Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-09 Thread PMA
Speaking for myself -- Sometimes an off-topic email perks my interest so powerfully that, defying all reason of course, I neglect to disassociate the off-topic from the topic that it was off. I shall try harder now in such situations to discipline my response. PA Weaver wrote: On Sat, 08

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/7/2011 7:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 07/10/11 07:32, Weaver wrote: What I have seen, with the clearly marked OT threads is the ability to ignore/delete them Agreed. I've been trying like h3ll to avoid another response to this for obvious reasons. But a point needs to be raised

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Miles Fidelman
Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 10/7/2011 7:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: I've been trying like h3ll to avoid another response to this for obvious reasons. Me too. But... But a point needs to be raised that everyone should read and comprehend. OT messages get archived with the rest. Depending on

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 02:01:40 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: I've been trying like h3ll to avoid another response to this for obvious reasons. ... I have too. But it appears that I need to speak up on list. (I've previously apologized to Stan off list.) I hereby offer my most humble

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/8/2011 8:25 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: I can honestly say that I've yet to find this a problem - either when googling or going through list archives. Searches ALWAYS find lots of extraneous material and have to be narrowed down. When looking for technical information, things get very

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Terence
On 8 October 2011 20:22, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: If you all are true believers in off topic posting, as you have so vigorously defended, why don't we _all_ commit ourselves to making one OT post per day and see where that leads? Actually I am not one of true believers in

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Freeman
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:24:07AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 10/06/2011 06:32 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. If you are using an MUA that supports threading, then

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Weaver
On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:46:11 -0700 Freeman hew...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:24:07AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 10/06/2011 06:32 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more difficult to assist those who actually need help

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/8/2011 4:59 PM, Weaver wrote: It's a pity that's not the case, as I sometimes have a question regarding firewalls, etc and take it to the firewall list, yet the number of questions regarding firewalls I have seen on 'debian-user' probably far out-number those on 'firewall'. This

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Weaver
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:26:24 -0500 Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: On 10/8/2011 4:59 PM, Weaver wrote: It's a pity that's not the case, as I sometimes have a question regarding firewalls, etc and take it to the firewall list, yet the number of questions regarding firewalls I

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/10/11 09:26, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 10/8/2011 4:59 PM, Weaver wrote: It's a pity that's not the case, as I sometimes have a question regarding firewalls, etc and take it to the firewall list, yet the number of questions regarding firewalls I have seen on 'debian-user' probably far

Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2011 schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom: Stan Hoeppner wrote: All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. Debian is an OS for _mature_ Linux users. Please act like one and stop this

Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 10/07/2011 05:44 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: I do not like filtering out off topic mails, since as you wrote, some off topic threads can contain interesting stuff. The ubuntu-users list is suffering the same... Some people wanted Linux (via the distros) to be popular, now we suffer the

Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 7. Oktober 2011 schrieb Mihamina Rakotomandimby: On 10/07/2011 05:44 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: I do not like filtering out off topic mails, since as you wrote, some off topic threads can contain interesting stuff. The ubuntu-users list is suffering the same... Some people

Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Christopher Judd
On Friday 07 October 2011 10:44:29 Martin Steigerwald wrote: I think its a question of off topic versus on topic ratio. Due to threading feature in KMail its easy for me to ignore off topic stuff, but when it exceeds a certain amount I tend to get annoyed with it, cause then its more

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Joey Hess
Weaver wrote: The point has often been made that this list is for Debian 'Users' and not therefore strictly Debian subject matter. I think a bit of social interaction does have the tendency to create 'community' which is Debian's strength, so it could be viewed as productive. While this is

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/10/11 07:32, Weaver wrote: On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:15:07 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. Agreed (Stan), but

Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 08/10/11 01:49, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Freitag, 7. Oktober 2011 schrieb Mihamina Rakotomandimby: On 10/07/2011 05:44 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: I do not like filtering out off topic mails, since as you wrote, some off topic threads can contain interesting stuff. The ubuntu-users

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Weaver
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:58:39 +1100 Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/10/11 07:32, Weaver wrote: On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:15:07 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is

Please kill the noise

2011-10-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. Debian is an OS for _mature_ Linux users. Please act like one and stop this juvenile OT nonsense. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

[OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-06 Thread Miles Fidelman
Stan Hoeppner wrote: All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. Debian is an OS for _mature_ Linux users. Please act like one and stop this juvenile OT nonsense. What's your problem? It's interesting

[OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-06 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 10/06/2011 06:32 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. If you are using an MUA that supports threading, then I don't see the issue. It's all contained in one thread, and it

Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Stan Hoeppner wrote: All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. Debian is an OS for _mature_ Linux users. Please act like one and stop this juvenile OT nonsense. I personally look for who the sender is

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-06 Thread Weaver
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:15:07 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. Debian is an OS for _mature_ Linux users. Please act

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-06 Thread shawn wilson
I totally agree with what Weaver said. On Oct 6, 2011 4:31 PM, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote: On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:15:07 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more difficult to assist