Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2013-01-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:13:52 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: The correct way to supply a preseed file with auto=true is (I think) to only use preseed/url= or url=. Now, is that glaringly obvious to you or anyone else from section B.2.3. or elsewhere in the Manual? The manual

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-29 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:00:02 +0100 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: What is a SIG? Special Interest Group Is it an Americanism? Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-27 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Tom H wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Tom H wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: What is a SIG? It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SIGs Sorry. Term predates Linus Torvalds

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Press Down-Arrow to Help. Observe the help message, Display help screens; type 'menu' at the boot prompt to return to this menu. Press ENTER to select it. Press F3 to select Boot methods for special ways of using this netboot image. Observe that at the

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: auto url=file://mnt/,/preseed.cfg loaded by expanding file://mnt/,/preseed.cfg. auto=true url=file://mnt/,/preseed.cfg I think there is a typo in the above. To perhaps save some grief for someone reading the archives later I believe all of the above /,/ uses should have

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Richard Owlett wrote: It seems to have been lost in the shuffle, but do NOT have internet NOR high speed internet connectivity at home so all of my test installs are being done with a purchased set of Debian 6.0.5 DVDs with preseed.cfg on a USB stick. Sorry. In order to be able to help you

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-22 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:47:44 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Press Down-Arrow to Help. Observe the help message, Display help screens; type 'menu' at the boot prompt to return to this menu. Press ENTER to select it. Press F3 to select Boot methods for special ways of using this netboot image.

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:47:44 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: How are you inserting the preseed data when booting expert mode? I can only think of being able to do that one the command line. Is this question directed at Richard? I directed that to

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 06:53:26AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: But the underlying problem is lack of manpower. How do you[1] expect to solve it without getting involved? [1] and I mean you personally, the Debian Project

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Richard Owlett
Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: The preseed file needn't be on the network, Being present in an ISO and with url= pointing to it is sufficient. Or it could be on a USB stick. Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the file url syntax. But present in the iso then doesn't *need* the

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Dec 2012 at 12:06:41 +, Brian wrote: I'm adding to the command line with auto=true url=file:///mnt/preseed.cfg I'm having to adjust my mindset. :) That should be auto=true url=file:///mnt/./preseed.cfg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 17:22:34 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: The preseed file needn't be on the network, Being present in an ISO and with url= pointing to it is sufficient. Or it could be on a USB stick. Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the file url syntax. But

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Dec 2012 at 14:02:31 +, Brian wrote: On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 17:22:34 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: where it is talking about auto url=... is definitely incorrect. Taking this and your other mail into account is persuading me back to readopting my original view on the matter. We

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:30:35 -0600 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Hello Richard, Special Interest Group Is it an Americanism? It's a TLA, or Three Letter Acronym. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent It's

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:30:35 -0600 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Hello Richard, Special Interest Group Is it an Americanism? It's a TLA, or Three Letter Acronym. True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for assuming everybody had the same

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: The response I had hoped for was on the lines of there's a SIG for documentation which you can contact at What is a SIG? It's a Fedora-ism: special

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Tom H wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: The response I had hoped for was on the lines of there's a SIG for documentation which you can contact at What is a SIG? It's a Fedora-ism:

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 05:15:55 -0600 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Hello Richard, True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for assuming everybody had the same same background as I. I didn't get that impression. But hey, it's not my rep that on the line, potentially.

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Tom H wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: What is a SIG? It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SIGs Sorry. Term

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 12:12:01 Brad Rogers wrote: True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for assuming everybody had the same same background as I. I didn't get that impression. But hey, it's not my rep that on the line, potentially.   :-) I did, I'm afraid! After all,

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:08:08 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Lisi, I did, I'm afraid! After all, it is easy enough to look SIG up on acronymfinder and find out what it means. Andrei knows this perfectly True, but even within context, it's sometimes tricky pinpointing the

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 14:36:49 Brad Rogers wrote: I did, I'm afraid!  After all, it is easy enough to look SIG up on acronymfinder and find out what it means.  Andrei knows this perfectly True, but even within context, it's sometimes tricky pinpointing the right meaning.  Possibly not

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 17 dec 12, 18:30:35, Richard Owlett wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: The response I had hoped for was on the lines of there's a SIG for documentation which you can contact at What is a SIG? Special Interest Group Is it an

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 18 dec 12, 14:08:08, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2012 12:12:01 Brad Rogers wrote: True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for assuming everybody had the same same background as I. I didn't get that impression. But hey, it's not my rep that on the line,

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Tom H wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: What is a SIG? It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SIGs Sorry. Term predates Linus Torvalds let alone Fedora ;) IIRC I came across it as an engineering student

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Dec 2012 at 22:24:11 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: I have those preseeds on the kernel command line through a PXE network boot. vga=788 initrd=debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz console-keymaps-at/keymap=us locale=en_US interface=auto hostname=$name domain=$domain auto

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
[I couldn't sort the attributions out when snipping. Sorry.] On Mon 17 Dec 2012 at 22:24:11 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: I just double checked by running a text mode expert install - that screen never appears. Richard wrote this. I didn't understand what he was getting at first time round.

