
I cannot believe some people still
thinks [snip] that we should simply
On 10/19/2014 01:25 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/17/2014 3:42 PM, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:
The fun part will be to see who actually steps up to the plate to do all
of the extra work. Especially amongst all of those pledged seconds. I
hope someone is keeping a list. :) Ric
From
On 10/17/2014 10:12 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:59:44 -0700
Jimmy Johnson field.engin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/17/2014 08:44 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/17/2014 10:22 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
What's the hurry, Squeeze is good until 2016, we have plenty of
time to test
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:06:53 -0700
Jimmy Johnson field.engin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/17/2014 10:12 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:59:44 -0700
Jimmy Johnson field.engin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/17/2014 08:44 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/17/2014 10:22 PM, Jimmy Johnson
On 10/17/2014 10:06 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:52:32 -0700
Jimmy Johnson field.engin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/17/2014 07:54 AM, Rusi Mody wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
Now let's see what happens
On 10/17/2014 10:26 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/18/2014 12:59 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
/snip/
I think that depends on what solution you propose, smart people listen.
AMEN!
I can say that I long ago upgraded to Jessie/systemd so that I could be
the first to yell about it. I'm still looking
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:20:16AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
Here are the first few seconds:
Isn't this information available on the debian-vote list? Seems
redundant to repost it here.
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:20:20PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2014-10-17 21:42 +0200, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/17/2014 01:32 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/17/2014 1:29 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
I finished the thread right before I posted, and there were only 4
On 2014-10-18 10:13 +0200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:20:20PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
The list will likely be empty, I'm afraid. The whole point of the GR is
that its proponents can make any required work SEP if it succeeds.
SEP? Google is no help.
I meant the
On Sat, 2014-10-18 at 21:13 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:20:20PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
[...]
The list will likely be empty, I'm afraid. The whole point of the GR is
that its proponents can make any required work SEP if it succeeds.
SEP? Google is no help.
On 18/10/14 02:38, Steve Litt wrote:
I would add that it should be delegated to an interchangeable part
through a well-specified thin interface, without global variables like
dbus. Or, if there *must* be a global variable, at least make it
purposed only for interaction between init and program,
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:20:25AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 21:09:59 Dan Ritter wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N
On Saturday 18 October 2014 18:50:12 Andre N Batista wrote:
Beside the quotes on top, I've seen you say this same mantra over and
over the past months on your battle to shut down any complaining related
to the rabbit. Your main line has been from the start: devs are so cute,
No, devs do the
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 02:50:12PM -0300, Andre N Batista wrote:
But if what you need is authority arguing for authority, instead of
useless user words, well that's what's happening here:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00061.html
If you were able to read beyond the spell
- Original Message -
From: goli...@riseup.net
Now let's see what happens with this!
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg1.html
Very interesting discussion there. Thanks for posting.
-Rob
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On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
Now let's see what happens with this!
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg1.html
Very interesting discussion there. Thanks for posting.
-Rob
Thank you Ian Jackson and all
Rusi Mody wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
Now let's see what happens with this!
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg1.html
Very interesting discussion there. Thanks for posting.
-Rob
Thank you Ian Jackson
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:54:06 -0700 (PDT)
Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
Now let's see what happens with this!
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg1.html
Very
On 10/17/2014 12:21 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:54:06 -0700 (PDT)
Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
Now let's see what happens with this!
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:38:12 -0400
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 10/17/2014 12:21 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:54:06 -0700 (PDT)
Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Owens
On 10/17/2014 at 12:38 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/17/2014 12:21 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com
wrote:
Thank you Ian, and the seconders, and everyone who is speaking up
for (what I call) sanity.
Still only 4 seconds though...
Eh?
I see at least 8 seconds so far, even if we
- Original Message -
From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
Still only 4 seconds though...
Not true: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00012.htm
There was an alternate proposal made by the Debian Leader. That may have only
gotten 4 seconds (I didn't count), but
On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/17/2014 12:21 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:54:06 -0700 (PDT)
Rusi Mody wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
Now let's see what
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 01:01:44PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
On 10/17/2014 at 12:38 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/17/2014 12:21 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com
wrote:
Thank you Ian, and the seconders, and everyone who is speaking up
for (what I call) sanity.
