Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-03 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In gtfp8h$20...@ger.gmane.org, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Besides the discussion about how to preserve the installed packages state, I would also backup the file /var/cache/debconf/config.dat which helps to restore the configuration of the configurable installed packages. But I don't know how to

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,30.Apr.09, 20:59:40, J.M.Roth wrote: I have done more experiments and have come up with these notes for now. #BACKUP dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == install' packagesNG_installed aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' packagesNG_autoinstalled I'm curious, why not replace these two with

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20090501074519.gu10...@think.homelan, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu,30.Apr.09, 20:59:40, J.M.Roth wrote: dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == install' packagesNG_installed aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' packagesNG_autoinstalled I'm curious, why not replace these two with aptitude -F '%p'

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,01.May.09, 13:26:50, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Because we are talking about restoring the saved state, and which package satisfies an virtual | package-i-don't-like | package-i-like Depend/Recommend does matter, even if that package is marked automatically installed. I can't

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20090501183939.ga10...@think.homelan, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri,01.May.09, 13:26:50, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Because we are talking about restoring the saved state, and which package satisfies an virtual | package-i-don't-like | package-i-like Depend/Recommend does matter, even if

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,01.May.09, 13:49:12, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Even if you think you do care, you probably do. Either that, or you have a different goal. That's more likely. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Besides the discussion about how to preserve the installed packages state, I would also backup the file /var/cache/debconf/config.dat which helps to restore the configuration of the configurable installed packages. But I don't know how to do it automatically but I think its described in the man

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-30 Thread J . M . Roth
I have done more experiments and have come up with these notes for now. #BACKUP dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == install' packagesNG_installed aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' packagesNG_autoinstalled debconf-get-selections | grep -Ev '^[[:space:]]*(#|$)' packagesNG_debconf # RESTORE # make

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-26 Thread Owen Townend
2009/4/24 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net: On 2009-04-23_21:27:07, Daniel Burrows wrote: [snip]   The state is a flag indicating the package's current state.  It's written as an integer because I designed this code when I was young and foolish. :-)  The relevant values are: The hint

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:56:08PM -0600, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net was heard to say: Are you aware of the documentation package for aptitude? Yes. :-) Daniel (SCNR) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-24 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20090424055608.gb20...@big.lan.gnu, Paul E Condon wrote: In the aptitude-create-state-bundle description, they give a list of exactly what they (the documenters of the aptitude program no less) believe to be the sum total of what is needed to recreate a living apt system. This list is:

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-23 Thread J . M . Roth
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. bss at iguanasuicide.net writes: In loom.20090422T085218-105 at post.gmane.org, J.M.Roth wrote: Now... I've been playing a little bit with this. First, I get some warning: Unknown type error, skipping line using debconf-set-selections ... Hrm, that's somewhat

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-23 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:13:38AM +, J.M.Roth lists+debianu...@roth.lu was heard to say: Oh and I guess to make things really right one would have to use --get-selections '*' during the backup, or an additional dpkg --clear-selections before the restore. Just a thought.

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-23 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-23_21:27:07, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:13:38AM +, J.M.Roth lists+debianu...@roth.lu was heard to say: Oh and I guess to make things really right one would have to use --get-selections '*' during the backup, or an additional dpkg

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-22 Thread J . M . Roth
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. bss at iguanasuicide.net writes: I'd rather do aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' auto_installed_packages Your command does not work if the package state is e.g. 'i A' (note the space) Actually, it only works in that case. Of course, because of the search terms, all

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In loom.20090422t085218-...@post.gmane.org, J.M.Roth wrote: Now... I've been playing a little bit with this. First, I get some warning: Unknown type error, skipping line using debconf-set-selections ... Hrm, that's somewhat troubling. It won't affect which packages are installed, but it will

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-21 Thread J . M . Roth
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. bss at iguanasuicide.net writes: On Thursday 26 March 2009 22:09:28 Paul E Condon wrote: Your suggestion does raise in interesting issue: given a set of installed packages in a --get-selections file, and given that the dependency information is available in the

