Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-17 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Brian Ballsun-Stanton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010715 19:13]: This is my dilemma: to run samba-tng, I have to upgrade to unstable. My mandate explictly states that downtime is *BAD*, very, very, very, bad. How risky is running unstable? What shouldn't I do? Should I upgrade to 2.4.6? (I'm

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-16 Thread Sam Varghese
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 03:43:30AM +0100, Neil Durant wrote: Brian Ballsun-Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes This is my dilemma: to run samba-tng, I have to upgrade to unstable. My mandate explictly states that downtime is *BAD*, very, very, very, bad. How risky is running unstable? What

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-16 Thread Brian Ballsun-Stanton
I meant as a PDC :) File sharing, sure, it works with my 2k box now, but I heard that it uses legacy auth stuff. On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Sam Varghese wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:37:51 +1000 From: Sam Varghese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Newbieish

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-16 Thread Andy Saxena
Hi Brian, I recently went through two upgrade cycles - from stable (AKA Potato) to testing (AKA Woody), and then to unstable (AKA Sid). On Sid about a 100 or so packages are updated everyday. A few weeks ago, I had a severely disabled system when the PAM modules failed to function. In

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-16 Thread Brian Ballsun-Stanton
. On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Andy Saxena wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:48:50 -0400 From: Andy Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brian Ballsun-Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Newbieish question Hi Brian, I recently went through two upgrade cycles - from

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-16 Thread Jürgen A. Erhard
Andy == Andy Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andy On Sid about a 100 or so packages are updated everyday. A few weeks ago, I Andy had a severely disabled system when the PAM modules failed to function. In Andy essence, I couldn't log into the system. Another important rule for

Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread Brian Ballsun-Stanton
Please take pity :) I'm an extreme newbie to debian (having installed it for the first time about a week ago. I was assiged the task of setting up a 50 seat network, and since we're an edcuational institution, we have a really tight budget: the savings of not having to buy a $9 per person

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread Stephen Rueger
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 12:11:38PM -0700, Brian Ballsun-Stanton wrote: This is my dilemma: to run samba-tng, I have to upgrade to unstable. My mandate explictly states that downtime is *BAD*, very, very, very, bad. How risky is running unstable? What shouldn't I do? Should I upgrade to 2.4.6?

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread Brian Ballsun-Stanton
2001 04:21:21 +0200 From: Stephen Rueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Newbieish question Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:22:21 -0700 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 12:11:38PM -0700, Brian Ballsun-Stanton wrote: This is my

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread David Purton
On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Brian Ballsun-Stanton wrote: Unfortuantly, we'll still be using w2k clients. Now, not having my head completly buried in my ::cough:: I knew that samba could provide file sharing. Little did I know that samba-tng would provide good w2k access. This is my dilemma: to

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread Neil Durant
Brian Ballsun-Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Unfortuantly, we'll still be using w2k clients. Now, not having my head completly buried in my ::cough:: I knew that samba could provide file sharing. Little did I know that samba-tng would provide good w2k access. This is my dilemma: to run

Re: : Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread Stephen Rueger
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 12:24:30PM -0700, Brian Ballsun-Stanton wrote: Well, sorta ::chuckles:: I don't mind upgrading stuff (I think...) but... I don't know what not to do I think main question is: how unstable is unstable, and how do I make it more stable? I'd say, unstable is

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 04:21:21AM +0200, Stephen Rueger wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 12:11:38PM -0700, Brian Ballsun-Stanton wrote: This is my dilemma: to run samba-tng, I have to upgrade to unstable. My mandate explictly states that downtime is *BAD*, very, very, very, bad. How risky

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread Brian Ballsun-Stanton
:: On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, David Purton wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:57:17 +0930 (CST) From: David Purton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brian Ballsun-Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Newbieish question On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Brian Ballsun-Stanton wrote

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 12:37:21PM -0700, Brian Ballsun-Stanton wrote: Thank you, Its not so much upgrading to testing, or to 2.4... I'm just wondering if 2.4 will improve stablitity in unstable. The only thing I have to go to unstable for is samba-tng (for my 2k clients). And I want to

Re: : Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread Stephen Rueger
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 07:52:00PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 04:21:21AM +0200, Stephen Rueger wrote: Don't forget to apt-get upgrade :-) Actually if all you want to get from unstable is a few selected source packages, DON'T 'apt-get upgrade', but you must

Re: Newbieish question

2001-07-15 Thread John Hasler
Brian Ballsun-Stantonwrites: Thank you, Its not so much upgrading to testing, or to 2.4... I'm just wondering if 2.4 will improve stablitity in unstable. It will make no difference. Don't upgrade your kernel unless you need to. BTW, 'unstable' doesn't mean what you think it does. It isn't