Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-09 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Most probably it is unintentional [1], but in the end: does it matter? > A state-level actor (or equivalent) just has the resources to find > those exploits first. Why go to the length of planting any, since > there is such a rich "natural" source to harvest from? Given

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 12:00 AM, deloptes wrote: > [...] > As for some conspiracy chips with embedded rom if you have basic > engineering knowledge you could easily identify all of it and to my > knowledge it is not trivial to embed such a chip into a mass product, >

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 10:46:34PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > No need for the bad guys to shoehorn a spy processor on your machine. [...] > but it says there it is exploit - so was this intentionally placed there or >

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-09 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > No need for the bad guys to shoehorn a spy processor on your machine. > There are enough already in there (Intel's ME, disk controllers, what > not) with enough vulnerabilities ready to do the NSA's bidding (or FSB, > or whoever is your favourite enemy these days). but

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 05:00:26PM +0200, deloptes wrote: [...] > As for some conspiracy chips with embedded rom if you have basic > engineering knowledge you could easily identify all of it and to my > knowledge it is not trivial to embed such

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-09 Thread deloptes
Fungi4All wrote: > After meshing around a bit more with this pseudo debian environment > I am convinced that it is not worth my time and effort to deal with this. > I am taping it on top of my guitar amp to play mp3s as backing/practice > tracks and I think that it is the best it is good for

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-09 Thread Fungi4All
> From: delop...@gmail.com > Fungi4All wrote: >>> The hardware can not track your activities - it is the software >> >> I know that, but it can include capabilities for specific sw to take >> advantage of. >> > To what extent it is different from your PC, which also can include those >

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-09 Thread deloptes
Fungi4All wrote: >> The hardware can not track your activities - it is the software > > I know that, but it can include capabilities for specific sw to take > advantage of. > To what extent it is different from your PC, which also can include those capabilities. >>> The latest interpretation

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-09 Thread Fungi4All
> From: delop...@gmail.com > Fungi4All wrote: >> On a previous question of why I hate such devices I think Joe has >> answered for me in most counts. I really believe they were designed >> from scratch to monitor every minute of anyone"s life. Just in case >> at any point in the future some

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-08 Thread deloptes
Fungi4All wrote: > On a previous question of why I hate such devices I think Joe has > answered for me in most counts. I really believe they were designed > from scratch to monitor every minute of anyone's life. Just in case > at any point in the future some authority may want to back track the >

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-08 Thread Fungi4All
> UTC Time: July 8, 2017 7:50 AM > From: j...@jretrading.com > On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 09:06:51 +0200 > deloptes wrote: >> I am following the work of Jolla (SailFish OS) and their community >> ports, but honestly without (Android) apps what do you use this >> device for? I

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-08 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > I think that the Holy Grail for many people is a genuinely pocket-sized > computer with Internet, GPS, etc., running a real, general-purpose > operating system, not a marketing medium. I have an Acer One netbook, > which is nearly what I want except for the size. But then, I do like

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-08 Thread Joe
On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 09:06:51 +0200 deloptes wrote: > > I am following the work of Jolla (SailFish OS) and their community > ports, but honestly without (Android) apps what do you use this > device for? I think Ubuntu has also project targeting mobile devices. > I

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-08 Thread deloptes
> I've been looking at this page for a while, > > https://www.linux.com/learn/how-get-open-source-android > > But the information there is old and getting older. The main question is if you get support for the hardware. If you don't get support for the hardware, it renders the device unusable.

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-07 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Fungi4All wrote: > > From: joel.r...@gmail.com > To: debian users > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Fungi4All wrote: >> [...] >> Installing a real debian will require first

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-05 Thread Fungi4All
> From: joel.r...@gmail.com > To: debian users > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Fungi4All wrote: >> Although I despise such devices, my only experience has been >> helping a friend out locating certain settings and installing the proper >>

Re: Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-04 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Fungi4All wrote: > Although I despise such devices, my only experience has been > helping a friend out locating certain settings and installing the proper > software for specific uses. > Lately, a problematic one, ended up in my hands as

Installing Debian on an android device

2017-07-04 Thread Fungi4All
Although I despise such devices, my only experience has been helping a friend out locating certain settings and installing the proper software for specific uses. Lately, a problematic one, ended up in my hands as the owner gave up on it and purchased a better one. The problem seemed to be either