Still only 4
On 10/17/2014 1:01 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote:
On 10/17/2014 at 12:38 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/17/2014 12:21 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com
wrote:
Thank you Ian, and the seconders, and everyone who is speaking up
for (what I call) sanity.
Still only 4
On 10/17/2014 1:29 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
I finished the thread right before I posted, and there were only 4 seconds.
Guess I missed some sub threads or something...
Oh well, glad to see it will get a vote...
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Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
Seconds continue
Bernhard R. Link
Dimitri John Ledkov
Arnaud Fontaine
Thorsten Glaser
And once again loud cheers for Ian Jackson and the seconds
Some like Charles Plessy are distressed that this may be
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
I cannot believe some people still
thinks [snip] that we should simply stick with
the TC's authority regardless what.
Surely no-one has ever said that?? References if someone has?
Lisi
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Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
Seconds continue
Bernhard R. Link
Dimitri John Ledkov
Arnaud Fontaine
Thorsten Glaser
And once again loud cheers for Ian Jackson and the seconds
Abso-Lutely!
[snip]
However the contentiousness of this
On 10/17/2014 01:32 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/17/2014 1:29 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
I finished the thread right before I posted, and there were only 4 seconds.
Guess I missed some sub threads or something...
Oh well, glad to see it will get a vote...
The fun part
On 2014-10-17 21:42 +0200, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/17/2014 01:32 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/17/2014 1:29 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
I finished the thread right before I posted, and there were only 4 seconds.
Guess I missed some sub threads or something...
Oh well, glad
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
I cannot believe some people still
thinks [snip] that we should simply stick with
the TC's authority regardless what.
Surely no-one has ever said that?? References if
Dan Ritter wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
I cannot believe some people still
thinks [snip] that we should simply stick with
the TC's authority regardless what.
Surely no-one has ever said that??
On Friday 17 October 2014 21:09:59 Dan Ritter wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
I cannot believe some people still
thinks [snip] that we should simply stick with
the TC's authority regardless
mean more work, but this is an ideal I believe a lot of
contributors will be happy to help with.
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On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 21:09:59 Dan Ritter wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
I cannot believe some people still
thinks
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:20:25 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
According to what I understand as an engineer, everything that systemd
does beyond the minimum (in other words, beyond being the ultimate
backstop for signals and dying orphaned processes) should be
delegated.
I would
On 10/17/2014 07:54 AM, Rusi Mody wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
Now let's see what happens with this!
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg1.html
Very interesting discussion there. Thanks for posting.
Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/17/2014 01:32 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/17/2014 1:29 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
I finished the thread right before I posted, and there were only 4
seconds.
Guess I missed some sub threads or something...
Oh well, glad to see it will get a vote...
On 10/17/2014 08:44 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/17/2014 10:22 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
What's the hurry, Squeeze is good until 2016, we have plenty of time to
test other init-systems.
You use KDE. Where you there when KDE3 became KDE4 and broke our hearts?
What a flame fest that was. Yet,
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:52:32 -0700
Jimmy Johnson field.engin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/17/2014 07:54 AM, Rusi Mody wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
Now let's see what happens with this!
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:59:44 -0700
Jimmy Johnson field.engin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/17/2014 08:44 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/17/2014 10:22 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
What's the hurry, Squeeze is good until 2016, we have plenty of
time to test other init-systems.
You use KDE. Where
On 10/18/2014 12:59 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
/snip/
I think that depends on what solution you propose, smart people listen.
AMEN!
I can say that I long ago upgraded to Jessie/systemd so that I could be
the first to yell about it. I'm still looking at a 4 monitor/ 2 video
card setup
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 01:26:11 -0400
Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
/Snip/
That's not the problem. A few people have recognized the problem(s).
1--Putting all your eggs (programs) in one basket. Making almost
everything have a dependency on systemd. Registry, anyone?
2--Forcing the
Now let's see what happens with this!
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg1.html
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