Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Sun 02 Apr 2017 at 01:56:22 +1300, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 07:13:26PM +, Brian wrote: > > Apropos nothing. Columbus knew exactly where he was going and why. He > > just didn't get there. The exact route he took didn't exist (or maybe > > philosohically

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Saturday 01 April 2017 19:55:22 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 04/01/2017 06:08 AM, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 06:47:06AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> On 03/14/2017 09:57 PM, Dean Valentine wrote: > >>> I have installed three operating systems on this computer:

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On 04/01/2017 06:08 AM, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 06:47:06AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 03/14/2017 09:57 PM, Dean Valentine wrote: I have installed three operating systems on this computer: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Arch Linux. None of them had any problems

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Sun 02 Apr 2017 at 01:56:22 (+1300), cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 07:13:26PM +, Brian wrote: > > Apropos nothing. Columbus knew exactly where he was going and why. He > > just didn't get there. The exact route he took didn't exist (or maybe > > philosohically

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On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 07:13:26PM +, Brian wrote: > Apropos nothing. Columbus knew exactly where he was going and why. He > just didn't get there. The exact route he took didn't exist (or maybe > philosohically it did but hadn't been travelled). But it was planned > using the Google

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 17:02:04 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 16 March 2017 20:08:16 Brian wrote: > > and we are told > > it is not the purpose of this list to answer practical problems by > > by guiding people to it. :) > > Oh, come Brian. We are also told that it is not the purpose of

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On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 10:46:57 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 20:08:16 (+), Brian wrote: > > > > There was never had any reason to disagree with the analysis. The > > queries starting this subthread > > > > > Is it just me, or are the "unofficial" images hard to get to?

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On Thursday 16 March 2017 20:08:16 Brian wrote: > and we are told > it is not the purpose of this list to answer practical problems by > by guiding people to it. :) Oh, come Brian. We are also told that it is not the purpose of Debian to pander to freaks and Geeks. We are told that the moon is

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 20:08:16 (+), Brian wrote: > On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 12:04:14 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 14:05:17 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:52:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > > > > Brian: > > > > > > > > > Documentation

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 12:04:14 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 14:05:17 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:52:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > > > Brian: > > > > > > > Documentation dispels ignorance. Dispelling ignorance requires the > > > >

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 14:05:17 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:52:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > > Brian: > > > > > Documentation dispels ignorance. Dispelling ignorance requires the > > > co-operation of the user. > > :-) > > > To recapitulate, the purpose of

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

David Wright wrote: >But irrespective of that, it would be sensible to make it as easy to >get from page A to http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ >without any right clicking or rubbing out, in the event that you get >drawn down this path. Whether that's a small proportion

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 04:07:42 +, Dean Valentine wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 08:43 Pete Orrall wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Dean Valentine > > wrote: > > > I don't have debian installed on my computer yet, nor can I access the

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:33:22PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 15 Mar 2017 at 23:21:12 (-0400), Carl Fink wrote: > > Not everyone has access to wired networks. I don't, to name just one > > example of a person who does not. My last Debian install, I had to > > use USB networking over my

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:52:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Brian: > > > Documentation dispels ignorance. Dispelling ignorance requires the > > co-operation of the user. :-) > To recapitulate, the purpose of the list as I understand it is not to

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Brian: > Documentation dispels ignorance. Dispelling ignorance requires the > co-operation of the user. To a well educated ms-windows or apfel-widows to try out and see whether they can live with debian, do you propose a couple of years of studying before they even try a live version? When one

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On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 03:19:00 +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Brian: > > It is also just as easy to find > > https://www.debian.org/CD/ > > and then > > https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ > > which leads to > > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ > > But he already

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 08:43 Pete Orrall wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Dean Valentine > wrote: > > I don't have debian installed on my computer yet, nor can I access the > > internet with it (because my wifi is down) so i don't understand

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Wed 15 Mar 2017 at 23:21:12 (-0400), Carl Fink wrote: > Not everyone has access to wired networks. I don't, to name just one > example of a person who does not. My last Debian install, I had to > use USB networking over my mobile phone to download non-free wifi > chipset firmware. That's neat.