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In loom.20090421t153051-...@post.gmane.org, J.M.Roth wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. bss at iguanasuicide.net writes: aptitude search '~i~M' | awk '{print $3}' auto_installed_packages I'd rather do aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' auto_installed_packages Your command does not work if the package

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
Sorry for breaking the thread. I was having sendmail troubles yesterday due to an ISP switch. :( -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20090327195314.gt29...@swansys, green wrote: Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 09:26 -0600: Now, the discussion has moved to how to query the packaging system to get the most useful file of information. I'm still not sure what the query string should be. I think the most useful one is

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-28 Thread Owen Townend
2009/3/28 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net: I'm convinced that the suggestion is worthwhile, but I'm having difficulty following it. See below. On 2009-03-27_16:33:11, Owen Townend wrote: 2009/3/27 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net: On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 26 March 2009 22:09:28 Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 04:26:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: But I think I would like to have a record of what packages were actually installed. So I'm thinking of writing a script, to be

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,26.Mar.09, 19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I wouldn't put my backup info in /etc/apt. Most of what is in /etc/ (just like the rest of the file system) is managed by packages which are managed by apt. You may find that what you put in /etc/apt gets changed (I don't know, but I

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm convinced that the suggestion is worthwhile, but I'm having difficulty following it. See below. On 2009-03-27_16:33:11, Owen Townend wrote: 2009/3/27 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net: On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Many of those packages will have been

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-27_11:19:29, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu,26.Mar.09, 19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I wouldn't put my backup info in /etc/apt. Most of what is in /etc/ (just like the rest of the file system) is managed by packages which are managed by apt. You may find that what you put

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread green
Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 09:26 -0600: Now, the discussion has moved to how to query the packaging system to get the most useful file of information. I'm still not sure what the query string should be. Restoring the package set is not so simple as restoring the packages that are

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,27.Mar.09, 09:26:59, Paul E Condon wrote: I see you have a different search string than has been mentioned before. Is yours really what you use, or something typed from memory? The ones I have tried didn't seem to give correct results. It was from memory, and I was even right ;) Let

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-27_13:53:14, green wrote: Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 09:26 -0600: Now, the discussion has moved to how to query the packaging system to get the most useful file of information. I'm still not sure what the query string should be. Restoring the package set is not so

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread green
Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 16:35 -0600: On 2009-03-27_13:53:14, green wrote: I think I have minimally tested these commands, but it has been a while. It would be great if someone could try this out and add a wiki page for it. Well, I'm going to try it out, I can't promise a

Re: Question about get-selections - a little story

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-27_17:43:22, green wrote: Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 16:35 -0600: On 2009-03-27_13:53:14, green wrote: I think I have minimally tested these commands, but it has been a while. It would be great if someone could try this out and add a wiki page for it. ... want an

Re: Question about get-selections - a little story

2009-03-27 Thread green
Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 18:14 -0600: Recently I agreed to acquire a backtrace using gdb on gnome-terminal. I had reported it crashing under a certain situation. I'm not skilled at debugging, but gnome-terminal is important to me, so I agreed. The work did not go well. Things went

Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm setting up a nightly backup system for my computer. Of course, I want to backup /home/pec and /etc . but I don't think there is any point in backing up all the wonderful Debian packages that are stored in /var . I reason that if something were to cause damage to the package collection in /var

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 04:26:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: But I think I would like to have a record of what packages were actually installed. So I'm thinking of writing a script, to be run nightly, that puts a fresh copy of my selections in /etc/apt, e.g. # dpkg --get-selections

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 04:26:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: But I think I would like to have a record of what packages were actually installed. So I'm thinking of writing a script, to be run nightly, that puts a fresh copy of my

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Owen Townend
2009/3/27 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net: On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Many of those packages will have been installed automatically by your package manager.  If you use aptitude, you only need to record the packages which you manually installed: aptitude search