Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:46:38AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:31:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: ... I've been a computer user since before Mr. Torvalds was born. I just never had reason to have contact with *nix. Even when working for DEC I was much more

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:46:38AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:31:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: ... I've been a computer user since before Mr. Torvalds was born. I just never had reason to have contact with *nix. Even when working for DEC

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-17 Thread Richard Owlett
Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 01:53:47PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Terho Uotila wrote: Unless you want to try very minimal system you probably want shadow passwords. I do not understand. Going by text displayed during the installation I had the impression that shadow

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:31:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: ... I've been a computer user since before Mr. Torvalds was born. I just never had reason to have contact with *nix. Even when working for DEC I was much more into analog than digital. I see. I guess you were a VMS or some

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,I thought about different approach ... Since On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:46:38AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:31:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: ... I've been a computer user since before Mr. Torvalds was born. I just never had reason to have contact with

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-16 Thread Terho Uotila
Unless you want to try very minimal system you probably want shadow passwords. On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:04:21 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: 2. Did not enable shadow passwords (...) 3. Attempted su, neither root nor user password accepted You may have hit a bug. I noticed a problem with disabling

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-16 Thread Richard Owlett
Terho Uotila wrote: Unless you want to try very minimal system you probably want shadow passwords. I do not understand. Going by text displayed during the installation I had the impression that shadow passwords were for those overly paranoid about supposed incremental security advantages.

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 01:53:47PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Terho Uotila wrote: Unless you want to try very minimal system you probably want shadow passwords. I do not understand. Going by text displayed during the installation I had the impression that shadow passwords were for

Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-15 Thread Richard Owlett
Richard Owlett wrote: I've been doing a series of Debian installs over the last several months. YES. There are easier ways to do things. *BUT* my purpose is _educational_ rather than efficiency ;) I have a history of problems with the root password not being recognized. If the problem *DOES*