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Not everyone has access to wired networks. I don't, to name just one example of a person who does not. My last Debian install, I had to use USB networking over my mobile phone to download non-free wifi chipset firmware. On 03/15/2017 11:13 PM, Davor Balder wrote: Do you have access to

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Brian: > It is also just as easy to find > https://www.debian.org/CD/ > and then > https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ > which leads to > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ But he already mentioned this link > without any right clicking or rubbing out. > What rules

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

Do you have access to ethernet port from your machine? If so, Debian installer *should* (in most cases) work with that until you install what you need to get WiFi working. In fact, that is how most of my recent Debian installs went... On 03/16/2017 01:45, Dean Valentine wrote: I don't have

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Wed 15 Mar 2017 at 20:27:08 (+), Brian wrote: > On Wed 15 Mar 2017 at 13:44:39 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > (Posted to debian-www as well.) > > > > On Wed 15 Mar 2017 at 12:21:14 (-0500), Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > Is it just me, or are the "unofficial" images hard to get to? For

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On Wed 15 Mar 2017 at 13:44:39 -0500, David Wright wrote: > (Posted to debian-www as well.) > > On Wed 15 Mar 2017 at 12:21:14 (-0500), Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > Is it just me, or are the "unofficial" images hard to get to? For example > > the FAQ says "Sometimes, someone is kind enough to

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Brian wrote: > > Anyway - some bedtime reading: > https://lwn.net/Articles/655519/ Thanks for that, a meeting report from Debian maintainer Steve McIntyre on this very subject from Debconf 2015 is linked from there:

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Wed 15 Mar 2017 at 14:48:48 -0400, Pete Orrall wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Nicholas Geovanis > wrote: > > Is it just me, or are the "unofficial" images hard to get to? > > Nicholas, I agree with you there. I don't know if it's intentional > but the

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Is it just me, or are the "unofficial" images hard to get to? Nicholas, I agree with you there. I don't know if it's intentional but the links to the unofficial images do seem rather hidden. -- Pete Orrall

Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

(Posted to debian-www as well.) On Wed 15 Mar 2017 at 12:21:14 (-0500), Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Is it just me, or are the "unofficial" images hard to get to? For example > the FAQ says "Sometimes, someone is kind enough to create unofficial > non-free CDs. If you cannot find any links on this

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Is it just me, or are the "unofficial" images hard to get to? For example the FAQ says "Sometimes, someone is kind enough to create unofficial non-free CDs. If you cannot find any links on this website, you can try asking on the debian-cd mailing list." Yet there is no link there to the unofficial

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On 15/03/17 14:45, Dean Valentine wrote: > I don't have debian installed on my computer yet, nor can I access the > internet with it (because my wifi is down) so i don't understand how I > would install the non-free package? This may help you.

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Dean Valentine wrote: > I don't have debian installed on my computer yet, nor can I access the > internet with it (because my wifi is down) so i don't understand how I would > install the non-free package? Hi Dean, You'll have to

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

I don't have debian installed on my computer yet, nor can I access the internet with it (because my wifi is down) so i don't understand how I would install the non-free package? On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:01 AM, Tim Ye wrote: > Hi, > > On 2017-03-15 07:57+0200, Johann Spies

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On 15/03/17 20:01, Tim Ye wrote: Hi, On 2017-03-15 07:57+0200, Johann Spies wrote: On 15 March 2017 at 06:57, Dean Valentine wrote: I have installed three operating systems on this computer: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Arch Linux. None of them had any problems

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

Hi, On 2017-03-15 07:57+0200, Johann Spies wrote: > On 15 March 2017 at 06:57, Dean Valentine wrote: > > > I have installed three operating systems on this computer: Linux Mint, > > Ubuntu, and Arch Linux. None of them had any problems detecting and using > > my

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On 03/14/2017 09:57 PM, Dean Valentine wrote: I have installed three operating systems on this computer: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Arch Linux. None of them had any problems detecting and using my "Network Manager: Qualcomm Atheros 003e", and it shows up on lspci, but when the Debian graphic

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On 15 March 2017 at 06:57, Dean Valentine wrote: > I have installed three operating systems on this computer: Linux Mint, > Ubuntu, and Arch Linux. None of them had any problems detecting and using > my "Network Manager: Qualcomm Atheros 003e", and it shows up on lspci,

Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

I have installed three operating systems on this computer: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Arch Linux. None of them had any problems detecting and using my "Network Manager: Qualcomm Atheros 003e", and it shows up on lspci, but when the Debian graphic installer attempts to do this, it fails and tells me