Bug-free software (was: Looking for an alternative to mysql)

2011-07-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:27:03 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: There is no software anywhere without bugs, both known and unknown. I've been told in all seriousness, by someone wh knew what he was saying, that Kruzeman Aretz's Algol 60 compiler, on the Electologica X-8 conputer, in its last

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 06:47:46PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: On 07/08/2011 06:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: Wayne writes: I am not in the habit of installing packages that known to not work. If the package was known not to work the bug would be grave.

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-09 Thread Aéris
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 08/07/2011 22:40, Nuno Magalhães a écrit : Upgrading database engine *IS* a complicated and highly risky task, regardless of the engine. And this task can't be done automatically, highly depending of what you do with your datadases. In production

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-09 Thread Aéris
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 08/07/2011 22:40, Nuno Magalhães a écrit : I must say i had a big trouble upgrading mysql last time i ran aptitude safe-upgrade; it just wouldn't upgrade since it couldn't shutdown the server (it wasn't even running anymore). Upgrading database

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
D G Teed wrote: snip Sorry, but your question seemed naive and still seems so. I was actually hoping to hear my understanding of your concern was wrong. There are thousands of web sites, big and small, using mysql and postgresql. They all have bugs, just as any Linux or another other OS we

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-09 Thread Wayne Topa
On 07/08/2011 06:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: Wayne writes: I am not in the habit of installing packages that known to not work. If the package was known not to work the bug would be grave. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities Thanks John. That made me try again, but a bit harder

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-09 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Don't forget to check the version of package libmysqlclient16. -- Best regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Wayne Topa
As I am doubtful as to mysql working in Debian anymore (see below) I need a database package that works for a change in debian. Is postgresql more reliable then mysql or are there other viable DB's? OLD-TESTINGNo Updates since Squeeze went Stable ~# ls

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Michael Checca
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:50:36 -0400, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: As I am doubtful as to mysql working in Debian anymore (see below) I need a database package that works for a change in debian. I've used MySQL since Lenny (I'm on Wheezy now) and I've had no problems at all. Is

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:50:36PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Is postgresql more reliable then mysql Yes, without a shadow of doubt. or are there other viable DB's? Yes, though I haven't used them myself, PostgreSQL serving my needs quite nicely. There are quite a number of alternatives;

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Wayne Topa
On 07/08/2011 12:55 PM, Michael Checca wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:50:36 -0400, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: As I am doubtful as to mysql working in Debian anymore (see below) I need a database package that works for a change in debian. I've used MySQL since Lenny (I'm on Wheezy

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Michael Checca
Could you share the output of dpkg -l mysql* |grep ^i ii mysql-client 5.1.57-3 MySQL database client (metapackage depending on the latest version) ii mysql-client-5.1 5.1.57-3 MySQL database client binaries ii mysql-common 5.1.57-3 MySQL

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Wayne Topa
On 07/08/2011 02:01 PM, Michael Checca wrote: Could you share the output of dpkg -l mysql* |grep ^i ii mysql-client 5.1.57-3 MySQL database client (metapackage depending on the latest version) ii mysql-client-5.1 5.1.57-3 MySQL database client binaries ii

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Wayne Topa
On 07/08/2011 12:57 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:50:36PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Is postgresql more reliable then mysql Yes, without a shadow of doubt. or are there other viable DB's? Yes, though I haven't used them myself, PostgreSQL serving my needs quite

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Pablo Sánchez
Firebird, either 2.1 or 2.5 are in squeeze . Pablo As I am doubtful as to mysql working in Debian anymore (see below) I need a database package that works for a change in debian. Is postgresql more reliable then mysql or are there other viable DB's? OLD-TESTINGNo Updates since

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread D G Teed
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/08/2011 12:57 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:50:36PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Is postgresql more reliable then mysql Yes, without a shadow of doubt. or are there other viable DB's? Yes,

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread William Hopkins
On 07/08/11 at 04:42pm, D G Teed wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/08/2011 12:57 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:50:36PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Is postgresql more reliable then mysql Yes, without a shadow of

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 17:57, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Is postgresql more reliable then mysql Yes, without a shadow of doubt. Why? I must say i had a big trouble upgrading mysql last time i ran aptitude safe-upgrade; it just wouldn't upgrade since it couldn't shutdown the

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Wayne Topa
On 07/08/2011 04:27 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 07/08/11 at 04:42pm, D G Teed wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/08/2011 12:57 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:50:36PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Is postgresql more reliable then

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread shawn wilson
There are many reasons to move away from mysql (standard) - your reason isn't a viable one. Postgresql has a friendlier license, more features, and has more compliant engines (and, IIRC a binary transaction log) Mongo works nice with js and is fast as hell. Drizzle (mysql fork) is better than

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Wayne Topa
On 07/08/2011 03:42 PM, D G Teed wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/08/2011 12:57 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:50:36PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Is postgresql more reliable then mysql Yes, without a shadow of doubt. or

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread John Hasler
WT writes: Only to the extent that I would like to install a working database on one of the Squeeze- Sid partitions and there are bugs in all I have tried so far. There are bugs in _everything_. We just happen to know about these ones. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread John Hasler
Wayne writes: I am not in the habit of installing packages that known to not work. If the package was known not to work the bug would be grave. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Wayne Topa
On 07/08/2011 06:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: Wayne writes: I am not in the habit of installing packages that known to not work. If the package was known not to work the bug would be grave. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities True! But I am seeing more non grave lately then I am

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread D G Teed
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/08/2011 03:42 PM, D G Teed wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/08/2011 12:57 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:50:36PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Is

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread shawn wilson
Heh, maybe you Google 'trusting trust'. It's cs 'theory'. On Jul 8, 2011 6:48 PM, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/08/2011 06:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: Wayne writes: I am not in the habit of installing packages that known to not work. If the package was known not to work the bug

Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-08 Thread Wayne Topa
On 07/08/2011 09:02 PM, D G Teed wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/08/2011 03:42 PM, D G Teed wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/08/2011 12:57 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at