On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 03:49:50PM -0400, Andrew Whitlock wrote:
A typical newbie won't start with Debian
While that is probably true, I don't think that should be the basis for
Debian's mode of operation. Debian needs new users and it needs to be
designed to appeal to new users
servicom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, when talking about newbies - a lot will probably be coming from
window$ so can't really survive unless they have a fancy graphical
installer/package manager (like gnorpm).
Hmm, gnome-apt? :) Usable, though it still needs a lot of improvement
from what
eric a . Farris wrote:
i think that'll be the kicker. those of use with (slow|no) connection
at home will pay a price, either through long download times, or having
to find/burn our own non-free CD. i would hope that, if non-free (and i
assume contrib must follow) is pulled that it would be
I don't know about you, but I never got a non-free cd with my official
Debian cd's. Non-free has never been a part of official Debian releases
AFAIK.
The problem friends lies in the fact that if support is withdrawn from the
developers, MANY users will be left without any idea about what to
Eric Hagglund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But it does cost money to put the non-free stuff on servers
Really, I don't think that's the issue. Resources have been mentioned,
but I think the idea is more of developers' time [1]; non-free is about
one-tenth the size of main, and changes relatively
Who or what is GR?
Thanks,
Daniel
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Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Who or what is GR?
GR stands for General Resolution, ie. the process Debian goes through
before making a vote on something.
As foreword:
please note that I can't figure the consequences that it can give
stopping
to provide bug track facilities.
then Debian will no longer provide the
storage, bandwidth, and bug tracking facilities for non-free packages,
including acroread, blender, netscape, jdk,
A typical newbie won't start with Debian
While that is probably true, I don't think that should be the basis for
Debian's mode of operation. Debian needs new users and it needs to be
designed to appeal to new users while still maintaining the qualities that
separate it from the other
need a x-based newbies set of defaults?
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Subject:Re: My quite ordinary comment about Re: GR to remove non-free
A typical newbie won't start with Debian
While that is probably true, I don't think that should be the basis for
Debian's mode of operation. Debian needs new users and it needs to be
designed to appeal to new users while still maintaining the qualities that
separate it from the other
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 03:49:50PM -0400, Andrew Whitlock wrote:
I'm a newbie, I started with Debian ^_^
greetings from another once-newbie that also started with Debian (four
years ago).
As a newbie to Debian and proud owner of a mere 56Kbps connection, I'd have
to say I much prefer stuff on
On Jun 08 2000, eric a . Farris wrote:
but, i have been playing around a bit with the new Mandrake 7.1, and
it sure is sweet...
I think that I have a question: is there any standard or
recommended way to upgrade an RPM-based system in way more or
less similar to Debian's
I wish I could get more information before throwing in
my two cents, but here goes:
I tend to agree with most of the comments here. I like
working with Debian and think that the package
managmenent tool is the best of the distributions that
I've worked with. I also like the fact that as things
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 04:08:59PM -0400, eric a . Farris wrote:
i think that'll be the kicker. those of use with (slow|no) connection
at home will pay a price, either through long download times, or having
to find/burn our own non-free CD. i would hope that, if non-free (and i
assume contrib
Nathan Norman writes:
Who makes a non-free CD now? That's the whole point of non-free; the
bits in there have license or patent issues that prevent distribution via
commercial media like CDs.
That is only one of the reasons for putting stuff in non-free. Others are
that modifications are
A typical newbie won't start with Debian
An important factor is the question of which package management system is
the best. In my experience, Debian's is the best when used with dselect/apt,
etc. All the deps are sorted out and I think this could be considered a real
boon for a newbie.
Of
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 05:48:29PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
(i.e., Netscape). The idea is that CD vendors can go through the licenses
and decide for themselves what to include. So far as I know none have done
so.
Steve McIntyre puts some extra stuff on his CDs - the slink set I got
from
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