Re: Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Sep 2016 at 17:44:39 (+0200), Nicolas George wrote: > Le septidi 17 fructidor, an CCXXIV, David Wright a écrit : > > Basically, if "KiB Swap: ... 0 used," is anything but zero, I might as > > well reboot; any idea of getting work done while swapping is risible, > > If you have to look

Re: Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-02 Thread Curt
On 2016-09-02, David Wright wrote: > > "Doing things manually from the shell may interfere with the > installation process and result in errors or an incomplete > installation. In particular, you should always use let the installer

Re: Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-02 Thread Nicolas George
Le septidi 17 fructidor, an CCXXIV, David Wright a écrit : > Basically, if "KiB Swap: ... 0 used," is anything but zero, I might as > well reboot; any idea of getting work done while swapping is risible, If you have to look at the output of a command do notice the swap is in use, that means you

Re: Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Sep 2016 at 09:40:55 (+0200), Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 01.09.2016 um 16:44 schrieb David Wright: > > On Thu 01 Sep 2016 at 13:11:22 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 07:02:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>> On 8/31/2016 11:25 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>>

Re: Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 9/1/2016 8:56 AM, claude juif wrote: By the way you can have a look at debootstrap if you want multiple debian install, (only one booted OS, but multiple Debian OS accessible with chroot)If you want more powerfull way of doing this you can check lxc, and docker. Today multiboot seem really

Re: Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 01.09.2016 um 16:44 schrieb David Wright: > On Thu 01 Sep 2016 at 13:11:22 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 07:02:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> On 8/31/2016 11:25 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> I believe this justifies a bug report against the installer. >>> My

Re: Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Sep 2016 at 13:11:22 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 07:02:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >On 8/31/2016 11:25 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>On 8/31/2016 10:44 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > >>>Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 09:58 (UTC-0500): > >>>... >

Re: Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread claude juif
2016-09-01 14:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Owlett : > On 8/31/2016 11:25 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 8/31/2016 10:44 AM, Felix Miata wrote: >> >>> Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 09:58 (UTC-0500): >>> ... >>> Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Job

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 01 September 2016 06:50:13 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/31/2016 11:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > > Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 11:25 (UTC-0500): > >> Commenting out the line in /etc/fstab DID allow it to boot > >> without warning messages. > >> > >> However,taking into account

Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/31/2016 11:25 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 8/31/2016 10:44 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 09:58 (UTC-0500): ... Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Job dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0a344714\x2dae06\x2d43ed\x2daf89\x2d33ba51934630.de Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/31/2016 11:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 11:25 (UTC-0500): Commenting out the line in /etc/fstab DID allow it to boot without warning messages. However,taking into account Darac's comments, does this now mean that the machines are now operating without

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 02:49:05PM -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:16:00AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I have Jessie installed on a desktop and a laptop. They both take about 105-110 seconds to boot. Squeeze on the desktop takes ~15 seconds to boot. My jessie

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Alan McConnell
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:16:00AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have Jessie installed on a desktop and a laptop. They both take about > 105-110 seconds to boot. Squeeze on the desktop takes ~15 seconds to boot. My jessie install also takes a long time to boot. A lot of it

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Wed 31 Aug 2016 at 11:25:17 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/31/2016 10:44 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > >Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 09:58 (UTC-0500): > >... > >>Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Job > >>dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0a344714\x2dae06\x2d43ed\x2daf89\x2d33ba51934630.de >

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 11:25 (UTC-0500): Commenting out the line in /etc/fstab DID allow it to boot without warning messages. However,taking into account Darac's comments, does this now mean that the machines are now operating without a swap partition? If fstab has no

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/31/2016 10:44 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 09:58 (UTC-0500): ... Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Job dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0a344714\x2dae06\x2d43ed\x2daf89\x2d33ba51934630.de Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Dominic Knight
On Wed, 2016-08-31 at 10:24 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:16:00AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > What's going on? > > Are the messages that scroll past preserved anywhere? > > When booting with systemd, the boot messages are stored in RAM > automatically, and can

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:00:27AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/31/2016 10:06 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >Look for swap partitions defined in /etc/fstab and see if one of them > >is on a device that no longer exists (or exists only intermittently, > >such as a removable USB drive). Chances

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/31/2016 10:06 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:58:39AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Job dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0a344714\x2dae06\x2d43ed\x2daf89\x2d33ba51934630.de Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 09:58 (UTC-0500): ... Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Job dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0a344714\x2dae06\x2d43ed\x2daf89\x2d33ba51934630.de Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0a344714\x2dae06\x2d43ed\x Aug

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:58:39AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Job > dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0a344714\x2dae06\x2d43ed\x2daf89\x2d33ba51934630.de > Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for > device

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:16:00AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I have Jessie installed on a desktop and a laptop. They both take about 105-110 seconds to boot. Squeeze on the desktop takes ~15 seconds to boot. Most of the delay seems to be in something that states approximately "A start job

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/31/2016 9:24 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:16:00AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: What's going on? Are the messages that scroll past preserved anywhere? When booting with systemd, the boot messages are stored in RAM automatically, and can be viewed by running

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:16:00AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > What's going on? > Are the messages that scroll past preserved anywhere? When booting with systemd, the boot messages are stored in RAM automatically, and can be viewed by running "journalctl" as root. I'd definitely start there.

Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-08-31 Thread Richard Owlett
I have Jessie installed on a desktop and a laptop. They both take about 105-110 seconds to boot. Squeeze on the desktop takes ~15 seconds to boot. Most of the delay seems to be in something that states approximately "A start job is running for dev-disk-by\x2duuid?.device (t}" Where