Hi.
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 10:29:36AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On 7/5/19 2:42 AM, Reco wrote:
> > Last time I travelled to England - they took my fingerprints beforehand,
> > and checked them at Heathrow's customs. Suffice to say I'd be sent back
> > home on a nearest airplane if they
On 7/5/19 2:42 AM, Reco wrote:
Last time I travelled to England - they took my fingerprints beforehand,
and checked them at Heathrow's customs. Suffice to say I'd be sent back
home on a nearest airplane if they haven't match.
Last time I traveled to England (2017), they didn't even check my
Hi.
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 04:33:30PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 4/07/19 3:34 AM, Reco wrote:
> > You cannot change your fingerprint (legally, that is).
>
> Say what? Are you saying there's a jurisdiction in which it's illegal
> for me to sand off, cut, or otherwise mutillate my
On 4/07/19 3:34 AM, Reco wrote:
> You cannot change your fingerprint (legally, that is).
Say what? Are you saying there's a jurisdiction in which it's illegal
for me to sand off, cut, or otherwise mutillate my own fingerprint?
Richard
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On 2019-07-04, deloptes wrote:
> Renato Gallo wrote:
>
>> Fingerprints are a good option
>>
>> Renato Gallo
>>
>
> No, they are not and it was explained previously why
>
Sure they are (depending on the use case/implementation). These things are
completely comparative and situational and your
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 03:00:24PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> Most people mistype at some time; have you considered why your father
> might be doing it? Logins with convoluted or complex passwords do not
> help, so consider 12345678 or the date of his birthday. I'm tempted to
> say that either would
Renato Gallo wrote:
> For the use his old father might do with a computer I think that cheap
> board could do. Plus, it's used by babies can be used by everyone.
> Plus, it's ready out of the box for the use it's meant.
> Plus can be customized for his father use like a tailored tuxedo (better
>
Renato Gallo wrote:
> Fingerprints are a good option
>
> Renato Gallo
>
No, they are not and it was explained previously why
Renato Gallo wrote:
> You did but nevertheless to give such an option would be a bad idea
> (someone could be crazy enough to be tempted to use it).
For his fathers computer - are you serious? I guess his father does not
care.
On Wed 03 Jul 2019 at 18:34:28 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 03:29:27PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> > Would be nice for any cracker if it could be possible to get access by
> > shoulder surfing my fingerprint reader ;)
One hears gruesome stories about fingerprint security.
>
> For the use his old father might do with a computer I think that cheap
> board could do.
Cheap or not, new hardware implies more garbage to dispose of, (a lot)
more carbon emissions to produce the new hardware, ...
BTW, for all I know, the OP might already be running Raspbian on a PI ;-)
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 06:34:28PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 03:29:27PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> > Would be nice for any cracker if it could be possible to get access by
> > shoulder surfing my fingerprint reader ;)
>
> Using a fingerprint instead of a
Hi.
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 03:29:27PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> Would be nice for any cracker if it could be possible to get access by
> shoulder surfing my fingerprint reader ;)
Using a fingerprint instead of a password is a bad idea. Using a
fingerprint instead of a username -
writes:
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 01:34:00PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> Jonas Smedegaard writes:
>>
>> > Quoting Rodolfo Medina (2019-07-03 14:42:13)
>>
>>
>> Thanks indeed... He will do... making errors in typing a blind password
>> and re-typing it again and again till it's all
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:19:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> You mean, password login via ssh is automatically disabled for
> a passwordless user?
>
> Smart move, that :)
That's correct. A passwordless account cannot login via ssh using
password authentication. You just get a failure
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:13:44PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de (12019-07-03):
> > That said, you might want to disable ssh logins for that user
>
> They are not stupid: that is already the default.
You mean, password login via ssh is automatically disabled for
a passwordless
to...@tuxteam.de (12019-07-03):
> That said, you might want to disable ssh logins for that user
They are not stupid: that is already the default.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
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On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 01:34:00PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Jonas Smedegaard writes:
>
> > Quoting Rodolfo Medina (2019-07-03 14:42:13)
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks... of course it is... absolutely. I wanted to have him accustomed
> >> with using a password... only, he still does many
Renato Gallo writes:
> http://www.eldy.eu/software/download/
>
> Renato Gallo
Well, thanks, but... no, I just want him to use it the same way I do... in
the clever Linux and Debian Linux manner that we all know and appreciate..
Making things too easy is not always a good idea...
Cheers,
http://www.eldy.eu/software/download/
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: andreimpope...@gmail.com
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 4:33:44 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
On Mi, 03 iul 19, 14:17:34, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
> Thanks for
On Mi, 03 iul 19, 14:17:34, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
> Thanks for your suggestion... No, it's very simple and familiar with him...
A keyboard with a different layout (e.g. alphabetic) might also help
with the password.
