On Tue 11 Apr 2017 at 12:39:00 (+), GiaThnYgeia wrote:
>
>
> Felix Miata:
> > My opinion is that people who want ancient hardware to continue to be
> > supported for the longest possible period of time must participate in
> > the development phase by testing on the very hardware that they
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-11 08:39 (UTC-0400):
Felix Miata:
Did including iomem=relaxed on your cmdline solve your problem, or did
it not?
I wouldn't know, the person for which I installed Debian for will not
dare switch to Stretch after this experience, will not even talk about
it.
Felix Miata:
> My opinion is that people who want ancient hardware to continue to be
> supported for the longest possible period of time must participate in
> the development phase by testing on the very hardware that they want to
> stay working when it's hardware that developers either no
deloptes:
> songbird wrote:
>
>> did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
>
> I doubt he does know about it
You doubt or you know?
I knew about it but I did not check it. There are many logs on /var/log
and its subdirectories. Can I interpret 3% of what they say? No! Do I
need to in order to
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 20:40 (UTC):
Felix Miata composed:
Debian-user is a user support forum, not a developer forum:
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songbird wrote:
> did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
I doubt he does know about it
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 14:32 (UTC):
>
>> you are responding technically in solving a technical problem that
>> I presented. For this I thank you. What I am now saying is that it is
>> unacceptable as a practice. At least there should be a patch installed
>> of listed
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 14:32 (UTC):
you are responding technically in solving a technical problem that
I presented. For this I thank you. What I am now saying is that it is
unacceptable as a practice. At least there should be a patch installed
of listed unsupported hardware that
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 10:18 (UTC):
>> Felix Miata:
>> Would this be IT?
>>1 sudo nano /etc/default/grub
>>2 GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet iomem=relaxed"
>>3 sudo update-grub
>
> It would be #1 below, the step to take after proving that iomem=relaxed
> is necessary
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 10:18 (UTC):
Felix Miata:
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC):
Felix Miata composed:
IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on
kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver
to work with your
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=847154
> * From Linux 4.8, several changes have been made in the kernel
> configuration to 'harden' the system, i.e. to mitigate security bugs.
> Some changes may cause legitimate applications to fail, and can be
> reverted by
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC):
>
>> Felix Miata composed:
>
>>> IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on
>>> kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver
>>> to work with your gfxchip in Stretch.
>
>> Thank you
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC):
Felix Miata composed:
IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on
kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver
to work with your gfxchip in Stretch.
Thank you for the help in answering the
Sorry,
I made a mistake earlier and replied on the wrong thread (Re: [Stretch,
9.0] Installation failed to install net-tools (from scratch
installation)), here is the output again listed for reference, although
the riddle seems to be solved by Felix on this same thread.
Output at the bottom
Felix Miata:
> IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on
> kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver
> to work with your gfxchip in Stretch.
Thank you for the help in answering the puzzle, but how is a
semi-i-literate person able to translate
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 13:45 (UTC):
Felix Miata:
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 10:22 (UTC):
See attached file for complete lshw of the failed stretch upgrade
You need to do it again but without lshw outputting in xml format. With
no switches lshw outputs in plain text,
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 10:22 (UTC):
See attached file for complete lshw of the failed stretch upgrade
You need to do it again but without lshw outputting in xml format. With no
switches lshw outputs in plain text, exactly the right format for an email
attachment.
However:
See attached file for complete lshw of the failed stretch upgrade
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 18:22 (UTC):
>
>> Felix Miata:
>
>>> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC):
>>> ...
Still, if Debian8 runs why does Debian9 fail? Simple upgrade from 8
to > 9,
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 18:22 (UTC):
Felix Miata:
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC):
...
Still, if Debian8 runs why does Debian9 fail? Simple upgrade from 8
to > 9, nothing else changed.
Kernel changed from 3.16 to 4.9, big difference if you have the wrong
gfxchip:
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
...
> Still, if Debian8 runs why does Debian9 fail? Simple upgrade from 8 to
> 9, nothing else changed. As soon as the update/grade finished and it is
> rebooted it is all black. Scraping the LXDE/lightdm/Openbox the login
> screen works fine and runs apt and everything else
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC):
> ...
>> This must be a 15y old machine, at least. I think it is a very early
>> Celeron > processor with about 256k video memory.
>
> What do 'lspci | grep VGA' and/or 'inxi -c0 -v1' show?
One of the reasons I wrote the post is
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC):
...
This must be a 15y old machine, at least. I think it is a very early Celeron > processor with about 256k video memory.
What do 'lspci | grep VGA' and/or 'inxi -c0 -v1' show?
Still, if Debian8 runs why does Debian9 fail? Simple upgrade from
I installed several times 8.7.1 LXDE and as soon as I forced Stretch on
it it will boot up but will not bring up a graphic display. Attempts to
revert and/or switch from LightDM to LXDM did not cure the problem.
The second time I updated 8.7.1 to its latest and then tried to make the
switch to
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