Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-11 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: apt-mark showmanual Wow! This command is very useful! Thank you! =) pgpxElOsR0H4I.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-09 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: Ken Heard wrote: # dpkg --get-selections '*' selection.dpkg That is definitely the old venerable way of doing this on Debian from a decade of years ago. When working on the same version of Debian it even worked relatively well. Then. But now we have

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Dmitrii Kashin wrote: Bob Proulx writes: Ken Heard wrote: in APT supporting 'apt-get autoremove'. With regards to that the above no longer works well. For one problem it completely breaks the extended_states paradigm. The extended_states paradigm is to track for each package whether

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/7/2013 2:04 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Instead it would make more sense to install a fresh Wheezy system and then install the top level packages you require. I would normally do this. I would set up a new

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Jerry Stuckle wrote: It's pretty obvious you're not familiar with production servers for small/medium business. Not a criticism, but an observation. Maintaining one of these is not at all like maintaining your desktop or personal server. Requirements are much different. Oh sigh. By the

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/7/2013 11:50 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: It's pretty obvious you're not familiar with production servers for small/medium business. Not a criticism, but an observation. Maintaining one of these is not at all like maintaining your desktop or personal server. Requirements

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. This is a question that appears on the list every so often. People want to be able to do this. But unfortunately it isn't easy to do

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Jerry Stuckle wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Instead it would make more sense to install a fresh Wheezy system and then install the top level packages you require. I would normally do this. I would set up a new machine. Then manually put in the work to move each task over from the old to

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-06 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/6/2013 4:49 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Instead it would make more sense to install a fresh Wheezy system and then install the top level packages you require. I would normally do this. I would set up a new machine. Then manually put in the work

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. This is a question that appears on the list every so often. People

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Instead it would make more sense to install a fresh Wheezy system and then install the top level packages you require. I would normally do this. I would set up a new machine. Then manually put in the work

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. Why can't you just upgrade? IOW, unlikely that you'll get any help with your jump through the

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. Why can't you just upgrade? IOW, unlikely that

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: Will this command sequence generally work when the from box has Squeeze and the to box has Wheezy? Specifically, will the packages installed in the Wheezy box having the same names as the ones in the Squeeze box be the Wheezy versions

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 November 2013 12:19:45 Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want ^ to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. Why can't

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 04/11/13 14:50, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/4/2013 10:05 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 04/11/13 14:50, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 04/11/13 18:05, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 10:05 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 04/11/13 14:50, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20131102_142017, Ken Heard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. In section 2.7.16 of Aoki Osamu San's excellent Debian Reference,

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: On 20131102_142017, Ken Heard wrote: You can make a local copy of the package and debconf selection states by the following. # dpkg --get-selections '*' selection.dpkg # debconf-get-selections

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Joe
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:20:58 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 November 2013 12:19:45 Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want ^ to

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/4/2013 9:50 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday, November 04, 2013 01:20:01 PM Tony van der Hoff wrote: No, it didn't work for me. I would have much preferred to automate this. However, AFAICT the tools aren't available, and the time comes where you feel you're beating your head against a wall. That's when I gave up. I'm not

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 01:03:58PM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: So what I'm going to do is build a new server, install the same software that's on the current one, then reply the modifications to the configuration files. Once it is thoroughly tested, I will replace the old one with the new

Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-02 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. In section 2.7.16 of Aoki Osamu San's excellent Debian Reference, titled Recording and copying system