> it's just that he's at his really first experiences with a computer
Brian writes:
> On Wed 03 Jul 2019 at 13:34:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks indeed... He will do... making errors in typing a blind password
>> and re-typing it again and again till it's all right... ;-)
>
> Most people mistype at some time; have you considered why your father
On Wed 03 Jul 2019 at 13:34:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Jonas Smedegaard writes:
>
> > Quoting Rodolfo Medina (2019-07-03 14:42:13)
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks... of course it is... absolutely. I wanted to have him accustomed
> >> with using a password... only, he still does many errors
Jonas Smedegaard writes:
> Quoting Rodolfo Medina (2019-07-03 14:42:13)
>>
>>
>> Thanks... of course it is... absolutely. I wanted to have him accustomed
>> with using a password... only, he still does many errors at keyboard...
>
> I think I understand the scope of this challenge.
>
>
Would be nice for any cracker if it could be possible to get access by shoulder
surfing my fingerprint reader ;)
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "Carl Fink"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 3:10:18 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password sh
Quoting Rodolfo Medina (2019-07-03 14:42:13)
> Håkon Alstadheim writes:
>
> > Den 03.07.2019 13:24, skrev Rodolfo Medina:
> >> Hi all...
> >>
> >> Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into
> >> Debian in tty console, or also within X system when changing to
> >> root?
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:17:45PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> If you are living alone in a bunker under an alien planet surface ok
> "shoulder surfing is not an issue"
If someone is shoulder-surfing, and really wants the password, she will just
watch your fingers, Renato. Slightly harder but
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:42:46PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> Raspberry pi's Raspbian has X without password by default.
But that's... insecure! Bh :^)
Really: replacing clear-text password in a console with autologin
for X. Sheesh.
Now more seriously:
- the OP has explicitly asked for
Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
> You forgot the "probably sharing" part of the message.
> You forgot that Rasbian is Debian for Raspberry pi + Desktop autologin by
> default (without the research and config part).
> You forgot that Raspberry is really cheap.
I forgot none of this things. You
Fingerprints are a good option
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "Jonas Smedegaard"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 3:00:04 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
Quoting to...@tuxteam.de (2019-07-03 14:12:22)
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2
;Nicolas George"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:56:19 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
> For the use his old father might do with a computer I think that cheap board
> could do.
And what is he supposed to do with the comp
Nicolas George writes:
> Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
>> For the use his old father might do with a computer I think that cheap board
>> could do.
>
> And what is he supposed to do with the computer he already has for that
> purpose? Throw it away?
>
>> Plus can be customized for his father use
Quoting to...@tuxteam.de (2019-07-03 14:12:22)
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:24:54AM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into
> > Debian in tty console, or also within X system when changing to
> > root? It is for my old father... it'd
Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
> For the use his old father might do with a computer I think that cheap board
> could do.
And what is he supposed to do with the computer he already has for that
purpose? Throw it away?
> Plus can be customized for his father use like a tailored tuxedo
You realize
they are probably sharing).
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "Nicolas George"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:44:44 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
> Raspberry pi's Raspbian has X without passwor
Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
> Raspberry pi's Raspbian has X without password by default.
> The new board raspberry 4 is out with 4 gigs and a better cpu (I have
> preordered it for around 60 € from melopero shop).
> Might be a nice solution for the old father.
Are you really suggesting buying
dheim"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:24:42 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
Den 03.07.2019 13:24, skrev Rodolfo Medina:
> Hi all...
>
> Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into Debian in
> tty console, or also withi
Håkon Alstadheim writes:
> Den 03.07.2019 13:24, skrev Rodolfo Medina:
>> Hi all...
>>
>> Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into Debian
>> in tty console, or also within X system when changing to root? It is for my
>> old father... it'd be easier for him to see
You did but nevertheless to give such an option would be a bad idea
(someone could be crazy enough to be tempted to use it).
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "Rodolfo Medina"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:26:24 PM
Subject: Re: How to
Renato Gallo writes:
> and that's s good security-wise
>
> Renato Gallo
Renato, thanks...
but didn't I clearly specify the special circumstances of my (strange, I agree)
request...? It seems to me that I did...
Cheers,
Rodolfo
Den 03.07.2019 13:24, skrev Rodolfo Medina:
Hi all...
Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into Debian in
tty console, or also within X system when changing to root? It is for my old
father... it'd be easier for him to see what he's typing. In internet I found
If you are living alone in a bunker under an alien planet surface ok "shoulder
surfing is not an issue"
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "tomas"
To: "renato"
Cc: "Rodolfo Medina" , "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019
Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
> and that's s good security-wise
The good practice, security-wise, is to start by understanding the
situation and the threat.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
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On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:10:50PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> one of the worst ideas I've ever heard since 1974
>
> read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder_surfing_(computer_security)
I assume Rodolfo knows all that. Perhaps the context is one where
shoulder surfing is not an issue.
and that's s good security-wise
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: to...@tuxteam.de
To: "Rodolfo Medina"
Cc: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:12:22 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:24:54AM +,
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:24:54AM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Hi all...
>
> Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into Debian in
> tty console, or also within X system when changing to root? It is for my old
> father... it'd be easier for him to see what he's
: "Rodolfo Medina"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:24:54 PM
Subject: How to have password shown?
Hi all...
Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into Debian in
tty console, or also within X system when changing to root? It is for my
Hi all...
Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into Debian in
tty console, or also within X system when changing to root? It is for my old
father... it'd be easier for him to see what he's typing. In internet I found
some procedures to have asterisks shown; would it
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