Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 12 May 2014 16:48:20 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-05-12, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Maybe he's got one of the greens that gets old fast (once very 8 seconds) if steps aren't taken. I have a WD green disk (3GB, IIRC) in my backup server. Could

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/13/14, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 16:56 +, Curt wrote: On 2014-05-12, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: This is actually pretty important because all my backup data is stored there.

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 06:43:16PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I have a 500GB Western Digital hard drive that I bought in 2012 but it has never been unpacked and has been sitting on the shelf all this time. How long can it be considered 'new'? Is it safe to use? So, what could go

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:43:16 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: I have a 500GB Western Digital hard drive that I bought in 2012 but it has never been unpacked and has been sitting on the shelf all this time. How

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 12 May 2014 15:10:56 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-05-12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:43:16 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: I have a 500GB Western Digital hard drive that I bought in 2012 but it has never

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 15:10 +, Curt wrote: On 2014-05-12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:43:16 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: I have a 500GB Western Digital hard drive that I bought in 2012 but it has never been unpacked and

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/05/14 02:30, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 15:10:56 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-05-12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:43:16 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: I have a 500GB Western Digital hard drive that

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-12, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Maybe he's got one of the greens that gets old fast (once very 8 seconds) if steps aren't taken. I have a WD green disk (3GB, IIRC) in my backup server. Could you please elaborate on the steps, and in what ways it gets old quickly?

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: I fed a mouse to an intertube seer... could this be what Curt refers too? http://www.ngohq.com/news/19805-critical-design-flaw-found-in-wd-caviar-green-hdds.html I don't know about eight seconds as a

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 15:10 +, Curt wrote: On 2014-05-12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:43:16 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: I have a 500GB Western Digital hard drive that I bought in 2012 but it has never

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 12:30 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 15:10:56 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-05-12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:43:16 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: I have a 500GB Western

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 18:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 12:30 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 15:10:56 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-05-12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:43:16 +0200, Hugo

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-12, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: This is actually pretty important because all my backup data is stored there. I fed a mouse to an intertube seer... could this be what Curt refers too?

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 15:10 +, Curt wrote: On 2014-05-12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:43:16 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: I have a 500GB Western Digital hard drive that I bought in

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 16:56 +, Curt wrote: On 2014-05-12, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: This is actually pretty important because all my backup data is stored there. I fed a mouse to an intertube seer... could this be what Curt refers too?

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 11:50 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: It is not a green drive. That's good. Anyway, a fabrication defect could happen for a new drive and an old drive. Electrostatics or aging of the materials unlikely is an issue. Assumed the shelf was in an unheated room somewhere in

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread E
On 5/11/2014 4:43 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I have a 500GB Western Digital hard drive that I bought in 2012 but it has never been unpacked and has been sitting on the shelf all this time. How long can it be considered 'new'? Is it safe to use? Hugo Hello, May be a bit

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:43:16 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: I have a 500GB Western Digital hard drive that I bought in 2012 but it has never been unpacked and has been sitting on the shelf all this time. How long can it be considered 'new'? Is it safe to use? 2 Years in