- Original Message -
From: Frank McCormick
Sent: 05/08/14 09:00 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Journalist Glenn Greenwald and open-internet activist Alexis Ohanian go
head up against American civil liberties lawyer Allan Dershowitz
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Allen
Sent: 05/08/14 08:37 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
They have too much to do even that - you gotta keep up to date on recent
news my friend. That's the problem with mass surveillance of the world,
too
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 05:50:47PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 03:44:14PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Joel Rees
Sent: 05/07/14 09:01 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:44 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.comwrote:
- Original Message -
From: Joel Rees
Sent: 05/07/14 09:01 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
But this particular thread is not serving the interests of debian users
Somebody:
I do not for once believe Debian OS is free of bugs and bad coding.
Somebody else:
And?
For good reasons I use Arch Linux and Debian. Both distros are buggy, by
some definition. C'mon! For my needs I can't simply install Debian
stable. Pro-audio is a freakish need. Assumed Debian stable
On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 15:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Assumed Debian stable does fit to
your needs and you install security updates, then you have got the best
OS for a modern computer, that is available, regarding to Internet
security.
My apologies, some very smart people prefer FreeBSD. I
On 08/05/2014 14:59, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 15:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Assumed Debian stable does fit to
your needs and you install security updates, then you have got the best
OS for a modern computer, that is available, regarding to Internet
security.
My apologies,
On 08/05/2014 07:18, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Allen
Sent: 05/08/14 08:37 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
They have too much to do even that - you gotta keep up to date on recent
news my friend. That's the problem
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 09:00:46PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
On 07/05/14 08:32 PM, Stephen Allen wrote:
There was a debate in Toronto this past Friday with the past director of
NSA/CIA, Glen Greenwald (and 2 other people whose names I just can't
remember right now) - When Glen mentioned
-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
But this particular thread is not serving the interests of debian users.
Old news. Most of it incorrectly reported.
I differ. I do not for once believe Debian OS is free of bugs and bad
coding. The recent Heartbleed
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Theodore Alcapotaxis
theota...@mail.com wrote:
From: Patrick Wiseman
Sent: 05/07/14 05:40 AM
To: Debian User Lists
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Will you people please take this crap off-list?
Patrick, which parts of the topic make you uncomfortable
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 03:09:22 Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Wiseman
Sent: 05/07/14 05:40 AM
To: Debian User Lists
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Will you people please take this crap off-list?
Patrick
Patrick, which parts
: Is zeitgeist safe?
Unintentional data leakage? Script kiddies, marketers, spammers, ad
networks?
With NSA, nothing is unintentional.
You give them more credit then deserved. They gather so much data they
can't analyze it all at this point in time - they still don't know how
much
Old news, whether misquoted or otherwise, can be used for misinformation.
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.comwrote:
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Wiseman
Sent: 05/07/14 05:40 AM
To: Debian User Lists
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe
- Original Message -
From: Joel Rees
Sent: 05/07/14 09:01 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
But this particular thread is not serving the interests of debian users.
Old news. Most of it incorrectly reported.
I differ. I do not for once believe
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Stuckle
Sent: 05/07/14 11:09 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
And
their HQ are less than 10 miles from me. In fact, I'll be right over
that way Thursday.
Jerry
Hello Jerry,
If you are going to drop
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 11:09:28PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/6/2014 10:04 PM, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Allen
Sent: 05/07/14 09:36 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
You give them more credit
@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Unintentional data leakage? Script kiddies, marketers, spammers, ad
networks?
With NSA, nothing is unintentional.
You give them more credit then deserved. They gather so much data they
can't analyze it all at this point in time - they still don't
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 03:44:14PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Joel Rees
Sent: 05/07/14 09:01 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
But this particular thread is not serving the interests of debian users.
Old
On 07/05/14 08:32 PM, Stephen Allen wrote:
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 11:09:28PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/6/2014 10:04 PM, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Allen
Sent: 05/07/14 09:36 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe
On Tuesday, 06 May, 2014 09:11 AM, John Hasler wrote:
Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
It seems that some folks at Debian have introduced NSA-friendly
software to spy on users.
Produce specifics.
On Monday, 05 May, 2014 08:13 AM, A Debian User wrote:
From the package description of zeitgeist
- Original Message -
From: John Hasler
Sent: 05/06/14 09:11 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Produce specifics.
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Didn't you know that all NSA contractors, including ex-employee Edward
- Original Message -
From: A Debian User
Sent: 05/06/14 09:42 AM
To: filip, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
So, have you removed it completely from your system, or did you just disable
it? How does it break functionality on your end?
I removed
- Original Message -
From: A Debian User
Sent: 05/06/14 09:44 AM
To: Theodore Alcapotaxis, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Unintentional data leakage? Script kiddies, marketers, spammers, ad networks?