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: You are preseeding language and keymap from the command line so auto(?) or auto=true is not required because the first two questions concerned get answers immediately on booting. Correct. Which is why in my case it is a little hard to observe experimentally any

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: [I couldn't sort the attributions out when snipping. Sorry.] Things can get confusing! :-) Bob Proulx wrote: I just double checked by running a text mode expert install - that screen never appears. Richard wrote this. I didn't understand what he was getting at first

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:13:52 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: Here is what I focussed on when I started looking at the auto-install process: The auto parameter is an alias for auto-install/enable and setting it to true delays the locale and keyboard questions

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:13:52 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: I think auto is a typo. It should be auto=true. It is documented that auto is an alias for auto-install/enable=true priority=critical. I don't think it is a typo. I have had a change of mind after thinking about this

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: The preseed file needn't be on the network, Being present in an ISO and with url= pointing to it is sufficient. Or it could be on a USB stick. Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the file url syntax. But present in the iso then doesn't *need* the url= to point to it

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: I think auto is a typo. It should be auto=true. You are right! It is documented that auto is an alias for auto-install/enable=true priority=critical. I don't think it is a typo. I have had a change of mind after thinking about this and

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-17 Thread Brian
On Sat 15 Dec 2012 at 00:14:00 +, Brian wrote: Now cast your fishing net and *you* tell us what might be missing in your preseed file. For those with exactly the same preseeding setup as Richard and having a the same problem (which may or may not be a bug in Squeeze), a solution could lie

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: The response I had hoped for was on the lines of there's a SIG for documentation which you can contact at What is a SIG? If one does not exist I've some ideas, but I hate reinventing the wheel if it already exists. AFAIK (but did

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-17 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: The response I had hoped for was on the lines of there's a SIG for documentation which you can contact at What is a SIG? Special Interest Group Is it an Americanism? If one does not exist I've some ideas,

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Sorry. Because you were having problems with this I assumed you were using Wheezy. Because in Squeeze this works fine. If you are having a problem in Squeeze then we need to dig deeper. Because it definitely works fine there. Is that working fine

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-16 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 14 dec 12, 07:50:29, Richard Owlett wrote: If by raising the issue you mean do the proof-reading yourself and then report problems, by all means, just go ahead. Or, even better, you could submit patches. I see a bug report as treating an individual symptom rather

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 14 dec 12, 07:50:29, Richard Owlett wrote: If by raising the issue you mean do the proof-reading yourself and then report problems, by all means, just go ahead. Or, even better, you could submit patches. I see a bug report as treating an individual symptom rather than solving the

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-15 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Dec 2012 at 21:43:13 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select us In Wheezy they changed these to different strings. It caught me too. See

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 13 dec 12, 07:29:12, Richard Owlett wrote: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/example-preseed.txt [among several other examples] in part gives /begin quote # Keyboard selection. #d-i console-tools/archs select at d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us d-i

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Brian wrote: On Thu 13 Dec 2012 at 07:29:12 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: When I use it in my preseed.cfg I get an error message. ERROR MESSAGE TITLE --- Configuring keyboard-configuration ERROR MESSAGE TEXT --- Please select the layout matching the keyboard for this machine. I

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 14 dec 12, 05:39:56, Richard Owlett wrote: I think I see a common thread in the preseed related problems I've been having. Who proofreads the Debian documentation? I suspect it tends to be the author {as should happen} and other Debian *EXPERTS* {which is a too narrow

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Bob Proulx wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select us In Wheezy they changed these to different strings. It caught me too. See Bug#693493. In Wheezy instead of console-keymaps-at/keymap use keymap select us. d-i

Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 14 dec 12, 05:39:56, Richard Owlett wrote: I think I see a common thread in the preseed related problems I've been having. Who proofreads the Debian documentation? I suspect it tends to be the author {as should happen} and other Debian *EXPERTS* {which is a too

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Dec 2012 at 05:40:25 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Brian wrote: You fail to say which distribution you are using and which preseeding method is employed. See first line of my post. I saw it the first time. All it tells us is that you have read some Squeeze documentation. Another

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Dec 2012 at 22:15:44 +, Brian wrote: The configuring the keyboard question is not shown when I use auto=true priority=critical file=/mnt/preseed.cfg I regretted writing this response almost immediately after sending it. Not that it is incorrect but is it almost as content

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Richard Owlett wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select us In Wheezy they changed these to different strings. It caught me too. See Bug#693493. In Wheezy instead of console-keymaps-at/keymap use

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:50:29AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I see a bug report as treating an individual symptom rather than solving the underlying problem. So just leave it for someone else to suffer through as well? You could treat the underlying problem. as a different bug, and offer

Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-13 Thread Richard Owlett
http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/example-preseed.txt [among several other examples] in part gives /begin quote # Keyboard selection. #d-i console-tools/archs select at d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select us # Example for a different

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 13 dec 12, 07:29:12, Richard Owlett wrote: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/example-preseed.txt [among several other examples] in part gives /begin quote # Keyboard selection. #d-i console-tools/archs select at d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us d-i

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-13 Thread Brian
On Thu 13 Dec 2012 at 07:29:12 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: When I use it in my preseed.cfg I get an error message. ERROR MESSAGE TITLE --- Configuring keyboard-configuration ERROR MESSAGE TEXT --- Please select the layout matching the keyboard for this machine. I choose

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-13 Thread Bob Proulx
Richard Owlett wrote: d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select us In Wheezy they changed these to different strings. It caught me too. See Bug#693493. In Wheezy instead of console-keymaps-at/keymap use keymap select us. d-i keymap select us The