With NSA, nothing is unintentional
Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
Did you know that Linus Torvalds had to include some NSA-friendly code
(a.k.a. backdoors) in his Linux OS?
Version, file name, line number.
BTW do you know the meaning of the word libel?
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On 05/06/2014 02:36 PM, A Debian User wrote:
On Tuesday, 06 May, 2014 09:11 AM, John Hasler wrote:
Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
It seems that some folks at Debian have introduced NSA-friendly
software to spy on users.
Produce specifics.
On Monday, 05 May, 2014 08:13 AM, A Debian User
On 20140506_1525-0500, John Hasler wrote:
Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
Did you know that Linus Torvalds had to include some NSA-friendly code
(a.k.a. backdoors) in his Linux OS?
Version, file name, line number.
BTW do you know the meaning of the word libel?
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Will you people please take this crap off-list?
Patrick
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
On 20140506_1525-0500, John Hasler wrote:
Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
Did you know that Linus Torvalds had to include some NSA-friendly code
(a.k.a.
On 20140506_1554-0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John Hasler
Sent: 05/06/14 09:11 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Produce specifics.
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jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
Didn't you
On 07/05/14 10:09, Paul E Condon wrote:
It was a very clever talk, and much talked about at the time. But now
the real innovator of the idea is no longer with us to defend his
priority.
I think you're talking about Ken Thompson, and according to Wikipedia at
least he's still around.
Richard
Paul E Condon writes:
I am aware of a long paper by one of the people involved in the
original development of UNIX and C at Bell Labs in which he described
in great detail how one might plant back doors in UNIX code and cover
one's tracks by modifying the whole tool chain of the C language to
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 03:57:27PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: A Debian User
Sent: 05/06/14 09:44 AM
To: Theodore Alcapotaxis, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Unintentional data leakage? Script kiddies
On 05/06/2014 09:36 PM, Stephen Allen wrote:
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 03:57:27PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: A Debian User
Sent: 05/06/14 09:44 AM
To: Theodore Alcapotaxis, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Unintentional
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Allen
Sent: 05/07/14 09:36 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
You give them more credit then deserved. They gather so much data they
can't analyze it all at this point in time - they still don't know how
much
- Original Message -
From: Doug
Sent: 05/07/14 09:57 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
They don't try to analyze it all. They look for keywords--like bomb,
shoot, jihad, and who knows what others. Then they just analyze
texts that include them
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Wiseman
Sent: 05/07/14 05:40 AM
To: Debian User Lists
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Will you people please take this crap off-list?
Patrick
Patrick, which parts of the topic make you uncomfortable?
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- Original Message -
From: John Hasler
Sent: 05/07/14 04:25 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Version, file name, line number.
BTW do you know the meaning of the word libel?
As I wrote earlier, NSA contractors are sworn to secrecy about
- Original Message -
From: Paul E Condon
Sent: 05/07/14 06:09 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
I think this claim about Linus Torvalds is apocryphal
I hate to prove you wrong.
Linus' father, Nils Torvalds, is a Member of the European Parliament
On 5/6/2014 10:04 PM, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Allen
Sent: 05/07/14 09:36 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
You give them more credit then deserved. They gather so much data they
can't analyze it all at this point
On Sun, 04 May 2014 21:18:14 -0400
Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.com wrote:
Safe from what? from whom?
It's not safe from spying eyes. If you run a tool like bleachbit, you
may think that you have deleted all your history, but at first sight
the version shipped by Debian doesn't
- Original Message -
From: filip
Sent: 05/05/14 02:08 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
It's not safe from spying eyes. If you run a tool like bleachbit, you may
think that you have deleted all your history, but at first sight the version
Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
It seems that some folks at Debian have introduced NSA-friendly
software to spy on users.
Produce specifics.
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On Monday, 05 May, 2014 02:08 PM, filip wrote:
On Sun, 04 May 2014 21:18:14 -0400
Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.com wrote:
Safe from what? from whom?
It's not safe from spying eyes. If you run a tool like bleachbit, you
may think that you have deleted all your history, but at first
On Monday, 05 May, 2014 09:18 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
Is this thing safe? How does uninstalling it break functionality?
P.S. This package is also recommended by software-center.
Safe from what? from whom?
Unintentional data leakage? Script kiddies, marketers, spammers, ad
networks?
From the package description of zeitgeist or zeitgeist-core:
Zeitgeist is a service which logs the user's activities and events
(files opened, websites visited, conversations held with other people,
et.c ) and makes the relevant information available to other applications.
It serves as a
Is this thing safe? How does uninstalling it break functionality?
P.S. This package is also recommended by software-center.
Safe from what? from whom?
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